[Necro] How does one deal with an Ele now?

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

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Hey all, so i’ve been playing a new build Condi necro and for three or so games now I getting put up against this certain Ele build that can pump half their HP up and carries a full boon stack.

I was told by an Ele that this was basically an abuse of Battle+Strength to stack intense might while boon blocking it with other things. I of course spammed my purge as fast as possible whilewaiting for the heavy stacks to come it, but I could not shut down this Ele. eventually, it took 3 of us and I went on pin down duty to supress the ele as much as possible with CC but I was watching this Ele easily take 2v1 across several games.

Now i’m not complaining I just need a strat to fight these, i’ve tried controlling them for Allies and keeping them boonstripped with PoC and Corrupt

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Posted by: oZii.2864

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Run a focus off hand to strip, and chill of death trait. I don’t know the strip priorities I know thief steal grabs stability always.

The ele really is covering it with fury and swiftness and protection he shouldn’t be going into water often unless he needs the heal or maybe condi cleanse.

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

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Yeah, i’m running Shill I think ill swap to focus as well it seems like we’re in a very boon heavy meta with Guard, Engi, War and Ele boon humping constantly, thank you for the tips.

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

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Againts eles as a necro:

Corrupt boon = almost instant death.
CHILL CHILL CHILL! Chill is super-strong against eles. Use it the second they leave water attunement and gg.
Boon-strip/removal. The new 6-point trait in Curses is REALLY strong against them.
Immobilize will kill an ele if they can’t cure it or use an invuln fast enough.

Eles are also very susceptible to burst. Power necros can REALLY hurt if they can land a few hits.

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Posted by: Uhtameit.2413

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If he uses Ether Renewal, interrupt it.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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Unlike thief, necro has ALL skills set to prioritize stability LAST. Yea its annoying, stabilty could be #5th so only CB would wipe it but other weak boon strips not, u thats another story.

I find the new curses GM trait, 2 boon corrupt on ds#2 amazing. It is totaly worth over dumbfire and the 15% DS recharge trait. As others sad, chill them as much as possible, it messes with their rotations and wait for a 5+ bleeds stack + fear (+corrupt if stabilty and only 5 total boons)

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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fear fear fear fear off the map/wall/tower/hill he goes.

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Posted by: Jayce.5632

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You shouldn’t have too much of a problem with eles unless they are running a blind passive/spam build. Stripping/Converting boons literally mean the difference between a battle win or loss. Knowing when to convert those boons is not always an easy task. 21+ stacks of might has to be removed no matter when you see it during the fight. For all others, you have to kind of play it by ear depending on what the ele is doing.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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Equip Path of Corruption, Chill of Death. These will eat might stacking ele’s damage and potential in seconds, paired with condi coverage, they should not escape

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

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I run power necro and am doing just fine against all kinds so far (support, power, condi). I can reapply so many conditions so quickly they for some reason think that’s where my damage comes from and are often confused on how to kill me aside from spamming healing skills. Support ele I cc them a lot, condi ele I let them stack conditions and then send them back at the time I feel best, power ele for w/e reason button smashes and moments later die. It could just be the new mega server thing and I’m just finding a lot of bad players but so far its been ok.

If you’re condi necro then I’m afraid I can’t be of help as I do not run nor have I ever ran one.

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

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The focus has really been helping in all situations, I came across one Ele and did strip the entire rack successfully Corrupt into focus into shroud fear+ dark path but they did come back rather fast and I was still on cooldown XD Either way, I was also having positioning issues which I am remedying.

All in all it’s improved a tad =D The new shift in meta is taking some getting used too.

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Posted by: oZii.2864

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I run power necro and am doing just fine against all kinds so far (support, power, condi). I can reapply so many conditions so quickly they for some reason think that’s where my damage comes from and are often confused on how to kill me aside from spamming healing skills. Support ele I cc them a lot, condi ele I let them stack conditions and then send them back at the time I feel best, power ele for w/e reason button smashes and moments later die. It could just be the new mega server thing and I’m just finding a lot of bad players but so far its been ok.

If you’re condi necro then I’m afraid I can’t be of help as I do not run nor have I ever ran one.

I feel like depending on how things shake out a power necro with focus and chill of death trait could really give might stacking eles trouble. You would do alot of damage to them just because they have boons always.

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

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Chill, the elementalists biggest weakness. Forget removing boons or CC. Chill.

Our skills already have high cooldowns so we rely on swapping attunements for the next damaging attack/defensive skill.

Since chill slows attunement, being stuck in air magic for 8 more seconds is asking to die.

I’ve played a lot of PvP on my D/D Charr elementalist, I can safely say we are incredibly overpowered. As a necromancer, you must have chill on you now if you get into a match with a skilled Elementalist.
Otherwise you’re never going to beat him/her and the ele is going to roam everywhere and stomp anyone.

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Posted by: Swim.6830

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Mesmer and Necros stack tons of conditions and remove boons left and right – no one bats an eye.

Ele gets 25 might stacks and everyone loses their minds…

Mind you, with the current rune setup, almost any class can do the 25 might stack and be more effective than Ele, especially vs a Necro.

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Posted by: Dragzter.3810

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You ask how one deals with an Ele?
You cant.
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Posted by: Kyon.9735

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Necros shouldn’t really have any problems with eles as they’re still the same pre-patch in terms of survivability and condi cleanses. Just spam your conditions as soon as they leave Water Attunement and get ready to interrupt Ether Renewal.

I have yet to try dueling a necro using Blinding Ashes though. I’m not sure if it’ll work since going 6 max into fire means less points for Water and Arcana.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

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Mesmer and Necros stack tons of conditions and remove boons left and right – no one bats an eye.

Ele gets 25 might stacks and everyone loses their minds…

Mind you, with the current rune setup, almost any class can do the 25 might stack and be more effective than Ele, especially vs a Necro.

Since when has a mesmer ever removed a ton of conditions?

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Posted by: P Fun Daddy.1208

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Mesmer and Necros stack tons of conditions and remove boons left and right – no one bats an eye.

Ele gets 25 might stacks and everyone loses their minds…

Mind you, with the current rune setup, almost any class can do the 25 might stack and be more effective than Ele, especially vs a Necro.

Since when has a mesmer ever removed a ton of conditions?

Lol. He didn’t say they removed a ton, he said they stacked a ton. Learn to read n00b.

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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

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Corrupt Boon will be you friend here.

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Posted by: Ugruk.4069

Ugruk.4069

Maybe use you head? You shouldn’t lose to an ele tbh.

Protip: Chill kills