I must have missed that the real notes are out there too!? or how the heck does everyone know the actual patch notes will be trash?
Experience, though they aren’t out yet. Even the patches which have been announced as very exciting (like the December one) have been trash, so why should that change now?
Warning! This post may contain traces of irony, sarcasm and peanuts.
In the case of the Warrior notes, I did find some of the changes to not make any sense. This would include increasing Rushes CD and nerfing Bull’s Charge, a skill no one complains about. So in this case I think I am going to believe the notes are false and that what we were shown earlier is more or less what we’re going to get.
Just an angry old man…
Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
I was excited for these mainly because they were significant changes. Nerfs or buffs, change is always interesting.
I dunno, “We nerfed healing signet by 8% and reduced armor of earth cooldown” isn’t very interesting to me. They didn’t make any new builds viable, didn’t rework garbage traits like Siphoned Power, they just…tweaked stuff that’s already seeing a ton of use.
As it has been said the accuracy of the leaked patch notes until now has a well derserved trust.
Now a Anet representative comes here to say they are fake and that the official ones will only be published by Anet. Ofc that doesn’t mean that those leaked are ALL the upcoming balance changes, more may come.
So i don’t want to call liar to anyone but maybe saying that are totally fake isn’t the truth either.
I’m wondering what would happen if Anet would work more often and comunicate much more frecuently with the playerbase via their beloved forum. Perhaps there would not be the need of any leak.
I was excited for these mainly because they were significant changes. Nerfs or buffs, change is always interesting.
I dunno, “We nerfed healing signet by 8% and reduced armor of earth cooldown” isn’t very interesting to me. They didn’t make any new builds viable, didn’t rework garbage traits like Siphoned Power, they just…tweaked stuff that’s already seeing a ton of use.
It’s not exciting, but wide-sweeping changes have never worked in the past and normally ended up coming along with many bugs that take months to get fixed (Signet passives not activating when you enter a zone). The really issue is how infrequent the updates are. I would much rather have a few small changes every 2 weeks with the living story updates than one large one every few months, or in this case a small one.
The Zerker and Sigil changes will really open up some new possibilities so that will be interesting. Being able to have a “on Crit” and “on Swap” sigil on a set may make up for the crit damage nerf.
Just an angry old man…
Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
actually a little disappointed! atleast with the ele and thief changes not being real.
would have loved extra might on my glass staff ele and trying out new builds on an improvisation thief!
fake or not, the bar has been set Anet, it’d be embarrassing if some guy making fake notes makes a better patch than the one you’ve had us waiting 4 months for
edit: though there was alot of AI buffing, which would have sucked! (turrets and spirit weapons) that’d make warrior thief and ele the only profs that aren’t spamming AI (though thieves and eles can still get AI, its not a center of their build)
I actually believe ANet.
Last time leaked patchnotes turned out they were real, no ANet employed made an official statement about them.
It is a good thing, to be honest. Those patchnotes were an huge mess in terms of balance.
I mean, why would ANet buff bunker guardian which is already the most prevalent build in any team comp? Why would ANet nerf Bull’s Charge? Why would ANet nerf Shadow Strike?
There are a lot of things in those patchnotes that made me wish they were fake.
Still hoping for new weapon sets for existing professions.
I’m disappointed these aren’t real. I should have known when i saw them and said to myself, “finally Anet made some sensible changes.” You really should consider making these changes real. Its sad that fake patch notes were the best patch notes i’ve ever seen for this game.
Ofc they are fake…because everyone knows that anet needs a year for so much changes. Major balance patches contain maximum 1/3 of the changes listed and change nothing in the world of GW2.
Gutted. Some of these Ele changes would have been nice. Tornado needs a BIG buff. The fact that it doesnt give extra toughness to an already weak (armor/toughness wise) class is bad enough, having an Elite that turns you into a big “kill me now” tornado is rather poor.
Looking at the elementalist changes was enough for me to know that these are fake. It’s obvious that the guy doesn’t know anything about balance.
10% reduced condition duration when using magnetic aura… lmfao.
Buffing elemental attunement out of ALL the things.
Giving 1 extra second burn on flamewall and calling it a day.
