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Posted by: Domzz.1260

Domzz.1260

I’m lookin for the class which is more versatile and needed throughout all aspects of the game.

In terms of niches, I’d like to excel in:
tPvP / sPvP
Dungeon Speed Clears
Farming
WvW Roaming
WvW Commanding / Zerging
EVERYTHING ELSE!

In that order of importance!

I find I enjoy playing a survivable class which is able to control and dish out insane damage. I also like being able to give back to the group, build diversity, role diversity, and highest potential ceiling (assuming all skill barriers are surpassed).

What’s your opinion in this meta! Thanks!

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

tPvP

Mesmer is non-viable. Ele is pretty solid.

Dungeon Speed Clears

Ele is absolutely necessary for FGS and other utility. Mesmer is strong, but used less.

Farming

Why would you want to do this? Regardless, ele is great with long range aoe, mesmer is extremely weak.

WvW Roaming

Ele can roam ok, but mesmer is really fantastic at roaming.

WvW Commanding

You probably shouldn’t command on either, but mesmer is a slightly better choice.

Zerging

Ele is essential in large groups for high long range aoe and water fields. Mesmer is grudgingly brought in large groups so that they can use a single utility skill and then spam 1 a few times.

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Posted by: Domzz.1260

Domzz.1260

tPvP

Mesmer is non-viable. Ele is pretty solid.

Dungeon Speed Clears

Ele is absolutely necessary for FGS and other utility. Mesmer is strong, but used less.

Farming

Why would you want to do this? Regardless, ele is great with long range aoe, mesmer is extremely weak.

WvW Roaming

Ele can roam ok, but mesmer is really fantastic at roaming.

WvW Commanding

You probably shouldn’t command on either, but mesmer is a slightly better choice.

Zerging

Ele is essential in large groups for high long range aoe and water fields. Mesmer is grudgingly brought in large groups so that they can use a single utility skill and then spam 1 a few times.

Thanks a bunch! This was perfect!

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Posted by: Jackums.3496

Jackums.3496

Ele > Mesmer in every aspect listed aside from WvW roaming.

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Posted by: Rudy.6184

Rudy.6184

Ele > Mesmer in every aspect listed aside from WvW roaming.

Got both, mesmer makes camp so slowly… imo ele is as good or even better at roaming.

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Posted by: maha.7902

maha.7902

mesmers are a trash tier class in every format, make an ele

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Posted by: Domzz.1260

Domzz.1260

How about Necromancer in all of these points compared to Elementalist?

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Posted by: Jackums.3496

Jackums.3496

How about Necromancer in all of these points compared to Elementalist?

Ele > Necro in every category, though the Necro is still at least viable for all listed game types, but if you want to roam you’ll need a group because you’ll be a free kill solo.

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Posted by: Domzz.1260

Domzz.1260

How about Necromancer in all of these points compared to Elementalist?

Ele > Necro in every category, though the Necro is still at least viable for all listed game types, but if you want to roam you’ll need a group because you’ll be a free kill solo.

Even for commanding?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

How about Necromancer in all of these points compared to Elementalist?

Ele > Necro in every category, though the Necro is still at least viable for all listed game types, but if you want to roam you’ll need a group because you’ll be a free kill solo.

Even for commanding?

Eh, both classes are very poor commanders.

As far as large group fights go, both ele and necro are standard and very important parts of a group composition. I wouldn’t put one above the other. Ele is better for everything else though.

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

it actually depends on how much fun u have, although mesmer can be most frustrating, staff 2, sword 3, blink can get u stuck in places

pathing of sword 3 doesnt work properly

there is a lot more ofc, but i highly recommend u trying out ele or necro, they r both fun and not as frustrating mostly

just my ytb channel

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Posted by: Domzz.1260

Domzz.1260

it actually depends on how much fun u have, although mesmer can be most frustrating, staff 2, sword 3, blink can get u stuck in places

pathing of sword 3 doesnt work properly

there is a lot more ofc, but i highly recommend u trying out ele or necro, they r both fun and not as frustrating mostly

I’ve tried both out.

While I absolutely love the dominant controlling aggressor feel of the necromancer, particularly in PvP (I’m really freaking good at it…), it completely falls apart and disappoints me in terms of mobility, PvE, and surprisingly.. sustain.

