Guild Wars 2

i was thinking the other day how handy it would be to proc magnetic fields threw combo finishers to fight kitten that uses hard hitting long range classes or classes in general that use range very effectively (longbow,lich,nades you get the idea).

so i present my idear for it plus a list of potential skills that could have an added earth field.

Blast Finisher: Area protection 3 seconds.
Leap Finisher: Self magnetic aura 3 seconds.
Projectile Finisher: Cripple shot 1 second.
Whirl Finisher: Cripple whirl 1 sec each.

Ranger and ele seem like the only options to put an earth field on.

Muddy Terrain, its a no brainer really, gives a good option to a utility i dont see used that much, and in the right build would combo great with certain weapon sets.

Ele, Ring of earth, its all in the name bros

i sure there are other options around to throw another field onto, but i think its a good idear to add in

This is actually a really good idea. Add me to the list of supporters for this feature

Despite being a cool idea, the thought of Elementalists getting even more combo fields make me die a little inside.

If you put it on CHURNING earth, not Ring of Earth, for God’s sake, I think that would be quite interesting!

i support this.

more combo fields is good.

I’m sorry but melee classes don’t need to be even stronger. Currently the strongest classes in this game are Warriors, Guardians, and elementalists. Except staff eles, all melee classes. Making them stronger is kind of against the idea of balance I keep hearing everyone talk complain about. Kiting is very difficult already, making it less effective probably isn’t a good idea.

I can think of Ranger’s muddy terrain as a earth field

I would make the Blast Finisher; Blind/Prot.

Chaith.8256:

If you put it on CHURNING earth, not Ring of Earth, for God’s sake, I think that would be quite interesting!

Bhawb.7408:

Despite being a cool idea, the thought of Elementalists getting even more combo fields make me die a little inside.

spit balling ideas for it and didn’t want to only include ranger, and im sure we don’t want another class that is the only one that has access to the only field of a certain type (lighting field)

I’d say that not Earth, but Nature Field. But I certainly like the idea, because I suggested exact same thing two months ago

Although the cripple could be 1.5 sec and Magnetic Aura for 3 seconds is a little bit overpowered, I’d reduce it to 2 seconds or replace with vigor.

That’s said, which skills should get this field?

Elementalist:

-Unsteady Ground

Ranger:

-Muddy Terrain
-Quicksand

Not to mention that with this new, nearly exclusive on-demand long duration low cd combo field, Ranger would be certainly welcome in WvWvW setup

I’d make churning earth a field+finisher skill (just like black powder for thief), so that it creates an earth field (with a short duration) and blast it at the same time.

That skill needs some love.

If it would be “Earth” field, i would propose adding a 2 sec earth field to the Thumper Turret Overcharge as well.

Edit: Though that would be an instant blast finisher in its own field… quite OP come to think of it.

Wouldn’t be useful in pve and it’ll add another field to watch for when stacking might in pugs. Overall, meh, don’t really like the idea.

oxtred.7658:

Wouldn’t be useful in pve and it’ll add another field to watch for when stacking might in pugs. Overall, meh, don’t really like the idea.

Guess what, easy meta in PvE may change. Rarely anyone would use it in PvE too, even bearbows do not (they like signets, not MT). Adding group projectile reflection/vigor/protection is always a good thing and would be MAJOR in WvWvW ranger role with extra flavour to couple other professions.

We need that. I want more Cripple.

It’d also hurt ele ability to take advantage of their fields, with the risk or overwriting a fire/water field by an earth field for instance. Group projectile reflection would be op imo. Rangers already got quite a few improvements so let’s see how this packs out. I don’t think adding new fields is the way to buff rangers, maybe give them more blasts via traits if you want them to be a field user class.

You know that this field would be most likely very rare outside of Ranger’s MT ? Nothing would overwrite your precious fire and water combo fields.

For group reflection – that’s why I suggest shorter duration or vigor. Both would be very interesting to play with.