Removing the CD off Cleansing Water on spvp LOL. It was added because of spvp, genius.
If you’re reading this, don’t quit your day job. You suck at balancing even if it’s just wishful thinking.
Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.
Something is tingling my Spidy-senses here and telling me that this is a bad counter-argument, shockingly.
Personally, I’m skeptical about the notes, but I won’t be surprised whether or not they are true. But by judging ANet’s past behavior, I see no reason why these notes wouldn’t be true (or at least close to the truth).
I’m pretty sure, that since Anet says the notes are false, they are false.
…which means they contain parts that aren’t true among the things that are. Most likely candidates for the fake changes are the buffs (consequently, nerfs propably are mostly true).
Actions, not words.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
Looking at the elementalist changes was enough for me to know that these are fake. It’s obvious that the guy doesn’t know anything about balance.
10% reduced condition duration when using magnetic aura… lmfao.
It would be hilarious if these patch notes would be indeed true..:) But Anet can change it (if it’s really true) for the sake of changing then.
I doubt it. I would have a hard time believing it or I would be shocked if I read them before I saw this thread.
I mean, is he purposefully trying to act like ANet when adding useless stuff to abilities so people stop complaining about those abilities being weak? The changes don’t even make sense.
Of course some changes are happening, like OP said, he mixed them with changes that were already announced (evasion on burning speed, blast finisher on frozen burst, etc).
Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.
Anyone who read the thief notes, and understands the class should’ve known that these are fake. Improvisation would become the undisputed best trait in the game.
I am SO relieved. The only patch note I was even remotely happy with was Zealot’s Defense being more accurate. IMO Healing Sig needs something to the tune of 9-10%, not just 8%, and nothing against Decap engi? I would have been sad, because we would have definitely lost Ostrich Eggs, though you may have already.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I know you can’t cater to the whims of one player, but as far as I’m concerned, OE’s concerns are my own anyway, having seen the same competitive level he has (at least as far as yoloqueue is concerned) and I’m not going to be able to handle it if Decap engi isn’t addressed. It’s utterly insane.
Happy to see that the patch notes are fake. Because nothing in the ranger section reflected the main problem, which is, that rangers are useless and therefore unwelcome in teams.
Those patch notes were the closest step towards balancing that I’ve seen. -.-
Too good to be true.
WHAT?! Spirit weapon immune to damage “closest step towards balancing”? Futher buffs to already crazy OP bunker guardians?
lawl
You seem to have misunderstood somewhere within your hatred for the guardian class. These notes were comparably good balance changes, not changes that will magically make the game balanced.
Jorne, we have spent a good part of the day removing posts. We do not work on the weekends and wanted to make sure that those on these forums and those in Reddit understand that they are not true.
If you look at the Reddit thread, many of the comments are of people reacting and believing these notes. We do not want people to be upset by fake patch notes.
Does that make sense?
It makes some sense. The thing is that by giving this official attention in the form of a new “sticky” thread, you draw attention to it. Instead of remaining silent or simply replying to any one thread in which the changes are discussed that it is not the officially announced balance patch, but rather a post on Reddit, nothing more.
For example, I was not aware of the thread on Reddit, yet when I logged on these forums the first thing I checked out was this new sticky. And instead of concluding after the patch that there was in fact a troll on Reddit (what a surprise…) and that I should not give those things too much thought, you reply to what seems to be the first time a “leaked patch notes”-thread is in fact fake.
In only 24 hours this thread has gotten more views than “The New CDI Topics” and more than half of the Ranger Balance thread which has been around for weeks.
The point is, by making this thread a sticky you draw a lot of attention to the topic. My question remains: Why would you want that?
Mysterious Old Geek
Co-founder of Flying Pink Unicorns [PWNY], Ring of Fire
Oh, thank god. Some of those changes (to war, mes and ran) had be tasting barf in my mouth. Cheers, A, for the quick update.
@JorneMormel: because, perhaps, a lot of people think what they find on reddit to be true and would spread false word (even if they didn’t know it) and we’d have a lot of (misguided) angry threads and posts about it here and when wanting a dev’s reply, said dev might be going “???” and not even understanding what the deal is. So this makes sense to me: as you’re using empirical evidence to back your theory up, I’ll do too: I knew of the reddit thread before this post here came up, and I’m glad it got stickied and addressed.