Ele I’m pretty new too, seems hard to be good at in PvP but in PvE I like the burst and the versatility, I’m only worried that they might be extensively squishy at end game.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

ele. mes is a dying class unless u wanna push 1 button every now and then when someone needs a veil,portal or timewarp, u got nothing to contribute in a zerg at all. plus im sure anet will find something else they can nerf.

although roaming can still sorta be fun on mes, in every other aspect of the game mes is lacking as we dont have enough aoe …or hardly any aoe. mes is a bugged overnerfed pet class atm with no role that cant be easily done by any other class, but it used to be fun.
in wvw(which is the game mode i mainly play, mes lack out of combat speed, cc option, los issues are unbarable, clones die the moment they spawn, our maind dmg dealers(phantasms) are either bugged or die in seconds and can also be affected by cc(=byebye aoe =byebye dmg), apart from our broken ai, most of our weapons are 1v1 single target and require a target(very bad vs thieves), u wont get loot or very little where all of GWEN has to get merchant in order to free space u will not even be half full) and if u dont play pu u melt in seconds.
so maybe in 4 years mes is back to glory so dont delete your mesmers yet…2018 esport complete domination by mesmers ……or maybe not…. -_-

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Posted by: Frenk.5917

Frenk.5917

I’m lookin for the class which is more versatile and needed throughout all aspects of the game.

In terms of niches, I’d like to excel in:
tPvP / sPvP

-snip-

Before listening to all the “Ele > Mesmer” crowd (with which I agree, btw) you should really consider the fact that SPVP balance will probably change. If you asked the same question some months ago, for example, Mesmer would have been the answer. Now it is Elementalist, but the point is that things changes.

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Posted by: Michaeas Magister.1589

Michaeas Magister.1589

I’m lookin for the class which is more versatile and needed throughout all aspects of the game.

In terms of niches, I’d like to excel in:
tPvP / sPvP

-snip-

Before listening to all the “Ele > Mesmer” crowd (with which I agree, btw) you should really consider the fact that SPVP balance will probably change. If you asked the same question some months ago, for example, Mesmer would have been the answer. Now it is Elementalist, but the point is that things changes.

QFT. I think this is the best answer to this question.

Thanks.

It’s as I have always said,
“You can get more results with a kind word and a big stick,
than you can with merely a kind word.”

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Posted by: Mystiq Angelic.8193

Mystiq Angelic.8193

I’m lookin for the class which is more versatile and needed throughout all aspects of the game.

In terms of niches, I’d like to excel in:
tPvP / sPvP

-snip-

Before listening to all the “Ele > Mesmer” crowd (with which I agree, btw) you should really consider the fact that SPVP balance will probably change. If you asked the same question some months ago, for example, Mesmer would have been the answer. Now it is Elementalist, but the point is that things changes.

Things changed all the time, I agree, but they were mostly for the worst for the Mesmer. It’s nothing but a downhill for the Mesmer class since the release of GW2 dated back in Aug, 25th, 2012. One would be very naive to believe that Mesmer will see any meaningful changes for the better. Players have been anxiously waited and waited and waited and waited and waited again from the last TWO years and look at the current state of the Mes today July, 14, 2014. I read all EIGHT profession forum everyday, no other class forum is as messed up as Mesmer now.

Roll the Ele, if you want to restrict the choice down to just these two. Otherwise, my asnwer would be different. Just stay the hell away from Mesmer to avoid yourself a kittenload of frustration.

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

Ele.

Mesmers get the nerf stick every patch, and have a ton of borked skills.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

I’m lookin for the class which is more versatile and needed throughout all aspects of the game.

In terms of niches, I’d like to excel in:
tPvP / sPvP

-snip-

Before listening to all the “Ele > Mesmer” crowd (with which I agree, btw) you should really consider the fact that SPVP balance will probably change. If you asked the same question some months ago, for example, Mesmer would have been the answer. Now it is Elementalist, but the point is that things changes.

Things changed all the time, I agree, but they were mostly for the worst for the Mesmer. It’s nothing but a downhill for the Mesmer class since the release of GW2 dated back in Aug, 25th, 2012. One would be very naive to believe that Mesmer will see any meaningful changes for the better. Players have been anxiously waited and waited and waited and waited and waited again from the last TWO years and look at the current state of the Mes today July, 14, 2014. I read all EIGHT profession forum everyday, no other class forum is as messed up as Mesmer now.

Roll the Ele, if you want to restrict the choice down to just these two. Otherwise, my asnwer would be different. Just stay the hell away from Mesmer to avoid yourself a kittenload of frustration.

yep, and on top of that most of our strongest supporters and helpers have quit the class, cause of lack of attention and countless nerfs that seemnever ending. most of us have shelved their mesmers while rerolling another class. i mean who wnats to be a veilbot ever? or deal with all the bugs? and then before ebven 1 single bug gets fixed we get a so called fix to ileap that is actually a nerf..so yeah mesmers are fed up and people are leaving this class in mass!
our forum used to be awesome cause all of us would brainstom and work together on builds and tips and ideas and suggestions…well thats past now

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