I love how all these new topics have suddenly started popping up now ever since they announced that achievement points would unlock new content. And they all basically say the same thing. They want to limit the achievement points you get from doing certain things, some even suggest removing points already gained from doing dailies and such to “make it more fair for newer players”. Such BS. Do they really think we’re that stupid? All are thinly veiled attempts for the “leet” players to stay top dog and prevent more people from getting the same shinies they have so they can feel special. You aren’t fooling anyone. If achievement points were really that important to you, you would have made these topics months ago BEFORE they announced you’d get exclusive rewards for it. You all just want to wave your kitten at everyone in town and say “i’m better than you because I have something you don’t!” And I love how all of them try to make some excuse at how it will “balance things out”. It’s fine the way it is now.
Most of the things they are suggesting are ridiculous and would actually prevent a lot of people from getting anything. I spend maybe 6 hours a day playing, most of that time spent in WvW and occasionally do a dungeon with some friends. I don’t have like 10k points like some of the people who are suggesting these asinine changes. I think i’m about 100 shy of 5k. Which is maybe 2 to 3 times more than what a lot of people I’ve seen have in WvW. Anyone can tell you the amount of points you get from doing mostly just PvP related stuff is small. You’re welcome by the way for all the bonuses you get in PvE from crap we capture in WvW.
Not only would your foolish, selfish suggestions screw over PvPers, but screw over newer players as well, even though you claim the changes you want are for the benefit of newer players who missed out on dailies. In conclusion, don’t fix what isn’t broken!
I love how all these new topics have suddenly started popping up now ever since they announced that achievement points would unlock new content. And they all basically say the same thing. They want to limit the achievement points you get from doing certain things, some even suggest removing points already gained from doing dailies and such to “make it more fair for newer players”. Such BS. Do they really think we’re that stupid? All are thinly veiled attempts for the “leet” players to stay top dog and prevent more people from getting the same shinies they have so they can feel special. You aren’t fooling anyone. If achievement points were really that important to you, you would have made these topics months ago BEFORE they announced you’d get exclusive rewards for it. You all just want to wave your kitten at everyone in town and say “i’m better than you because I have something you don’t!” And I love how all of them try to make some excuse at how it will “balance things out”. It’s fine the way it is now.
Most of the things they are suggesting are ridiculous and would actually prevent a lot of people from getting anything. I spend maybe 6 hours a day playing, most of that time spent in WvW and occasionally do a dungeon with some friends. I don’t have like 10k points like some of the people who are suggesting these asinine changes. I think i’m about 100 shy of 5k. Which is maybe 2 to 3 times more than what a lot of people I’ve seen have in WvW. Anyone can tell you the amount of points you get from doing mostly just PvP related stuff is small. You’re welcome by the way for all the bonuses you get in PvE from crap we capture in WvW.
Not only would your foolish, selfish suggestions screw over PvPers, but screw over newer players as well, even though you claim the changes you want are for the benefit of newer players who missed out on dailies. In conclusion, don’t fix what isn’t broken!
Some selfish players are speaking out just to stay atop the leaderboards, yes. But those are not the only voices. Some of us are speaking strictly of how it would pan out long-term. Just so I don’t need to repost all of that, check out some of my posts in those threads to see what I mean.
Now I realize if the points system works as it is now that PvP and WvW players would be at a disadvantage. ANet would need to revamp those achievements as well as to not unfairly punish those players. And you don’t need to say ’you’re welcome’ for the WvW rewards as if we should be grateful as PvE players. I can tell you that most all of us truly don’t care about those and wouldn’t even truly notice if they permanently disappeared. Well … aside from wondering why our stat numbers are wrong for the millionth time while gearing out a character.
suggest removing points already gained from doing dailies and such to “make it more fair for newer players”.
That was my post and it wasn’t to make it more fair for newer players, it was in response to someone at the top of a leaderboard who wanted it to be harder to get achievement points (through dailies).
I honestly still don’t really see what the big deal is. I do think that there could probably be a bigger difference in the value of dailies v. the super hard / time consuming achievements, but is it really that big of a deal? Dailies take fifteen minutes tops, just do them and you’ll keep up. PVP dailies take a bit longer since you have to play three matches, but that’s not so bad.
Love how everyones saying they wouldnt notice the lack of those bonuses.
In every kitten thread.
Remember that Orichalchum everyones been farming for ages, other materials? How shy of your number would you be if there was no boost to extra node ticks.
Or that time you barely saved you kitten in a dungeon, dangling on your 200hp limping away while crippled?
That Lupicus bolt that you didnt dodge well but still didnt remove the second half of your HP totally?
Dmg from monsters reduced anyone? How many of those CoF speedfarmers would wipe a few times due to that single more hit that could only have been obtained from a WvW boost?
Yeah, everyone saying this idiocy…. i really wish there was a way everyone’s experience would be replicated without them.
