Guild Wars 2

When ranger pets are dead/no health, it still heals the ranger but you can’t even knock it away. If you do knock it back before it loses all its health, it just runs back and continues to res the ranger. Is this working as intended?

What are your thoughts?

Well you could say ‘if pet dead no heals!’, but then Rangers would only have 3 downed skills, since when a ranger is downed their pet is usually dead too.

Bear in mind also that pets currently die very easily, and that Rangers already suffer numerous penalties when they do – e.g no F-skills, significant drop in DPS, some traits rendered useless and several utilities rendered useless.

It’s a shame really, because too much of the ranger profession is reliant on a terribly flawed mechanic – the pet. It’s why you see so many Longbow PewNewbs – it’s a build with higher reward with less reliance on the pet. If pets actually become viable in the future then maybe questions like yours will come up for more debate.

Bryzy.2719:

Bear in mind also that pets currently die very easily

It might be because I am sick, but unintended pun is really quite funny to me…

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GoogleBrandon.5073:

Bryzy.2719:

Bear in mind also that pets currently die very easily

It might be because I am sick, but unintended pun is really quite funny to me…

… /goes away

I literally JUST noticed that as I re-read through Ahaaaa

Cenile.8340:

When ranger pets are dead/no health, it still heals the ranger but you can’t even knock it away. If you do knock it back before it loses all its health, it just runs back and continues to res the ranger. Is this working as intended?

What are your thoughts?

This must be a bug, because I am a ranger and dead pets never resurrect me.

One of the ranger’s downed skill is to resurrect the pet and then it proceeds to heal you. But if the pet is interrupted, it stops healing the ranger.

The downed skill will res the pet and then command it to heal. The pet is likely on passive and will walk back to the Ranger once knocked away. Are you certain it’s actually healing the Ranger too?

Bryzy.2719:

Well you could say ‘if pet dead no heals!’, but then Rangers would only have 3 downed skills, since when a ranger is downed their pet is usually dead too.

Ranger have 5 downed skills, don’t forget F2 even when downed. Wolf Fear works pretty well.

The op is right, the ranger pet is just too darn good. Anet should really change the rangers class mechanic to make things fair for everyone else.

Jim Hunter.6821:

The op is right, the ranger pet is just too darn good. Anet should really change the rangers class mechanic to make things fair for everyone else.

I see what you’re trying to do… and I approve of this message.

Bryzy.2719:

Well you could say ‘if pet dead no heals!’, but then Rangers would only have 3 downed skills, since when a ranger is downed their pet is usually dead too.

Bear in mind also that pets currently die very easily, and that Rangers already suffer numerous penalties when they do – e.g no F-skills, significant drop in DPS, some traits rendered useless and several utilities rendered useless.

It’s a shame really, because too much of the ranger profession is reliant on a terribly flawed mechanic – the pet. It’s why you see so many Longbow PewNewbs – it’s a build with higher reward with less reliance on the pet. If pets actually become viable in the future then maybe questions like yours will come up for more debate.

Actually I don’t know about you guys, but I play a LB ranger in PvP and actually use my pets quite often. Spider for immob, then RF into thier face is always fun. Or one of my favorites, PBS to interrupt a stomp, then spider immob with RF. Or PBS, spider immob, switch to pig for the knock down. Pets can be VERY useful, but as you said, the “pewNewbs” don’t fully realize just how awesome pets can be, and tend to neglect them.

Anton.1769:

Bryzy.2719:

Well you could say ‘if pet dead no heals!’, but then Rangers would only have 3 downed skills, since when a ranger is downed their pet is usually dead too.

Ranger have 5 downed skills, don’t forget F2 even when downed. Wolf Fear works pretty well.

No, because you can’t use the F2 when the pet is dead. Pet dies = 3 effective downed skills.

down 3 should be interrupt able.

Simon.3794:

down 3 should be interrupt able.

It is. Target the pet, and stun/knock back.

pdavis.8031:

Simon.3794:

down 3 should be interrupt able.

It is. Target the pet, and stun/knock back.

Don’t listen to pdavis, targeting the pet does nothing so don’t bother trying it. Y’all just need to accept that rangers are immortal and the best thing to do when fighting one is to stand perfectly still without using skills so that it is a quick death and you don’t suffer.

Jim Hunter.6821:

pdavis.8031:

Simon.3794:

down 3 should be interrupt able.

It is. Target the pet, and stun/knock back.

Don’t listen to pdavis, targeting the pet does nothing so don’t bother trying it. Y’all just need to accept that rangers are immortal and the best thing to do when fighting one is to stand perfectly still without using skills so that it is a quick death and you don’t suffer.

