Guild Wars 2

This video was already shown in the ranger forum but do to the lack of “dev” presence in said forum i thought id post it here.

P.S If you allow engineers to shotgun their grenades rangers should be able to machine gun their bows. Just saying

i wasn’t aware it went anywhere. just how much crit damage do you need to hit that hard with a short bow? lmao
all i see in this video is 1oneoneone11111oneone. if that’s how you want to play ranger you’re not helping your case at all. ranger is a class that bads flock to like seagulls flock to french fries. part of the major problems rangers face are the fault of the player. although it is given that they need some serious attention.

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

How is "shotgun"ing grenades relevant to “Machine gun”ing a bow?

All the shot gunning of grenades does is use them at close range and cut out travel time because we leave no distance to travel. Bow has less travel time at close range, thus very literally does machine gun the arrows in the same manner that grenades are shot gunned. So your comparison there is irrelevant, because it is inaccurate.

Lightsbane.9012:

…lmao all i see in this video is 1oneoneone11111oneone …. part of the major problems rangers face are the fault of the player….

Ranger damage mostly comes from autoattack, apart from some skills like axe #4 and GS #2. Sooo…. whose fault is it that someone wants to play 1111111one11one1oneone1111 on ranger? Its how they work.

I don’t really miss anything in attack speed to be honest. If SB could be traited to give 1200 range with eagle eye, that would be pretty nice though.

dancingmonkey.4902:

How is "shotgun"ing grenades relevant to “Machine gun”ing a bow?

All the shot gunning of grenades does is use them at close range and cut out travel time because we leave no distance to travel. Bow has less travel time at close range, thus very literally does machine gun the arrows in the same manner that grenades are shot gunned. So your comparison there is irrelevant, because it is inaccurate.

SB machine gunning is also affected by cast time and aftercast, not hust arrow travel time.

And Eles should be able to spam fireballs…

And i want to be able to machine gun backstabs! Anet plz

Carpboy.7145:

And i want to be able to machine gun backstabs! Anet plz

When your backstabs will hit for 1k max on the squishiest of targets, you can have your machinegunbackstabs.

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

Carpboy.7145:

And i want to be able to machine gun backstabs! Anet plz

gooby pls

Lightsbane.9012:

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

How do YOU want to play a shortbow ranger then? I’m listening. Looking for input on all those godly shortbow combo shots….

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

How do YOU want to play a shortbow ranger then? I’m listening. Looking for input on all those godly shortbow combo shots….

i don’t want to play a shortbow ranger. retal/confusion>you. 90% of short bow is condi.

Lightsbane.9012:

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

How do YOU want to play a shortbow ranger then? I’m listening. Looking for input on all those godly shortbow combo shots….

i don’t want to play a shortbow ranger. retal/confusion>you. 90% of short bow is condi.

Dropping targets all the time by cloning/teleporting/stealthing>retal+confusion.

haha, that was my thread

honestly, sb is ONLY meant for condi right now, and its not that good… try using it in a zerk build? lol, 900 per hit in full zerk…

anyways, the point of reverting it back to its old speed is to actually make us stronger at range, atm, most classes can close that 900 range in a single leap skill… and all of a sudden we’re forced to switch weapons to continue fighting. with the old speed, we’d be able to kill them from afar just as fast as a warrior can shield bash and eviscerate for all of your health (again, im talking about zerk)

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

How do YOU want to play a shortbow ranger then? I’m listening. Looking for input on all those godly shortbow combo shots….

i don’t want to play a shortbow ranger. retal/confusion>you. 90% of short bow is condi.

Dropping targets all the time by cloning/teleporting/stealthing>retal+confusion.

which the ranger can’t do at all. subject switch so soon? anyway, increasing the sb speed(i honestly haven’t noticed the drop in wvw) would i guess mean bleeds are applied quicker.

The video makes it very apparent what the old shortbow used to do. It was changed early on in the game to fix some graphical issue, so if you’re new to the ranger you wouldn’t have noticed.

