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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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3000 Heavy Moldy Bags
6000 Clicks..
1 Ice pack later….

I was going to type it all out but I decided to just post the info from pics. Only thing not included is the 95s 5c that came from opening the bags. So the total does not include that.

Edit:Replaced Excel capture with corrected amounts. Please let me know if anything doesn’t match up.

Edit:Fixed totals from bag purchases to reflect equivalent decimals.

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Posted by: Kruhljak.2705

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You are not a real player. Your inventory is much too empty and uncluttered with useless crap.

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Posted by: FallenTear.3710

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What’s Ice pack ?
I’ve never seen that.
But 2 giant eye =)

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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You are not a real player. Your inventory is much too empty and uncluttered with useless crap.

Lol, I cleared it to do the test. I have maxed out bank slots :P

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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What’s Ice pack ?
I’ve never seen that.
But 2 giant eye =)

For the carpel tunnel clicking 6000 times caused :P I know 2 eyes, and only 2 of those other rare items. Funny the eye is almost 1g, the other is like 15c :P

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Posted by: Solo.9027

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So you turned 97g into 109g, thats like $5 in gems of profit but now you need a new mouse! Net loss!

(just kidding, your data is appreciated)

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

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1st, something not right about the Silk scrap money total (888 × 0.08 is 71.04). I also take it that these were at the lowest selling price and not the highest sell now price at the TP.

You did seem to get “lucky” on a few of those items compared to the drop rate, even taking varying amounts per drop into consideration.

Still a loss after taking the fees into consideration.

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

Geotherma.2395

1st, something not right about the Silk scrap money total (888 × 0.08 is 71.04). I also take it that these were at the lowest selling price and not the highest sell now price at the TP.

You did seem to get “lucky” on a few of those items compared to the drop rate, even taking varying amounts per drop into consideration.

Still a loss after taking the fees into consideration.

The post wasn’t about making profit from buying-opening-selling. It was just to illustrate drop rates and show people what they can expect from opening rather than selling directly. Had I gathered 3k bags, that would be complete profit. I’ll check the math on the one thing you mentioned.

And yes based on lowest price, when I DID sell them it was not for that price.

Edit:Completely right, I hadn’t started using the actual sum function until #3. I will remove the pic and replace it with the correct one, thanks for the catch.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

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NP, and oh while you are at it, you need to format the cost total as a 0.00 as well. It can be confusing if you look at it quickly.

Thanks for the data.

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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NP, and oh while you are at it, you need to format the cost total as a 0.00 as well. It can be confusing if you look at it quickly.

Thanks for the data.

Fixed.

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Posted by: Zellax.7821

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good job.
i had done the same with 750 of these i farmed during the Orr farming week

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Posted by: SplendidDust of AncientSuns.8453

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How’s your hand feeling?

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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How’s your hand feeling?

It kinda went numb for like 15 minutes…Oh well, getten old, might as well use what i got while I can before I fall apart :P

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Posted by: carabidus.6214

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I love to see data like this! Very much appreciated!

Has anyone studied the probability of Risen dropping a heavy moldy bag? I would think the drop probability is unaffected by magic find so the results should be consistent.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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if you think clicking 6k times is bad… I had to click 25k (buying 25k beer) + 50k (using 25k beer) times to complete my “Thirst Slayer” achievement. My mouse is still working as good as before thought.

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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I have a double click set on my mouse, only half as many clicks

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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I love to see data like this! Very much appreciated!

Has anyone studied the probability of Risen dropping a heavy moldy bag? I would think the drop probability is unaffected by magic find so the results should be consistent.

I know it was increased recently, but i don’t know if anyone did the math before so that we could compare. (Actual math and proof not “its so much worse omgzxxxfdqw”) :P

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Posted by: Ensign.2189

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Figure I’ll show mine since you showed yours. Totals from 3086 Heavy Loot Bags:

Mithril Ore 1051
Silk Scrap 713
Thick Leather Section 534
Gossamer Scrap 219
Hardened Leather Section 145
Intricate Totem 142
Large Bone 150
Large Claw 164
Large Fang 129
Large Scale 154
Pile of Incandescent Dust 135
Potent Venom Sac 126
Vial of Potent Blood 144
Ancient Bone 26
Armored Scale 52
Elaborate Totem 31
Pile of Crystalline Dust 47
Powerful Venom Sac 34
Vial of Powerful Blood 44
Vicious Claw 23
Vicious Fang 36
Charged Core 4
Corrupted Core 2
Crystal Core 1
Destroyer Core 3
Glacial Core 3
Molten Core 2
Onyx Core 3
Pile of Vile Essence 2
Charged Lodestone 0
Corrupted Lodestone 2
Crystal Lodestone 0
Destroyer Lodestone 0
Glacial Lodestone 1
Molten Lodestone 2
Onyx Lodestone 1
Pile of Putrid Essence 1
Copper Coins 9833

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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Figure I’ll show mine since you showed yours. Totals from 3086 Heavy Loot Bags:

Mithril Ore 1051
Silk Scrap 713
Thick Leather Section 534
Gossamer Scrap 219
Hardened Leather Section 145
Intricate Totem 142
Large Bone 150
Large Claw 164
Large Fang 129
Large Scale 154
Pile of Incandescent Dust 135
Potent Venom Sac 126
Vial of Potent Blood 144
Ancient Bone 26
Armored Scale 52
Elaborate Totem 31
Pile of Crystalline Dust 47
Powerful Venom Sac 34
Vial of Powerful Blood 44
Vicious Claw 23
Vicious Fang 36
Charged Core 4
Corrupted Core 2
Crystal Core 1
Destroyer Core 3
Glacial Core 3
Molten Core 2
Onyx Core 3
Pile of Vile Essence 2
Charged Lodestone 0
Corrupted Lodestone 2
Crystal Lodestone 0
Destroyer Lodestone 0
Glacial Lodestone 1
Molten Lodestone 2
Onyx Lodestone 1
Pile of Putrid Essence 1
Copper Coins 9833

How did you get lodestones and mithril ore?
Edit:Ah nvm, Heavy “Loot” