Guild Wars 2

Rework Singet of the Wilds passive to not heal for this small amount, it worthless in power builds..But instead heal for 10% of the damage you do.The same goes for the pet…

I tried some power builds in sPvP and i usually see 2-3 k from Longbow in a full damage build.This will be around 200-300 health per sec, seem big but in a full damage build you have no good cond removal and you are very squishy.One inv and one block from the Greatsword are the only defensive abilities.So my idea is that a Ranger as long as he hits something he can gain some extra life..A Ranger that does not hit em he will be an easy target..So when you withdraw you wont heal, when you miss you wont heal, when they dodge you wont heal when you hit a tanky target you wont heal so much..So you will be effective against squishier targets.Cause this were Power Ranger hurts imo, it has no ways to win against other glasscannons

10% would be seriously OP. Thats much higher effectiveness than healing sig for warriors, which is already a problem. A barrage and rapid fire attack would give you way more healing than the standard healing skills on a much shorter cooldown.

And we already have a feature in the game for that with life steal, which can be added to any weapon.

you would make it worthless for non power specs then. How about you buff its base value instead and slightly tone down the scaling off HP?

ranger allready has the strongest self healing in game. i dont see a problem with the healing. the power scaling and distance keeping is the problem.

Chokolata.1870:

you would make it worthless for non power specs then. How about you buff its base value instead and slightly tone down the scaling off HP?

IT SHOULD be worthless to non power specs..Cause its stupid to have it just for the passive…The non power Specs take it and never use the active….

In power specs tho it will be good to use it with Signet of Beastmaster when you dont take so much dmg

Lexandro.1456:

10% would be seriously OP. Thats much higher effectiveness than healing sig for warriors, which is already a problem. A barrage and rapid fire attack would give you way more healing than the standard healing skills on a much shorter cooldown.

And we already have a feature in the game for that with life steal, which can be added to any weapon.

agree..10% is too much….The number can be changed.Do you like it as an idea?

No because as I said we already have the same effect with life steal. Life stealing as a skill is essentially necromancers ability, not a rangers.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_stealing

Coarr.3286:

ranger allready has the strongest self healing in game. i dont see a problem with the healing. the power scaling and distance keeping is the problem.

I would say that Ranger has a lot of access to some self healing traits-traits and regen.Is it enough altho?Hambow Warriors are able to take Zerker amulet and be tanky enough cause they have a strong (passive) healing skill, it doesnt requires healing power investment and it takes only one healing slot…
In Ranger you must try to combine a lot of defensive traits-skills to be close to a what healing signet can do..

I mean running 30 points in BM traitline for Natural Healing(it doesnt scales with healing power), you must probably take Natures voice and Guard to keep 100% uptime regen and Signet of The Wild for another 64 hp/s..Without a clerics gear you wont get any close to what a Healing signet warrior can do…And with Cleric you lose about 70% of dmg

Lexandro.1456:

No because as I said we already have the same effect with life steal. Life stealing as a skill is essentially necromancers ability, not a rangers.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_stealing

I got this idea from LoL.Essentially the only way for the ranged AD to survive and stay in teamfights is the lifesteal…They have some ways of escaping, avoiding skill shots but you will no doubt take some cleave dmg..Escaping also means that you also do 0 dmg..So there must be a way to take some healable dmg from cleaves in order to deliver as much dmg as it needs to kill the target..

Ranger did use to gain health from pet attack in guild wars 1. It was called predatory bond or something and it healed ranger for about 23 per strike (on a 600 hp bar)

I perfectly see this signet as a effective source of healing but the gain should be reduced to about 3% of the ranger hp (aka 80 to 100) per pet strike.

The current passives stats are insulting.

The funny thing is that 10% isn’t even high, power rangers deal so little damage than it basically does nothing, it will still heal a lot less than Healing Signet.
But I think something like that should be a trait, and leave the signet as it is.
Changing the signet will nerf to the ground all roamer BM specs, which will be very bad to rangers since it’s one of the only viable specs in wvw.

I agree that “Signet of Nature” is not very well designed
Bunker players don’t use the active
Power players don’t use the passive

“Signet of the Hunt” needs a rework of his passive too. I think the 50% additional damage can be very powerfull and I don’t think Anet will increase Ranger’s coef damage with it like that.

“Signet of Stone” and" Signet of Renewal" are good but they can receive some love.
“Signet of Stone” is clearly not the better immunity skill… and with “Signet of Renewal”, sometime you have to waste a stun breaker to clean condis or the opposite…

Back to the topic, yes signets are in the power line but they should not be exclusive to power builds. Yes, that change could help power builds but it will nerf BM builds…

DanSH.6143:

The funny thing is that 10% isn’t even high, power rangers deal so little damage than it basically does nothing, it will still heal a lot less than Healing Signet.
But I think something like that should be a trait, and leave the signet as it is.
Changing the signet will nerf to the ground all roamer BM specs, which will be very bad to rangers since it’s one of the only viable specs in wvw.

Maybe by adding also condition dmg into the 10% lifesteal..A 600 burning will heal you for 60 hp/sec, aint bad imo…

Its stupid giving us an active and then forcing us not to use it..

“its right there but do not use it, its more fun not using stuff”

Dardamaniac.1295:

Its stupid giving us an active and then forcing us not to use it.."

Sounds like Healing Signet

Its even more stupid than Healing Signet…
In Power builds with Signet of Beastmaster trait the passive feels worthless
In cond BM builds the active feels worthless..Its the casting time and the unreliability of the pet that does it..

Sooooooooo bad design..Sooooooo little thought on Rangers signet……….

10% is high. 3k crits with longbow aren’t that unusual so healing for 300 a second on top of ungent and regen is a bit much don’t you think?

Just make it heal the Ranger for as much as it heals the pet.

Would be nice if it broke stun (since it gives stability) and had a half second cast time though.

Would also be nice if the class didn’t need 30pts in traits to warrant using 90% of their utility skills.

Atherakhia.4086:

Would be nice if it broke stun (since it gives stability) and had a half second cast time though.

Break stun = No cast time

If only they could remove the stun break from SoR and put it in SoN…

meikodesign.6471:

Atherakhia.4086:

Would be nice if it broke stun (since it gives stability) and had a half second cast time though.

Break stun = No cast time

If only they could remove the stun break from SoR and put it in SoN…

duh, you’re right