Guild Wars 2

Delete it now, DELETE IT. Why u adding perma root into the game juhiosdafguiasf

Plz explain more..
A Ranger that has perma root?
In PvP?
In PvE?
You mean immob?

What perma root?

I think he means Entangle elite

Ptolomy.6984:

I think he means Entangle elite

+ black widow + muddy terrain

But this is only 1 condtion and easy to remove

Nerf ranger plx, perma immob perma pet

Oh kitten , that 20s immobilize on a 150s CD which can be destroyed by two autoattacks (or be blocked).

I feel so rooted.

Wait….

Just ignore what the OP said… its pure nonsense. Ranger already is uber weak as it is for a ranged profession they dont need to be nerfed even further down the path to mediocrity as the class already is mediocre without even needing one. Only way to be half uber as ranger is to run sword and only a select few even manage to master the build in the first place. Sink that topic to the abyss

If there is an area where the ranger has a broken set of abilities this would be it.
That being said, the idea that a ranger should get any worse than it is now is well. . . not what I would be advocating for.

Fix the ranger first. Then, I would agree, that a ranger can stack a LOT of immobilize. But don’t do the later until the former is done. Yes, I play ranger as one of two mains.

Immob stacking is still an issue and just because we’re dealing with the Ranger class shouldn’t necessarily mean the problem should go unfixed.

I say cut the elite down to about 30-45 second cooldown and make the root only 4 seconds. The other immobilizes I don’t see as being an issue. The spider attacks are easy to avoid (if you can keep the pet alive long enough to use them mind you) and muddy terrain is probably the only truly good utility skill the class has, but is it more powerful than earthshaker for Warriors or the Necro’s Fear wall (forgive me, can’t remember name and wiki blocked at work)?

Overall I’d hardly consider the Ranger’s ability to immobilize to be any more powerful than a Warrior’s, Thief’s, or Mesmer’s. Especially if the elite was changed.

Isn’t stacking of binary conditions already capped at x5?
If this is an issue due to 20 ticks, maybe make it so that independent of current duration, it caps at 5 times the original duration? As a game-wide change? That is, until someone adds a longer immobilize, a 20*1s immobilize cannot root you longer than 5 seconds. No matter what. Ofc, you can add another second by putting a 2s lasting one on top of that.

Aside from dodging Entangle or dps’ing the roots, here are some mechanics that effectively nullify this elite:
Invulnerability (Entangle doesn’t effect/only ticks once after invuln use)
Block (Entangle doesn’t effect/only ticks once after block use)
Stealth (Entangle’s roots lose target upon stealth, stops ticking afterwards)
Blink (Blink user leaves Entangle’s roots)
Condition clears/immunity (Removes the immob)
Blind (Entangle misfires)

Warrior has:
Block
Condition clears/immunity
Blind

Guardian has:
Invulnerability
Block
Blink
Condition clears
Blind

Engineer has:
Invulnerability
Block
Stealth
Condition clears/immunity
Blind

Thief has:
Stealth
Blink
Condition clears
Blind

Ranger has:
Block
Condition Clears

Elementalist has:
Invulnerability
Block
Blink
Condition clears/immunity
Blind

Mesmer has:
Invulnerability
Block
Stealth
Blink
Condition clears
Blind

Necromancer has:
Blink
Condition clears
Blind

Either the ranger you fought played it smart and waited for that laundry list of cooldowns to get blown before using Entangle or he got lucky. Not that I think that Entangle is useless, when timed right it can help alot. If anything, rangers, those with access to Entangle, are the most susceptible to its use.

I’m ok across the board with elites on long timers breaking rules.
Maybe ranger’s is too good. But playing with and against one, not sure.
Same reason, I am quite ok with lich form.

If anything, I would focus on making the roots faster to break if you focus your damage on them when trapped. That would create a situation where you are out of the fight for a few seconds breaking the vines. That or speed up the damage and reduce the CC.

But even as an engineer playing against a ranger, I never found this elite to be that OP versus other elites. Annoying is sort of what elites are intended to be. But it isn’t clear cut for me either!

Entangle has to be 1 of the most annoying elites in game (if playing a toon without a block or teleport). That being said, ranger does have access to a lot of immobilize, but at the cost of utility slots/ long elite or unreliable pet cc. Not forgetting the fact that any utility the ranger uses that isn’t traited for (given that 30 points are required for utilities to be good) is kinda wasted imo.

Phi Is Sly.1857:

Delete it now, DELETE IT. Why u adding perma root into the game juhiosdafguiasf

I think…

how much health do these roots even have?

OH by the way
there seems to be a bug? with roots in which you can’t attack them with ranged attacks