Why warriors are so ridiculous?
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI
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I want someone to translate this please….
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI……..
I want someone to translate this please….
I think he is British.
(edited by xbutcherx.3861)
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI……..
I want someone to translate this please….
Können Sie jetzt verstehen?
I don’t understand a word.
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI
For those complaining they can’t figure out the post;
“My name is Fred and I’ve played MMORPG’s for over 6 years. I joined Guild Wars 2 last year and I found it’s a beautiful game and the pvp system made me very happy. I had never seen a pvp system like this, and I’ve played Perfect World, WoW, Aion, Everquest, and Tibia. I know I shouldn’t be highlighting these games on this forum, but I wanted to say how there is one downside that GW2 has vs. these games. One class dominates; The Warrior.
I main a gaurdian, I thought that gaurds were a powerful class and very cool, but unfortunately we can only do one thing at a time. We either tank, or we build glass cannon. In comparison the warrior can build glass cannon and still tank, or build as a tank and still hit like a glass cannon. Warriors have a good base health, great burst damage, mobility, blocks and invulns, as well kitten many weapon options that put other classes to shame. The warrior is so ridiculous and overpowered.
I don’t understand having a class that beats all others. It’s no fun playing a game where one class dominates."
It is the history of MMO’s that one group will claim another group (class) is OP due to their perception of the class mechanics. I have never played an MMO where this isn’t the case and the forums are almost always filled with such complaints.
I used to think that my hybrid PU Mesmer couldn’t lose in a 1v1 or 1v2 until I met this Warrior using a strange hybrid build. She ate me alive. Of course, that same Warrior was destroyed by a very skilled Ranger who I was able to easily defeat on my Mesmer. The point is, every class/build has a counter and ever counter can be defeated by a skilled and intelligent player.
I personally don’t believe in the OP rhetoric and find the topic only diminishes the fun of the game. If you are unable to defeat another class, perhaps you will find more success in learning their weakness.
If people spent half the time doing research and trial/error testing as they did sounding the trumpets of OP complaints, I think the gaming/MMO community would be far better off.
+1 Final Patriot.
FinalPatriot said it well and I have yet to see one single warrior build that had no counter for it.
Mouggari – Warrior – Candy cane Avenger
+1 FinalPatriot.
And it gets more complex than that, because in many cases where another spec could not defeat one player in a “fair” fight, the very idea is to not fight fair. And different classes and specs have varying degrees of ability to either create or deny attacks of opportunity or tilt the combat in one side’s favour.
And then there’s momentum, the ability to fight again and again without having to wait for any lengthy cooldowns to recycle, versus shining-moment setups where you rely on everything working together. And so on.
So yeah. Many of the complaints are… thin, at best.
Warriors are only OP when Anet give them OP stealth,atm thieves are top of OP scale by long shoot
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI
1.) Guardians are the superior support class. That is their strong suite. Therefore your assumption that Guardians would hold more damage was wrong.
2.) Warriors are frontline damage dealers. Who rely on their high health poor, healing, and optional CC for survival.
3.) Warriors can only use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapons if you use only one-handed weapons.
4.) Guardians get 15K health when going zerk because they have access to protection, aegis, invulnerabilities, and regen. Warriors get (with zerk) 21-24K health with access to regen.
5.) A warriors CANNOT have, mobility, stuns, damage, and defense all in one build. If you think they can then please post the build.
6.) The hammer has the most telegraphed skills of any of the warriors weapons. And all of the warriors powerful attacks are more telegraphed than a broadway musical.
7.) Warriors cannot kill everything. Ask any Mesmer, Engineers, Thiefs, Guardians, (now) Elementalists, even Rangers.
In conclusion. The warrior is the easiest class to play from the start and will easily kill new players(you). But when you get better you will find that any decent warrior pales in comparison to any decent player of the other professions.
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI1.) Guardians are the superior support class. That is their strong suite. Therefore your assumption that Guardians would hold more damage was wrong.
2.) Warriors are frontline damage dealers. Who rely on their high health poor, healing, and optional CC for survival.
3.) Warriors can only use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapons if you use only one-handed weapons.
4.) Guardians get 15K health when going zerk because they have access to protection, aegis, invulnerabilities, and regen. Warriors get (with zerk) 21-24K health with access to regen.