Absent Minded.5821:

The video makes it very apparent what the old shortbow used to do. It was changed early on in the game to fix some graphical issue, so if you’re new to the ranger you wouldn’t have noticed.

fortunately i’m not. still haven’t noticed it.

Lightsbane.9012:

fortunately i’m not. still haven’t noticed it.

Then you didn’t watch the video. I’m not going to sit here and debate a fact that the shortbow used to be faster.

Absent Minded.5821:

Lightsbane.9012:

fortunately i’m not. still haven’t noticed it.

Then you didn’t watch the video. I’m not going to sit here and debate a fact that the shortbow used to be faster.

also taking into account the Fact he was using quickening zephyr alot. if it was truly lowered, then it was to reflect the skill tooltip. or because they didn’t want thief and engineer’s pistol to be able to fire as quickly.(they shared the same 1/2 tooltip)

Ranger
Crossfire: Increased casting time by 40 milliseconds. This was done to fix some glitches in the animation that caused problems with this skill.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Update-Notes-October-7th-2012/first#post370244

Lightsbane.9012:

i wasn’t aware it went anywhere. just how much crit damage do you need to hit that hard with a short bow? lmao
all i see in this video is 1oneoneone11111oneone. if that’s how you want to play ranger you’re not helping your case at all. ranger is a class that bads flock to like seagulls flock to french fries. part of the major problems rangers face are the fault of the player. although it is given that they need some serious attention.

LOL!

You must be new here. This is how ANet designed the entire class to play for nearly every single weapon set. As to the damage, even after the Longbow damage increase, Shortbow does more damage at everything but maximum range on Longbow. It’s also the 2nd strongest weapon ANet gave the class, which isn’t saying much since it’s still half as strong as sword.

Lightsbane.9012:

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

nagymbear.5280:

Lightsbane.9012:

Casey.9687:

Hey now im just saying it needs to be returned to its original speed, i dont need a lecture on the class.

obviously that’s not true if that’s how you want to play it.

How do YOU want to play a shortbow ranger then? I’m listening. Looking for input on all those godly shortbow combo shots….

i don’t want to play a shortbow ranger. retal/confusion>you. 90% of short bow is condi.

Dropping targets all the time by cloning/teleporting/stealthing>retal+confusion.

which the ranger can’t do at all. subject switch so soon? anyway, increasing the sb speed(i honestly haven’t noticed the drop in wvw) would i guess mean bleeds are applied quicker.

The ranger also cannot have retal and confusion unless you mean perplexity runes and axe5. In which case btw its not retal and confusion that will kill you, its the reflect. I thought you meant a mesmer vs ranger matchup, and to be honest I’ve never been killed by retal on my shortbow. Confusion can suck, but you can build to have decent condi removal for that. What I meant was, that on a mesmer I’m more worried about him/her dropping the target all the time, as we don’t have bouncy arrows like thieves, and shortbow is about single target damage.

And when you say you fortunately don’t play a ranger, I know that you put in 0 effort of trying to play it like its meant to be. There have been players recently showing up on the ranger forums who were getting bored of their guard/mesmer/engie/thief and tried ranger. And guess what, some of them actually like it. Its not just 1 spam. That’s where your damage will come from, but its hardly the fault of ranger players. It is so by design.

Oh wow that pre-nerf quickness too. Probably best to not encourage pew pew Rangers to play any worse than they already are. Although my Mesmer will have a great time reflecting all that kitten back into the Ranger’s face. I remember when I downed a Ranger in WvW by just chaining a few reflects. It was depressing to watch.

Yeah, mesmer vs ranger is a tough matchup for us “survivalists”, especially on shortbow.

shortbow is one of the harder weapons to 1v1 mesmers with, I have to admit :P

the 3 skill does not evade for a long enough distance to get out of the range of like anything, like a warrior’s greatsword for example, if the warrior is moving forwards with swiftness while auto attacking and u use the 3 skill, as soon as the evade ends, he’ll still be able to hit you…

also, there aren’t any tracking/channeled skills for sb, all skills need a target so when a mesmer goes into stealth, lol… yeah.