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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

I strongly believe in unlocks.

I do not like perishable items at all when it comes to special items available only during a short time.

If the item can be acquired only once in a lifetime, and if someone hacked you or your niece could delete it while you have a bathroom emergency and left the game open, they should be an unlock instead a single perishable item.

All of the following items that are non-tradable or bound on use should have been unlocks so they are always available with any character once acquired and unlocked.
- Town clothes, both from the store and from gameplay, including the starting town clothes.
- Toys.
- Non-tradable everlasting potions.
- Non-tradable ainiatures. (The rest should remain as stacks, as they can still be acquired if lost)
- Everlasting tools. These, unlike the rest, still with a price as they let you save moneys. But once acquired an in-game vendor will have them unlocked for you in all the home instances of your account, for a small gem fee, so you can keep getting them when they are gone from the gem store.
- Special event skins.
- HoM rewards… wait, these already are! As they should, as all should!

Also, there should be a ger locker with 3 tiers of skin unlocks.
- Tier 0. Empty slot. You have yet to get the skin unlocked.
- Tier 1: Skin transfer. Can be done anytime by right clicking on an item and destroying it for the skin. This creates a level 0 account-bound item with the skin and no stats except armor or damage, that you can use with a transmutation stone to apply the skin to another item, or equip for fashion and roleplaying (but do not go adventuring with these!), or deposit it as a collectible in the PvE gear locker. This is basically to save skins for later use if you don’t want to lose them after you get new armors.
- Tier 2: Skin unlock. This tier is reached by gathering a stack high enough of those level 0 items account bound items. Instead a ‘stack slot’, the slot becomes a ‘cornucopia’ slot that keeps producing. the level 0 item with the skin no matter how many you take, like PvP upgrades in the PvP locker. You no longer need to destroy any more items for the skin, but you still need transmutation stones. The stack of items required to unlock the slot is higher the easier to get the skin is.
- Tier 3: Skin transmutter. Acquired by using a skin unlocker from the Gem Store on a slot that has at least one skin in it. You use the unlocker item, and like with a kit, you ‘apply’ it to the skin you want, and get a confirmation dialog. Accept, and the slot no longer produces an account-bound level 0 item, but a soulbound skin transmutter like the HoM ones.
This can be used in both tier 1 and 2 slots, but not tier 0 slots. So you need to have acquired that skin at least once.
- Gem store armors purchases and similar account-bound skin transmutters would generate tier 3 slots directly instead, and PvP everlasting slots instead a panel. (the HoM rewards would be changed to this system too).
Anyone who has ever purchased an armor skin in the store would get them retroactively. It would also be possible to double click the slot in the PvE locker while the item is available in the gem store to get a panel to purchase them from the gem store.
- Special ‘reservation’ slots: Sometimes you don’t have enough gems or coins to get a gem store skin that will be limited on time. Because of that, those slots would have the choice to be reserved. While the item is available, you’ll be able to double-click the slot and instead clicking ‘purchase’, click “Reserve” and pay a small gem fee, a fraction of the actual cost, to prove that you were ‘here’ while they were available, and item becomes reserved for a about 3 months. During that time, you’ll be able to double click the slot again to choose between paying the rest of the gems and get it unlocked, or cancel the reservation and get the gems back. If the time expires, the gems are refunded and the slot becomes locked until the item is available again in the gem store (if ever), so you can still preview it, but not unlock it.

Yeah. Something like that…

Wait… what were we talking about? This heat makes me digress more often than usual…

Ah, yeah. Unlocks.

Unlocks are great.

SUGGEST-A-TRON says:
PAY—ONCE—UNLOCKS—ARE—ALWAYS—BETTER.
No exceptions!

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

not sure how paying a few laurel or karma or something for the skins that you unlock is being elitist. If you have played long enough to unlock the acheivment points required for these things surely you can handle paying 10-20-30 laurel or 42.5k karma. Do realize that some of these skins are probably unlocked at 5k + achieve points. Im betting some are 10k + to give exreme people some goal. If you have put that much time in game the currencies are peanuts.

The reality is that many people are over 5k achieve points and anet isn’t just going to give free skins. They will want to you put some effort into acquiring them when Tuesday comes. Hopefully you saved some karma, laurels, gold and ecto.

Oh and to address your fears about having to buy the same skin every 5 lvls to 80. Go look in your bank and tell me how many transmutation stones you have….I got 76. YES they will work with these new skins on nooby gear just the same as they work if you have hom gear and want to save the rune when upgrading you can save the hom skin to save you a trip to the HoM.

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Posted by: SynfulChaot.3169

SynfulChaot.3169

not sure how paying a few laurel or karma or something for the skins that you unlock is being elitist. If you have played long enough to unlock the acheivment points required for these things surely you can handle paying 10-20-30 laurel or 42.5k karma. Do realize that some of these skins are probably unlocked at 5k + achieve points. Im betting some are 10k + to give exreme people some goal. If you have put that much time in game the currencies are peanuts.