Any class is easy to play, but not as easy to master. So sod off, warrior-haters.
@JorneMormel: because, perhaps, a lot of people think what they find on reddit to be true and would spread false word (even if they didn’t know it) and we’d have a lot of (misguided) angry threads and posts about it here and when wanting a dev’s reply, said dev might be going “???” and not even understanding what the deal is. So this makes sense to me: as you’re using empirical evidence to back your theory up, I’ll do too: I knew of the reddit thread before this post here came up, and I’m glad it got stickied and addressed.
Fair enough, although I still wonder why the thread was made a sticky as any normal thread with an official response to the matter would already clear things up.
If a thread about the leaked patch notes pops up, being able to quote an official response would have been enough to keep things in line, would you not agree?
Mysterious Old Geek
Co-founder of Flying Pink Unicorns [PWNY], Ring of Fire
Ranger:
Ranger pets are receiving a responsiveness pass and will be much easier to command. For example: Activating your F2 skill will now break your pet out of its current action in order to execute that ability.
kitten , and for once I was looking very much forward to this balance patch.
Finally the elementalist was improved considerably without having builds broken.
Sorry Allie, but there arent enough people that know enough about the game and care that much to troll the people remaining to sit down, think up, and type up a bunch of fake patch notes like that lol. The fact that you think we are stupid enough to believe that they are fake, when in reality, they will probably just have one or two here and there removed and one or two here and there added when the actual patch hits, is frankly quite insulting.
That being said, there are some great changes in there, especially for the ranger. So instead of trying to convince people that this isnt happening, why dont you accept a pre post thank you from the struggling-to-find-a place- rangers and make this thread have a positive ending for everyone.
Human Warrior, Ranger and dedicated Scout of Yaks bend
The Pinnacle of Resposibility [Mom]
I am glad they were fake. They cemented the reliance of Eles on water/arcane/cantrip,
killed off Mesmers, and buffed spvp Engineers. All very bad things.
Well, at least we know what the faker gets beat by in PvP.
Pretty much. Those changes would have removed Mesmers from pvp and wvw roaming. And buffing decap Engineers to the moon? Wut…
kitten , and for once I was looking very much forward to this balance patch.
Finally the elementalist was improved considerably without having builds broken.
My main is an ele, and those changes only cemented eles as water/arcane/cantrips. They did nothing to help anything else, and eles would still have massive baseline survivability problems.
it’s amazing to see that now it’s official these notes are fake, this thread is full of posts saying how there ‘were finally some viable patch notes’ and it ‘was to good to be true’.
I must have missed that the real notes are out there too!? or how the heck does everyone know the actual patch notes will be trash?
People are fey, fickle things. You can see the same ones going on about how terrible a patch it was, how it wouldn’t be enough, it’s a good start, etc. in the Reddit thread.
Or in short, few of the civilians know anything about war. Few of the players know anything about balancing a game.
Sorry Allie, but there arent enough people that know enough about the game and care that much to troll the people remaining to sit down, think up, and type up a bunch of fake patch notes like that lol. The fact that you think we are stupid enough to believe that they are fake, when in reality, they will probably just have one or two here and there removed and one or two here and there added when the actual patch hits, is frankly quite insulting.
We have people who make alternate accounts on their opponent’s servers just to sit in keeps all day wasting supply to make worthless siege to keep the supply in a tower to nothing. You sir, are underestimating how far people will go to troll.
[hS]
PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
You seem to have misunderstood somewhere within your hatred for the guardian class. These notes were comparably good balance changes, not changes that will magically make the game balanced.
P.S. It’s hard to take you seriously.
It’s not that I hate the guardian class, it is probably that you have no clue of the actual state of the game.
Guardian is already a must have in any competitive team, outshining any other support build in the game by far and you consider a futher buff to their support capability “closest step towards balancing”?
Giving also spirit weapon damage immunity bringing another unkillable AI build into play is a good balance choice?
I mean, who is really hard to take seriously is you.
I really hope that this list was 90% spot on and ArenaNet is mostly covering their backsides while they track down which play-tester can’t keep their yap hut.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