I agree. Maybe thats why LB Ranger is considered overpowered… :P

I’ve seen pets start to revive owners get feared away and come back and continue healing all the time. “Dead” pets can revive their owners too. I’ve tried many times to kill a pet ressing their owner to no effect and feared a pet away from ressing for only a brief delay in their ressing. I don’t know if CCing them twice would stop the ressing as, more often than not, it’s a downed battle.

pdavis.8031:

Simon.3794:

down 3 should be interrupt able.

It is. Target the pet, and stun/knock back.

It’s not an interrupt when the pet just keep channeling the skill when the CC is off with out even recasting….

Cenile.8340:

Is this working as intended?

What are your thoughts?

Yes it’s WAI.

Not sure what more to add? Every class has a powerfull downed skill, rangers have that. And no, you can’t interrupt the skill with a single use of CC that would be stupid. You can interrupt the pet, but after CC ends, it will continue to heal.

If it’s a pvp/wvw issue, then use your brain and don’t let a downed ranger heal.

Dead pet doesn’t revive. Skill #3 revives pet if it is dead and orders it to revive you. Revived pet is able to revive the ranger. Now where’s the issue?

I have noticed before that some cc doesn’t interrupt pet revive, but I have never seen a pet with 0 health reviving a ranger without gaining health from downed 3. Also, f4 also works while downed, so you can 2→ f4 → f2 (at least it did last I checked, it’s been a while since I played my ranger much).

As for downed abilities in general, they vary between extremely strong and utterly useless. Ranger/warrior #3 are both very good (warriors can be touchy about this, but it can win them fights that are close enough to end with both parties down). Ele has a strong 2, necro is decent on both, guardian can revive others with their 3 and that aoe kb is decent. Engineer has arguably the most useless downed, as 2 brings enemies closer to kill you and 3 very seldom gets used in pvp, as 2 tends to seal your fate. Mesmer and thief have fairly good 2s, as they are nearly 100% stomp prevention, though in pve they’re less useful.

I wish the downed mechanics were more consistent across the board, but that’s unlikely. As it is, ranger is still the strongest in downstate, and that’s unlikely to change. Whether or not the invincible pet bug exists does need proof; something as simple as a video would suffice.

It seems to function as intended on land but in water it’s utter madness as the pet will continue to heal the Ranger at an alarming rate even whilst defeated. It also seems to ignore various forms of underwater CC.

But then again, nobody cares about underwater combat. You should see what I can do with a condi Mesmer underwater when traited for Illusionary Elasticity.

To be honest it is interesting how things like this come up for debate over 2 years after they have been functioning in game.

One might suspect an alterior motive for bringing up threads like this

But no, surely not…

Bryzy.2719:

To be honest it is interesting how things like this come up for debate over 2 years after they have been functioning in game.

One might suspect an alterior motive for bringing up threads like this

But no, surely not…

Rangers… Rangers everywhere :P

This is why i simply stomp other rangers so you wont have to deal with a pet ressing him/her. I find myself way to many times downed and pet is getting me up even when 3 people hit me, not my fault but theirs for not stomping, lol.

To OP: yes, ranger’s downed state is extremely strong. It’s intended, since rangers tend to spend most of their time in that state

Sorel.4870:

To OP: yes, ranger’s downed state is extremely strong. It’s intended, since rangers tend to spend most of their time in that state

LOLOLOLOL you made my day!

Heres a idea…Stomp a downed player and stop trying to solo pew pew them then cry cause they heal up…

If the pet is dead when the Ranger uses “Lick Wounds” the pet will res back to full health and proceed to res the Ranger. If the pet is killed again while trying to res the Ranger, it will stop. If Lick Wounds comes off cooldown before you kill the pet/Ranger, the Ranger can again use Lick Wounds after you kill the pet to res the pet again.

It will not continue to res the Ranger if you kill the pet unless Lick Wounds has come off cooldown and the Ranger again uses Lick Wounds. But it is a fairly long cooldown and if the Ranger has time to wait it out, it’s probably your fault for neglecting to stomp them.

Cenile.8340:

When ranger pets are dead/no health, it still heals the ranger but you can’t even knock it away. If you do knock it back before it loses all its health, it just runs back and continues to res the ranger. Is this working as intended?

What are your thoughts?

actually this is wrong. The pet does not heal the ranger, the pet heals itself rapidly (if pet was almost revived then yes it will start healing very soon).

The pet acts like a stubborn player. It will keep trying to heal its master until the pet itself is dead, swapped, ordered to do something or master is dead.

They fixed the “invuln pet healing dead player” bug A LONG time ago, and ever since, it’s been horrible to go down as a ranger. Mostly cuz we need to target enemies for our downed skills to work…