In my opinion, it’s condi thief vs condi necro
Most people would think the necro would have a chance, but no, it’s completely hopeless for them.
Thief stacks conditions, necro uses dagger #4, transfers them to the thief, thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
Sneak attack is like quickness, 5 rapid fire attacks, and it’s spamable
Necro uses staff #4, transfers the conditions to the thief, thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
Necro heals using consume conditions, thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
Necro drops a well that converts conditions to boons, thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
Necro uses deathshroud, (which is completely worthless to condition necros, and just shows how desperate the necro is, but as necros have no escape mechanisms, it’s all they can do) thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
Thief downs necro, stomps him in stealth, and then hops around in mocking celebration while knowing full well that there is absolutely nothing a necro can do against a well played condi thief
I feel like condi bomb fear necro would simply destroy the thief in almost every situation as the P/D would have no stealth chance and the cleanse only clears a single condition every three seconds, assuming the thief is shadow arts.
Otherwise, the thief has next to no condition removal and has the least removal in the game.
The necro has the upper hand due to the transfers and mass application which a thief cannot cleanse off fast enough. You’re assuming the necro is playing passively trying to counter a condition build through solely returning conditions. That’s just not how you can deal with any condition build.
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Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!
The most lopsided 1v1 is condi Necro vs any build Engi!
Wahoo! Bye frands!
I never die to P/D thieves on my necro unless I make too many mistakes. P/D thieves HAVE to get close to you, otherwise their entire build is shut down. Necromancers have a thing called marks, which you can sit on.
I’d say rifle warrior vs anything is lopsided against the warrior.
I would say an expert warrior with max damage capabilities vs a completely horrible player with nothing equipped.
Only bad condition Necros lose to p/d Thieves. Most lopsided 1 on 1 would probably be PU Mesmer vs Warrior (unless the Warrior decides to just run) or any Thief offhand-dagger build vs Ranger. Also Diamondskin Eles hard counter any pure condition setup.
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Conditrap Ranger vs. Power Engineer.
Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!
The most lopsided 1v1 is condi Necro vs any build Engi!
Wahoo! Bye frands!
Esp cond eng Vs. cond Necro.
Any profession/build VS. me.
Yup, the most one sided 1v1 ever!! and it’s not in my favor either :P
yep its near impossible for a engi to beat a condi necro assuming they are both at a respectable skill level
Conditrap Ranger vs. Power Engineer.
that’s a 50/50 ive fought some good trap rangers before using a few power engineer builds and its never lopsided.
Guard without scepter vs chillranger is almost an autoloss for the guardian as well.
But the game is not build or balanced around 1vs1, so who cares
condi necro vs condi thief
condi necro should use all its condition xfers to overload the thief and force early disengage. (dagger 4, staff 4, plauge sig)
once the thief runs out of cd’s and is feared out of shadows refuge its gg.
Most lopsided 1v1 is Condi necro vs bad player with no condi removal (condi necro wins) OR condi necro vs good stun lock warrior with -% condi duration runes/food with decent condi removal ( warrior wins)
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Necro uses deathshroud, (which is completely worthless to condition necros, and just shows how desperate the necro is, but as necros have no escape mechanisms, it’s all they can do) thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
While the rest of your post shows, that the necro you portrait just plays very poorly, the quoted part is just plain out wrong. On my condition necro I almost change into deathshroud on cool down, because it is one of the most amazing strongest tolls condition necros have.
Diamond Skin ele vs. condition necro. Even with a Carrion amulet, the necro can’t out-damage the ele’s self-healing without conditions, so he can never get the ele below the health threshold for long enough to get any traction.
After that, probably condition necro vs. condition anyone else. Condition builds on other professions tend to have very poor cleansing abilities, so the necro transfers are extremely potent. Then again, necros were designed to be the hardest class to beat with conditions, so this shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.
Ehmmmmmmmm:
1. a thief can not full heal in stealth. The trait heals only something over 300 per second. Ah now i understand what you mean! 1000 health is full for a thief! Well noticed! And as you can see every (!) 30 secs a thief can cleanse 3 damaging dots. Necros also have a heal. But theefs heal is toooo goooood….i know
2. sneak attack is not a reward. Deal with bleeds. We can not stack more than two condis with this weaponset (d #4 is totally useless). I dont think it is tooo hard to cleanse them. Sneak attack is maybe spammable, but….
…..you have to go to stealth with cloak n dagger —→ simply dodge or run into the thief, so he can not hit you.
…..he have to sit for 3-4 sec in stealth to regain 1000 (!) hp. This time your skillcounter will go down.
…..5 bleeds for 3,5 – 4,5 second preperation lasting only 5 secs are not soooo powerfull
Greetings juston
Necro uses deathshroud, (which is completely worthless to condition necros, and just shows how desperate the necro is, but as necros have no escape mechanisms, it’s all they can do) thief goes stealth, removes all conditions, heals to full, and for a reward, sneak attacks, reapplying all of his conditions.
While the rest of your post shows, that the necro you portrait just plays very poorly, the quoted part is just plain out wrong. On my condition necro I almost change into deathshroud on cool down, because it is one of the most amazing strongest tolls condition necros have.
Hey, just adding to this, unless a thief goes Shadow refuge, he is only going to lose 2 conditions from stealthing, a p/d thief isnt going to be spamming blackpowder hs combos, so he has cloack and dagger, last reffuge maybe, blinding powder, and instictuall response, all of which are giving him either 3 econds, or 4 seconds of …or maybe its 4 or 5 seconds depending how far hes traited into SA. So he is only losing 1 or 2 condtions, UNLESS he goes SR, which is so easy for a necro to fear him out of.. its actually rediculous that you didnt mention that. also, when a thief uses sneak attack, he only puts 5 stacks of bleed on you, he doesnt actually reapply every one of his conditions.
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