I’m neither one of the people who have made a topic about this since the update (though I DID make one before it as I think achievements are fairly meaningless with the dailies included), nor am I someone with a high achievement score.
However, I don’t see how the recent threads can be attributed to “leet” players wanting to keep shiny things to themselves for two reasons:
1) “leet” players benefit most from the daily achievements. A player at the top of the leaderboards has a ridiculous number of daily achievement points. Not just dailies, but extra criteria for dailies, plus PvP dailies. The “leet” players are the ones who suffer MOST from removing the daily achievements (excluding the players who log in every day but do literally nothing other than dailies, who really should be given reason to go elsewhere in the game anyway).
2) We have no idea what the threshold for rewards is. If the AP for a reward is 10,000 with dailies, then it simply drops to something lower without dailies. The removal of certain achievement scores only biases in favour of a certain type of player (one who has actually played multiple facets of the game and achieved things in those facets), not against casual or leet.
Love how everyones saying they wouldnt notice the lack of those bonuses.
In every kitten thread.
Remember that Orichalchum everyones been farming for ages, other materials? How shy of your number would you be if there was no boost to extra node ticks.
Or that time you barely saved you kitten in a dungeon, dangling on your 200hp limping away while crippled?
That Lupicus bolt that you didnt dodge well but still didnt remove the second half of your HP totally?
Dmg from monsters reduced anyone? How many of those CoF speedfarmers would wipe a few times due to that single more hit that could only have been obtained from a WvW boost?
Yeah, everyone saying this idiocy…. i really wish there was a way everyone’s experience would be replicated without them.
Well I personally haven’t gotten any extra gain on ori nodes from the WvW bonus, nor do I play dungeons…so you know…I really don’t think it’s that big of a deal. What helps me are guild banners and weapon/armor stats. It’s all in how you want to play the game, don’t be mad at people for thinking WvW isn’t fun or necessary.
Just because YOU werent affected doesent mean the other 99% of PvE players werent.
I likewise dont think its a big deal that we are left with our acc points intact, i also think this isnt a big deal.
Its all about how you want to play the game, dont be mad at people thinking PvE isnt fun or necessary.
Some people are claiming dailies only take 15 minutes. That’s not true. One daily and related dailies can be finished in 15 minutes. But completing all dailies in 15 depends on if Anet gives use dailies that can be completed in the same area.
My point is completing all dailies in 15 minutes, is not possible everyday. Anyone saying they can do it every day is lying.
Now on Achievements. These are not for a temporary event. They are meant to take time to unlock things.
What about achievements tied to ‘temporary content’, aren’t they kind of based on temporary events since the content is gone after a few weeks.
I’ll add a bit more to make a stronger point. Daily achievements and temporary content achievements are inherently similar in that after a certain time frame they are no longer achievable and new achievements are put in place to provide a constant stream of new activities for players.
The arguments about ap is ridiculous just do what im doing and look forward to unlocking cool stuff and by the way im not a new player been playing since beta and head start nor am i a hardcore gamer with a lot of time im just a loyal fan of gw / gw2 looking forward to some free awesome
Dailies take fifteen minutes tops, just do them and you’ll keep up.
Oh how wrong you are.
I’m ranked 6th NA for AP and i would love to see daily/ monthly AP removed, the time it takes to complete all these tasks can be anything up to 2 hours, not to say daily, monthly and living story AP making it impossible for any new player to rank on the highscores.
shrug I don’t care how I rank nationally. I am just looking forward to being rewarded with things for my time played. I’m pretty sure the helms will look terrible in Charr anyhow, but a innate boost could be nice to have.
I have 6.7k achievement points and I’ve spend hours (days?) to get them. I won’t accept any arguments about taking these points away from me only because “others didn’t do it”. I don’t even care about the leaderboards.
I don’t get it. What is it about thinking the points should not count towards rewards that has people immediately assume we want to take the points themselves away?
I’m ranked 6th NA for AP and i would love to see daily/ monthly AP removed, the time it takes to complete all these tasks can be anything up to 2 hours, not to say daily, monthly and living story AP making it impossible for any new player to rank on the highscores.
100% in agreement with this comment. I literally only log on to do dailies now and do the new content when it is released. I hate that I have spend 2 hours + to get the “Daily Achievements” (which are not achievements at all) just to stay in the top 250. If they want to reward people for doing the extra daily then give them extra karma and another 5 silver or something.
They need achievements that are actually challenging so you have to, I don’t know, achieve something!
I applaud the personal space achievement and unfriendly skies. These are the achievements we should be running towards; not kill 1000 of X. I am tried of grinding in a game that said there would be no grinding. They advertised as skill based reward all the mean while we are forced into RNG Boxes or grind 1000 of these (as in kill 50 Aetherblades in the different zones, kill the holos etc).