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Posted by: Shinja.5642

Shinja.5642

This Topic is about the limitet Out of Combat Movement that Mesmers have.

It’s a huge point for every Mesmer main. Its frustrating.

As a Mesmer the only Swiftness Skill is the Focus 4. – Temporal Curtain
(GW2 Wiki link: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Temporal_Curtain)

And the Random Swiftness on the Signet of Insparation.
(GW2 Wiki link: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Inspiration)
A deeper look:

Temporal Curtin:
Create a wall of energy that grants Swiftness to allies who cross it while crippling foes who touch it.
Swiftness: 12 s
Cooldown: 25s
Signet of Inspiration:
Passive: Grants a random boon every ten seconds.
Active: Copy all of your boons to nearby allies. (Short note: Not yourself)
So we have a 1/8 chance to get 10 seconds of Swiftness so in theory you have Swiftness every 70 seconds for 10 seconds

The Main Problems with Temporal Curtin:

First:
Bounds you to use the Focus in each and every Situation.
If PvP or PvE (WvW Sometimes~) you can’t travel without it.
Second and worst Problem:
This Swiftness Buff (12s) doesn’t stack with any other Swiftness you have applied.

Example:
You got a swiftness buff from your Random Signet and this Buff hast 2 seconds left then you walk trough your Temporal Curtin and nothing happens. Nothing.

Worst Case Zenario:
You want to Speedbuff yourself by using the Temporal Curtin and you set it up right infront of you. Now your Signet Procs the Random Swiftness.
You end up with 10 Seconds of Swiftness and a 25 second cooldown on your Focus.
You just wasted an ability and it wasn’t really your fault. Good Job.

But not everything is bad. I know this seems like a ‘Cry me a river’ Topic for many other classes (I think and i hope mesmers will understand my misery).

I hope its readable. English is not my First Language.

Shinja.

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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

TheGuy.3568

Here is the thing. Despite how it may seem only warrior, ele, and engineer can achieve permanent swiftness without gearing a very particular way and even then they do have to invest a little in boon duration. Ranger can keep it up with bird pets and warhorn but it requires a target. Thief can but you have to kill mobs randomly and set up for it. In any case not every class gets permanent swiftness. All classes have access to travelers rune and runes of speed.

Achieving permanent swiftness is not the same as strong mobility ooc. If you really want to just get around the map more quickly you are stuck in the guardian boat. Either invest in runes like air and cast mirror and temporal curtain to achieve permanent swiftness. Or simply buy travelers rune and be a little slower but requires no weapon specific options or utilities.

the reason temporal curtain doesn’t stack is that given the unlimited use ie as many players that walk through it while its active get swiftness it would make it possible to perma speed buff a zerg with little to no effort (though this happens already). It is an issue if balance and not a major issue at that if they buffed I doubt there would be complaints at the same time there isn’t much of an issue here given the other runspeed options.

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Posted by: Kman.7358

Kman.7358

Here is the thing. Despite how it may seem only warrior, ele, and engineer can achieve permanent swiftness without gearing a very particular way and even then they do have to invest a little in boon duration. Ranger can keep it up with bird pets and warhorn but it requires a target. Thief can but you have to kill mobs randomly and set up for it. In any case not every class gets permanent swiftness. All classes have access to travelers rune and runes of speed.

Achieving permanent swiftness is not the same as strong mobility ooc. If you really want to just get around the map more quickly you are stuck in the guardian boat. Either invest in runes like air and cast mirror and temporal curtain to achieve permanent swiftness. Or simply buy travelers rune and be a little slower but requires no weapon specific options or utilities.

the reason temporal curtain doesn’t stack is that given the unlimited use ie as many players that walk through it while its active get swiftness it would make it possible to perma speed buff a zerg with little to no effort (though this happens already). It is an issue if balance and not a major issue at that if they buffed I doubt there would be complaints at the same time there isn’t much of an issue here given the other runspeed options.

Mesmers don’t have ANYTHING but temporal curtain, is the problem. Most other classes, if not all, have access to a move speed signet, trait, or amazing access to swiftness. Mesmers ONLY get temporal curtain, and that’s it.

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Posted by: tetrodoxin.2134

tetrodoxin.2134

One does not >>simply buy<< traveler runes for 60g. Just sayin x_x"

But seriously, buying a full runeset just to be able to keep up with other classes is just stupid. It was often suggested that Signet of Inspiration should give a speed boost/swiftness (not perma) while ooc. That would be a huge quality of life change for all PvE & WvW Mesmers out there.

Anet hates [your class], since [other classes] got buffs while [your class] only received nerfs.

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

Teutos.8620

I have no problem with the fact, that we have to buy special runes to overcome a profession weakness. Nevertheless I’d love the see more options (especially in SPvP where your rune choice is limited). Most professions have to dedicate a special weapon, utility or trait choice to accomplish higher movement speed.

Current available runes:
Rune of the Centaur
(and in a lesser extend Rune of the Air)
Rune of Speed
Rune of the Traveler (not available in SPvP)

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Posted by: Shinja.5642

Shinja.5642

I think my main point was a bit missunderstood. i dont mean mesmers should have perma switftness thats ridic. but at least 1 other option except focus 4 would be very very needed.

The thing is you need to wear a focus or buy specific runes just to be able to have swiftness and thats just awful if we compare it to other classes.

(Warrior can drop 1 banner – > swiftness : and that rage thingy elite spell ~)
Ele have wind magic everywhere ~
Engi they have swiftness like everywhere?
thiekittenhortbow 5 -> Swiftness on dodge in a minor trait. -> swiftness on steal on a low trait.
and so on.

we as mesmers dont even have a trait that grants us swiftness (except random after an interrupt !!)

IF there is a good reason behind that please somebody let me know.

:: A 25% movement signet would do the trick ~

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Posted by: Gulesave.5073

Gulesave.5073

I think an OoC speed buff could easily be worked as a trait, but it can be done in a lot of different ways. It can even be worked into an existing trait.

For example, Compounding Power (Illusions III) could be changed to this:

  • Illusory Momentum: Gain increased movement speed, which is converted to increased damage when you have illusions out.
    • 0 Illusions: +21% Movement speed
    • 1 Illusion: +14% Movement speed; +2% Damage
    • 2 Illusions: +7% Movement speed; +4% Damage
    • 3 Illusions: +6% Damage
I should be writing.

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Posted by: Reckless.6325

Reckless.6325

l2travellerrunepls

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Posted by: RedCobra.7693

RedCobra.7693

travellers runes plus reduced blink, bingo, extremely fast OOC mobility l2p

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