The reality is that many people are over 5k achieve points and anet isn’t just going to give free skins. They will want to you put some effort into acquiring them when Tuesday comes. Hopefully you saved some karma, laurels, gold and ecto.

Oh and to address your fears about having to buy the same skin every 5 lvls to 80. Go look in your bank and tell me how many transmutation stones you have….I got 76. YES they will work with these new skins on nooby gear just the same as they work if you have hom gear and want to save the rune when upgrading you can save the hom skin to save you a trip to the HoM.

Requiring laurels would be a kick in the kitten for all of us altaholics. We’re already heavily time-gated for stats. Why time-gate us further for appearances? Ecto is already overused as currency. 50 ecto for an item on top of 40 laurels? Might as well say ’don’t even bother’. And there are already enough other gold sinks for players in the form of legendaries and the ‘pseudo-legendary’ exotics such as the Foefire weapons, and Infinite Light.

Now karma I could get behind. Requires us to play the chara and gives us something to actually spend our karma on. Because right now there isn’t much that’s worth it. Karma armors only give 3 stat sets.

And lastly, if the currencies are peanuts for people at 10k+, why unfairly punish those that are not there with currencies that are a significant investment?

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

I take exception to saying “you have to work for them now, you don’t get them for free.” Ahem. Nearly a year of play might, miiiight just count as “working for them” even if we didn’t know we were doing so at the time. And, mind you, they did say a long time ago that achievement points might one day be worth something more than simple brag rights. (Sorry, I am not sure when they said it, it was just part of the massive information flow I devoured about this game).

Anyway, it’s not for free, it’s a reward for past effort.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

not sure how paying a few laurel or karma or something for the skins that you unlock is being elitist. If you have played long enough to unlock the acheivment points required for these things surely you can handle paying 10-20-30 laurel or 42.5k karma. Do realize that some of these skins are probably unlocked at 5k + achieve points. Im betting some are 10k + to give exreme people some goal. If you have put that much time in game the currencies are peanuts.

The reality is that many people are over 5k achieve points and anet isn’t just going to give free skins. They will want to you put some effort into acquiring them when Tuesday comes. Hopefully you saved some karma, laurels, gold and ecto.

Oh and to address your fears about having to buy the same skin every 5 lvls to 80. Go look in your bank and tell me how many transmutation stones you have….I got 76. YES they will work with these new skins on nooby gear just the same as they work if you have hom gear and want to save the rune when upgrading you can save the hom skin to save you a trip to the HoM.

Yes, but how long does it take to reach 5000 ap for a regular player? I’ve around 900 hours after almost a year and I just reached 5000 ap last week. There is no reason why they need to attach a cost to use the items once they’ve been unlocked, that’s just absurd.

And I’m 100% certain the items will work like HoM as far using them goes. Where you put it on an already made item that has the stats you want. It’s not going to be an entire new item. It’s just a skin.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

I guess all we can do now is wait till Tuesday and see. I don’t really care to spend anything on them either but I just cant see there being zero cost beyond AP unlocking for some nagging reason at the back of my mind.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

I guess all we can do now is wait till Tuesday and see. I don’t really care to spend anything on them either but I just cant see there being zero cost beyond AP unlocking for some nagging reason at the back of my mind.

Probably because Anet hasn’t been very generous with rewards since the game came out. Most everything if we could actually get it just by playing required massive grind and rng.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

I’m impressed. The weapon skins are unlocked one at a time (you choose which from a list) every 1000ap and can be generated free infinite times.

For those at or above 1000ap. You get one chest every 500ap and only one chest per day. So to unlock a weapon you need to wait two days. Likely on Tuesday you will get one on the update and then at server reset Tuesday night you can unlock your first weapon.

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Posted by: FuriousPop.2789

FuriousPop.2789

I hope u r all correct in the above comments… but didnt the fotm stuff when it came out have similar wording??!?!?

Hopefully it is like the HoM system…

However now the question lies in "is it possible to get everything? "

Im under the impression that even with all ap accumulated u could only get so much. Unless it is an unlocking system to which at maxed out ap everything will be available…

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

According to dulfy’s preview, the new skins are unlimited use like HoM’s, although you can only generate a copy of each skin once per day. (Why this was done, I’m not sure. Still, waiting a few days to get enough skins for all your alts isn’t too bad.)

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Posted by: Sithaco.4673

Sithaco.4673

According to dulfy’s preview, the new skins are unlimited use like HoM’s, although you can only generate a copy of each skin once per day. (Why this was done, I’m not sure. Still, waiting a few days to get enough skins for all your alts isn’t too bad.)

nooooo nononononono I think you meant how you can only get one chest per day.