5.) A warriors CANNOT have, mobility, stuns, damage, and defense all in one build. If you think they can then please post the build.
6.) The hammer has the most telegraphed skills of any of the warriors weapons. And all of the warriors powerful attacks are more telegraphed than a broadway musical.
7.) Warriors cannot kill everything. Ask any Mesmer, Engineers, Thiefs, Guardians, (now) Elementalists, even Rangers.In conclusion. The warrior is the easiest class to play from the start and will easily kill new players(you). But when you get better you will find that any decent warrior pales in comparison to any decent player of the other professions.
Warrior uses 2 weapons set? at total of 4??
Hammer, GS, Swords, Horn, Shield, Axes, Longbow, Mace.
Did I miss any?
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI1.) Guardians are the superior support class. That is their strong suite. Therefore your assumption that Guardians would hold more damage was wrong.
2.) Warriors are frontline damage dealers. Who rely on their high health poor, healing, and optional CC for survival.
3.) Warriors can only use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapons if you use only one-handed weapons.
4.) Guardians get 15K health when going zerk because they have access to protection, aegis, invulnerabilities, and regen. Warriors get (with zerk) 21-24K health with access to regen.
5.) A warriors CANNOT have, mobility, stuns, damage, and defense all in one build. If you think they can then please post the build.
6.) The hammer has the most telegraphed skills of any of the warriors weapons. And all of the warriors powerful attacks are more telegraphed than a broadway musical.
7.) Warriors cannot kill everything. Ask any Mesmer, Engineers, Thiefs, Guardians, (now) Elementalists, even Rangers.In conclusion. The warrior is the easiest class to play from the start and will easily kill new players(you). But when you get better you will find that any decent warrior pales in comparison to any decent player of the other professions.
Warrior uses 2 weapons set? at total of 4??
Hammer, GS, Swords, Horn, Shield, Axes, Longbow, Mace.
Did I miss any?
I was referring to the fact that the OP listed off a bunch of weapons as though a warrior could use all of them at the same time.
A warrior can use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapon if they are all one handed. So if I used a GS and a sword/warhorn combination that would be 3 different weapons. If I used sword/axe and mace/warhorn it would be 4 different weapons.
See what I mean?
Also a warrior can use the following weapons: Rifle, Longbow, Hammer, Greatsword, Sword, Mace, Axe, Shield, Warhorn. Water weapons include Spear and Harpoon gun
(edited by bobomb.5209)
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI1.) Guardians are the superior support class. That is their strong suite. Therefore your assumption that Guardians would hold more damage was wrong.
2.) Warriors are frontline damage dealers. Who rely on their high health poor, healing, and optional CC for survival.
3.) Warriors can only use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapons if you use only one-handed weapons.
4.) Guardians get 15K health when going zerk because they have access to protection, aegis, invulnerabilities, and regen. Warriors get (with zerk) 21-24K health with access to regen.
5.) A warriors CANNOT have, mobility, stuns, damage, and defense all in one build. If you think they can then please post the build.
6.) The hammer has the most telegraphed skills of any of the warriors weapons. And all of the warriors powerful attacks are more telegraphed than a broadway musical.
7.) Warriors cannot kill everything. Ask any Mesmer, Engineers, Thiefs, Guardians, (now) Elementalists, even Rangers.In conclusion. The warrior is the easiest class to play from the start and will easily kill new players(you). But when you get better you will find that any decent warrior pales in comparison to any decent player of the other professions.
Warrior uses 2 weapons set? at total of 4??
Hammer, GS, Swords, Horn, Shield, Axes, Longbow, Mace.
Did I miss any?I was referring to the fact that the OP listed off a bunch of weapons as though a warrior could use all of them at the same time.
A warrior can use 2 weapon sets. A total of 4 different weapon if they are all one handed. So if I used a GS and a sword/warhorn combination that would be 3 different weapons. If I used sword/axe and mace/warhorn it would be 4 different weapons.
See what I mean?
Also a warrior can use the following weapons: Rifle, Longbow, Hammer, Greatsword, Sword, Mace, Axe, Shield, Warhorn. Water weapons include Spear and Harpoon gun
Oh ok !! nvm my post then =)
The big “issue” with Warrior is mainly a matter of perspective.
