Guild Wars 2

Why would arenanet even CONSIDER making this type of build. This establishes that guardians, eles and warriors will basically be really broken. These 3 classes will basically be unkillable. Warriors will probably just constantly use hammer and never die. Same goes to guardian. Elementalist on the other hand, can just build full support and never die as well.

They’d also never kill you, especially in the case of guardian.

Healing power scales horribly.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

They’d also never kill you, especially in the case of guardian.

Yep. Makes defending a point pretty nice though. Keep the enemy busy for awhile.

They’re really broken, indeed.

It’s hard to find another way to get players to screw themselves over better than to offer them the option of taking zero offense of any sort.

Anyone attempting to use a Nomad type is asking for death at the hands of any condition build.

1 nomad in a small group of balanced killers works nice I hear.

May be worth a read.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Best-user-of-nomad-gear/

Broken in conquest style pvp mode? yes
Is it available in conquest style pvp mode? no
broken in pve? no
broken in wvw? who cares

if someone in full nomad gear kills you, please retire from the game.

well, seeing how elementalists are the proven highest dps in the game, they’ll be unstoppable gods in this armor
obviously        >_>

The only build that could kill something with Nomad, is a beastmaster ranger, and that’s only because the pet doesn’t get it’s stats from the ranger’s gear. Even still, does anybody even have a full set of nomad’s yet? I wouldn’t waste the time for a full set, maybe a few pieces could fit into a build, but a full set is pointless.

keep in mind that just because the armor has no offensive stats, the trinkets, runes, sigils, other weapons, and traits do not have to have the same. Any one of those pieces could mitigate damage taken or healing lost due to bad. Approach with caution but know your weaknesses

warriorjrd.8695:

The only build that could kill something with Nomad, is a beastmaster ranger, and that’s only because the pet doesn’t get it’s stats from the ranger’s gear. Even still, does anybody even have a full set of nomad’s yet? I wouldn’t waste the time for a full set, maybe a few pieces could fit into a build, but a full set is pointless.

That could be the one useful nomad build right there!

Oh wait the pet’s dead…

Sube Dai.8496:

warriorjrd.8695:

The only build that could kill something with Nomad, is a beastmaster ranger, and that’s only because the pet doesn’t get it’s stats from the ranger’s gear. Even still, does anybody even have a full set of nomad’s yet? I wouldn’t waste the time for a full set, maybe a few pieces could fit into a build, but a full set is pointless.

That could be the one useful nomad build right there!

Oh wait the pet’s dead…

You must not know what a beastmaster pet is… I wish you luck killing one, especially if the player wants it alive.

Nomad necro plague form trololo

I run full Nomads in WvW and GvG on my guardian. Its good at sustaining your front line team during fights, if you know how to use it properly. However that is the only place for it in the game aside from a splash stat in some builds.

Anchoku.8142:

keep in mind that just because the armor has no offensive stats, the trinkets, runes, sigils, other weapons, and traits do not have to have the same. Any one of those pieces could mitigate damage taken or healing lost due to bad. Approach with caution but know your weaknesses

aaaand you could do the same thing before, only the armor is offensive and everything else isn’t. nomad’s won’t be OP, i doubt someone that specs heavy into 3 defensive stats has any chance of hurting you badly, so this discussion is kinda pointless.

If its not in spvp, its not that big of a problem. I haven’t played spvp in over a month, so I haven’t checked, but I doubt its in there. If it was, imagine the bunkers….bunker warriors/guards just sitting on a point. Or, it could go full cheese and do a triple turret-perma protection engi build since the turret damage would be decent and let the engi sit there with protection constantly up and just healing constantly.

^^. It isn’t a big deal as long as it is not in PvP.

In WvW zerging, it is fine if you just want to run around and just tag stuff. You aren’t overly valuable though.

In GvG, the meta is more towards dps at this point, so you won’t see too many who run this gear.

the only people who should use nomad are commanders in WvW.
in PvE its not useful, in WvW zerging u bring nothing for the fight. u are just there. Nothing else. U will survive and do ur bit dmg that is enough to gain ur bags and so on, but thats it.
Commanders can use it, they dont need to do the dmg, they need to lead and should be the last who dies.

healing does in fact scale horribly.

The ele heals well because of its skills. Even a full berserker ele have very nice healing abilities (in my mind that’s the real problem)

the warrior has a passive heal that is decent but it is far from op. The guardian has many heals and condi removal. Neither profession is a bunker by nature

its useless in pve, useless in wvw and not available in pvp
end of conversation

Presuming you’re talking wvw here. I’d take one nomad AH guard and one nomad healbot ele. Absolutely no more then that though.

Sube Dai.8496:

warriorjrd.8695:

The only build that could kill something with Nomad, is a beastmaster ranger, and that’s only because the pet doesn’t get it’s stats from the ranger’s gear. Even still, does anybody even have a full set of nomad’s yet? I wouldn’t waste the time for a full set, maybe a few pieces could fit into a build, but a full set is pointless.

That could be the one useful nomad build right there!

Oh wait the pet’s dead…

Good luck killing my pet

Those saying healing scales horribly: yes on certain skills and classes it does, on ranger and guard? No, it scales quite good.
Those saying you deal no damage: yes all but ranger and maybe minionmancer deal no damage. Ranger pet has its own stats, including its own crit chance and ferocity, completely separate from the rangers own stats. A snow leo will have 23, 6k hp, roughly 70% crit chance, 180% crit damage, base attack damage is 676, passive regen from traits and signet of the wild (signet uses a coeff of 0.25 for pet regen and 0.15 for player) that pet will have roughly 450 hp pr sec regen. If using shout regen pet regen will be in excess of 790hp pr second + near perma protection.
Aside from terrible pathing thus chance of pet hitting, there is no other profession that comes even remotely close to the rangers dps in nomads gear. Not even remotely so. Ranger itself will have poor dps, prob not being able to deal over 500 damage on gs aa. But other then that ranger dps will be pulled up by pet

Healing scales terribly on a Guardian. The only skills that scale somewhat decent are Empower (16-20 second CD depending on your traits) and Selfless daring, which adds healing to your dodges, it doesn’t turn your dodges into heals. If you start using dodges as heals you only make sure that you can’t dodge when you need them to survive. “I have dodges to spare”, is something that only inexperienced or bad players would utter.

Unless, like some people, you think a coefficient of 0.125 is “good”.