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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

HeadCrowned.6834

Please, remove the auto DS cast on this trait, it pretty much ruins it for me. I dont know why it is added in the first place, but a player should determine himself when to go into DS. Instead of moving this skill to the proper traitline you just made it worse. What’s left of the ‘’better survivability’’ promised for necro’s? SA cooldown reduced with 10 secs? Made me laugh.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Actually it seems that currently it blocks the attack, that would kill you, completly. So a, lets say, 10k hit from a boss that would kill if you are at, lets say, 200 health will only deal 200 damage. No damage overflow to DS

This makes the trait definitly better then before. Though a better base healing and worse scaling would have been better i guess.

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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

HeadCrowned.6834

Does it only activates automatically when youre at 0 HP? Cuz it did not seemed so when I played PvP…

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Does it only activates automatically when youre at 0 HP? Cuz it did not seemed so when I played PvP…

If you have at least 10% life force and you take a hit -any hit- that would deal more damage than your remaining life, and you are not in death shroud, it will negate the damage and put you in death shroud.

That’s how it seems to work right now. Still, remember the 30 second cooldown.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Unholy sanctuary needs about a 200% buff to the healing it provides. Then it COULD be “ok”. Having conditional regen is just horrendously bad. It isn’t a build around trait at all. Something is going wrong with their testing.

People pick up regen on tiny cooldown weapon skills. And they added a conditional form of this regen as a grandmaster trait.

It just makes no sense whatsoever.

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Posted by: Seiishizo.7162

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its a useless trait and it will always be that way. unless they up the healing by alot.

it even heals less then the 3 points into defence traits of warrior and that is an always on trait and a minor trait.

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

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To me this trait buff was designed for old, or blind people, as a way to survive battles with horrible reaction times. For those of us that can press F1 fast enough, its meaningless.

I HONESTLY do not understand why the amount of health restored from the trait can’t be equal to that of a warrior’s healing signet (1/3) or even an ele’s SoR procs (1/2). I mean DS isn’t even active all the time!!! WTF FREALZ.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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I’ve been messing around with it lately and I’m actually pleasantly surprised. I’m a lot tougher to kill than I expected to be with 0 healing power and no toughness outside of traits and base. It is a “build around” trait, but there is actually a build I’m working out the kinks on with high sustain thanks to this trait.

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Posted by: zapv.8051

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I’ve been messing around with it lately and I’m actually pleasantly surprised. I’m a lot tougher to kill than I expected to be with 0 healing power and no toughness outside of traits and base. It is a “build around” trait, but there is actually a build I’m working out the kinks on with high sustain thanks to this trait.

While I certainly can understand it’s better than you thought, it is still a bad trait. How it works currently with the block is nicer, but it still doesn’t make this trait good. The healing is laughable considering eles have a 1 point minor that provides 80 healing per second base to allies with no requirements (other than necros not being in Death Shroud). The other effect seems nice at first glance, but without any escapes in DS and the low base healing your just delaying the inevitable by a few seconds at most against good players. This would be great if it was a 1 point minor, but a grandmaster trait that buys you a few seconds is laughable at best.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Depends how evenly matched you are with your opponent and what you do right before entering death shroud. It needs a lot of build support, but it works rather well. You can’t quite compare it to the ele or warrior traits because while Unholy Sanctuary is healing you, you are not losing health.

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Posted by: zapv.8051

zapv.8051

Depends how evenly matched you are with your opponent and what you do right before entering death shroud. It needs a lot of build support, but it works rather well. You can’t quite compare it to the ele or warrior traits because while Unholy Sanctuary is healing you, you are not losing health.

That isn’t a good argument, I shouldn’t have to remind you what those two classes gain in exchange for DS. I looked at your build and while I’m sure it can work in wvw (really wish we could get a siphon buff for that awesome zealot’s armor), good players put far too much pressure on you for the trait to be effective (especially considering the investment you have to put in.) Granted I’d be very glad if you could prove me wrong with some video or something.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Right, I know what we trade off for death shroud. Still, the circumstances around US and traits on other professions are different enough that a straight comparison just doesn’t really work.

Ironically, a siphon buff won’t affect my build at all :p

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

feel horrible for necro players.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

I think it would work rather well with bloodmagic builds (e.g. 0/0/6/6/2 build) but too bad that bloodmagic sucks…

So plz Anet allow the siphons to work in DS or/and make siphon builds more viable (e.g. by giving them traits that allow your siphons to heal allies).

Alternatively some number changes would be needed.

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Posted by: Swamurabi.7890

Swamurabi.7890

I need to test if Unholy Sanctuary prevents fatal fall damage.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

I need to test if Unholy Sanctuary prevents fatal fall damage.

It doesn’t.

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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

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What I do like though is that we are able to interact/rezz/stomp while we are in DS now, that’s probably the only decent upgrade we had.