Guild Wars 2

I’d like to hear feedback about a potential new buff:
Robust: Reduces condition damage by 33%.

There have been changes to allow easier access to condition removal for some classes. I think this could be a nice alternative.

Conditions already deal lower DPS than power and can have some of their damage negated after the attack, and you want to add a new boon that drops them even more?

As a necro, I say “bring it on”. For anyone who can’t corrupt boons (which is everyone else), I say “no.”

This boon isn’t about dropping condition damage as it could replace instances of condition removal or immunity.

Only when all the cool damage buff bonuses from traits, runes etc will be changed to work with condition damage too.

Kanenas.4906:

Only when all the cool damage buff bonuses from traits, runes etc will be changed to work with condition damage too.

And even without that, the current meta is condition. Go figure.

I like the idea.

Problem is, who gets it?

Cygnus.6903:

Kanenas.4906:

Only when all the cool damage buff bonuses from traits, runes etc will be changed to work with condition damage too.

And even without that, the current meta is condition.

Current meta is CC spam at the upper levels. Not condition.

Yes, condition builds are a part of the meta. They always have been. But they are not what currently defines the meta. One person per team is a condition build while up to 3 are heavy CC. So, which is the “meta?”

People keep calling it the “condition meta” because they don’t like fighting condition builds. Tip for you: treat them exactly like power builds, you just have another option if you screw up defensively.

If eles and mesmers get it, I’ll be happy.

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

Mbelch.9028:

If eles and mesmers get it, I’ll be happy.

You mean this eles, that get completely imune to Conditions with diamond skin and a little bit of heal? Why would they need this?

unleashed.8679:

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

Mbelch.9028:

If eles and mesmers get it, I’ll be happy.

You mean this eles, that get completely imune to Conditions with diamond skin and a little bit of heal? Why would they need this?

Probably because Ele’s melt terribly to just the slightest condition pressure unless entirely built for it in which point they aren’t going to kill you?

Where do people get the idea that diamond skin is actually worth anything and that eles are some kind of God against conditions or even actually in a good place at all?

Ill agree that better condi defence needs to be implemented, but a boon isnt the way to go. We need less ways to remove it and more ways to block it in the first place.

Silhouette.5631:

Ill agree that better condi defence needs to be implemented, but a boon isnt the way to go. We need less ways to remove it and more ways to block it in the first place.

What do you mean? You can block, dodge almost every condition attack as is.

unleashed.8679:

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

This. You let me start making it so 8 stacks of bleed deals 2K damage per tick, and THEN we can start giving damage reductions, mkay?

RyuDragnier.9476:

unleashed.8679:

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

This. You let me start making it so 8 stacks of bleed deals 2K damage per tick, and THEN we can start giving damage reductions, mkay?

Only if toughness/armor affects it as well. You either get 10-20% damage increase or armor bypass. Not both.

Ryld.1340:

RyuDragnier.9476:

unleashed.8679:

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

This. You let me start making it so 8 stacks of bleed deals 2K damage per tick, and THEN we can start giving damage reductions, mkay?

Only if toughness/armor affects it as well. You either get 10-20% damage increase or armor bypass. Not both.

Anet already broke the give and take with thief. There is no “You either get burst damage or stealth, there is no both”. You can have both.

unleashed.8679:

Only if every other damage multiplier will effect condition damage as well.

Mbelch.9028:

If eles and mesmers get it, I’ll be happy.

You mean this eles, that get completely imune to Conditions with diamond skin and a little bit of heal? Why would they need this?

Oh you’re funny. You must not play much. Or you’re terrible.

Diamond skin is terrible. Has no place in the game.

From a guardians standpoint, the issue with conditions isn’t that it bypasses armor and destroys people with low hp(Although that is what makes it my achillies heel). Its the fact that it trumps boons. Swift? Cripple, chill, immobilize. Regen? Poison. Stability? Who cares conditions doesn’t use knockdowns. Protections? Hah no direct damage. Fury? Might? Weakness. And then the fact that while alone these are all DoT, togeather they create a burst effect (necros). …So you can really do anything with conditions but heal yourself