For months, the class was a beast in PvE, decent in WvW, and a walking free kill in PvP. Unfortunately, as with any large-scale balancing situation, buffing the class to be stronger in PvP has arguably over-strengthened them in the two areas they were already reasonable-to-darned good in.
In the end, it’s another argument for the need to fully split PvE and PvP. As we are now, balancing for one directly effects the other. We also need to figure out and implement exactly where WvW lies on the overall scale. Else, this kinda thing will continue, with a different class being “OP” every 3-6 months.
Other 80s: Any but Warrior
The big “issue” with Warrior is mainly a matter of perspective.
For months, the class was a beast in PvE, decent in WvW, and a walking free kill in PvP. Unfortunately, as with any large-scale balancing situation, buffing the class to be stronger in PvP has arguably over-strengthened them in the two areas they were already reasonable-to-darned good in.
In the end, it’s another argument for the need to fully split PvE and PvP. As we are now, balancing for one directly effects the other. We also need to figure out and implement exactly where WvW lies on the overall scale. Else, this kinda thing will continue, with a different class being “OP” every 3-6 months.
Agreed
Warrior considered OP in PVE.
Thieves and eles far outdamage us.
Guardians Mesmers and engis bring far more utility.
The thing is warriors haven’t been OP for 3-6 months. More like 8-9 mos. Warriors became OP not long after dumbfire was introduced
Warriors are not OP any more thieves necros eles engineers are way better in 1v1 atm,and guardian is more op in the blob train.
RIP OP WARRIOR they are just averages class atm
But they still wreck bad players so we get lot of QQs.
Hi , my name is Fred and I play MMORPG with over 6 years , I joined the guild wars 2 last year that I found very beautiful game and the pvp system made me so happy , I had never seen a pvp thus played Perfect World , wow , aion , everquest and tibia … throughout this journey with the online games I’ve played with all classes of these games , I know this is a forum for Guild Wars 2 and should not be commenting on other games , but wanted to highlight one thing in all these games , none of them there is a class that does what other fazem.Estou speaking warriors in GW2 , I play guardian , the guardian started because I thought he was the character who held more damage in the game , guardian is a very cool and beautiful class, but we guardians could only do one thing at a time , or we use build tank or we use zerk build , with a guardian zerk we took 15khp + – warriors with build zerk can build tank with zerk , they have a lot of life and a very good kit burst damage , they have mov.speed , they can ignore attacks by a lONG period of time , may use different types of weapons and get along with everybody, any it is feasible to build a rifle , ax , greatsword , hammer , hammer mostly , they hold the hammer like a toy, very fast attack … they can escape from it all with his mobility , and so much more that I will not talk here…Why warrior are soo ridiculous and overpower in this game?? I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHY.It makes no sense you create a class that beats all others, and that makes all the others do so better, it makes sense you do 0 damage on warrior, it makes sense to raise it after you die, it does not make sense hold the hammer like a toy, it makes sense to take it with a tank build 31khp.No fun in playing a game where one thing destroys anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfP6H-4dpI……..
I want someone to translate this please….
Können Sie jetzt verstehen?
ja, i konnte es schon zuvor verstehen, aber die leute hier wollen sich keine muehe geben jemanded der english nicht perfekt schreibt zu verstehen.
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Isle of Kickaspenwood
The thing is warriors haven’t been OP for 3-6 months. More like 8-9 mos. Warriors became OP not long after dumbfire was introduced
Ahahaha…
The thing is warriors haven’t been OP for 3-6 months. More like 8-9 mos. Warriors became OP not long after dumbfire was introduced
Ahahaha…
Dumbfire came out june last year… Healing signet got in aug with berserker stance…. Suddenly warriors were steam rolling through everything… That is more than 3-6 months because warriors were considered OP way before the beginning of this year 4mos now.
Warrior considered OP in PVE.
Thieves and eles far outdamage us.
Guardians Mesmers and engis bring far more utility.
Except anyone can sneeze on a thief or ele and kill them. Not like a warrior.
warriors are fine, this was before the crit blance, i really like how this guy play
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warriors are fine, this was before the crit blance, i really like how this guy play
This vid is less war op and.more player skill.
He fights other.similar warrior gs and hs.builds and.still wins
Also.it is wvw.so.most those targets are probable.upleved