And not only blasts are combo finishers, mind you.

teams stacking blast finishers for like 20 seconds of protection? no ty

Like perma protection is totally not normal in current game…

Tbh, I mostly care for Projectile proccing cripple. The rest can change.

id imagine an earth field youl make somewhat immobilization
like area immobilize after blast finisher for 1 or 2 seconds?!?

sure pretty much all earth related skills do already do something like knockdown or immobilize but.. it just fits well xD

I’m not talking about ""my precious fields", i’m just saying that in a zerg situation protection uptime is already high enough, aoe reflects would hurt ranged specs ( ranger even) even more, and vigor stacking isn’t really Anet’s cup of tea, see the nerfs to vigor on crit traits. In solo, rangers won’t benefit from it since you need blast finishers/leaps/ any kind of finisher.

oxtred.7658:

In solo, rangers won’t benefit from it since you need blast finishers/leaps/ any kind of finisher.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ranger_skills take a look there.

There are a few leaps, a blast, a whirl, and (most pointless) projectile finishers, also pets have finishers as well not many are F2 skills so it does require some addition effort on the part of the player to attempt to make use of the pets ’finishers.

Blast Finisher: Area protection 3 seconds.
Leap Finisher: Self magnetic aura 3 seconds.
Projectile Finisher: Cripple shot 1 second.
Whirl Finisher: Cripple whirl 1 sec each.

So, warhorn 5 gives 3 sec protection, gs 3 gives a magnetic aura. Still not much. I know the ranger skills, i’ve all classes to 80, but apart from the cripple shot, everything is group oriented, since 3 sec of protection is too much, if it ever comes, you’ll need at least a few blasts to have the full effect. It’s not like you could use muddy terrain+ Warhorn 5 to counter a burst, both cast times are too long for a quick protection counter. The magnetic aura is interesting by design, but i don’t feel like it would fit in actual gameplay. More ways to gain auras or boons are a good idea to up ranger, but first it doesn’t really need a buff in solo setting, and doing so by blast finishers and combo fields is unecessary. If anet ever put a earth field, i’ll use it just as i use the others, but that’s not something i’m looking forward.

There is still some hope for this game after all… Do it Anet!

I was a bit surprised they never implemented an earth field… I mean, just look at ele attunements. You’ve got fire, water, air (lightning), but poor old earth got the shaft.

Maybe they figured it was sort of covered by the poison fields? Weakness is associated with earth-based skills, although poison never has been.

In your suggestions, I’d probably change the cripple durations to 2 seconds, and maybe reduce the AoE protection to 2 seconds.

In any case, we probably have just as many chances as seeing an earth field as we doing seeing a new race implemented, but it’s still a good idea.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Please no more Protection for Elementalists and Rangers! All Rangers do is press 1 and then go into a perpetual state of evasion and protection! Elementalists are so goshdarn tanky and they have a lot of protection uptime already! Vee Wee likes the idea of earth fields! But plz no more protection!

Earth fields could do area bleeds when blasted! 2 bleeds per target per blast! 5 targets max! Bleed damage would be based on the person who blasted!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ArrDee.2573:

All Rangers do is press 1 and then go into a perpetual state of evasion and protection!

Stop spreading such propaganda. It’s well known that they also push 2 and 3 with about 25% of the frequency that they push 1… there’s also the occasional 4, and even a 5 now and again if they’re feeling frisky.

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Please no more Protection for Elementalists and Rangers! All Rangers do is press 1 and then go into a perpetual state of evasion and protection! Elementalists are so goshdarn tanky and they have a lot of protection uptime already! Vee Wee likes the idea of earth fields! But plz no more protection!

Earth fields could do area bleeds when blasted! 2 bleeds per target per blast! 5 targets max! Bleed damage would be based on the person who blasted!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

And now tell me how Spirit Ranger with shortbow (lol, does anyone even play it anymore?) would be able to constantly deliver Blast Finishers into amazing duration and radius of quicksand ? You’re biased and speak about generalize Ranger into that laughable spec.

Every profession has at least one spec that handicapped chimpanzee can play. For Engineer it’s Turret and Condi, for Ranger it’s Spirits.

speaking of that, engineer Bomb 5/ Glue Bomb would make a good earth combo field as well. im all for it, lets get it in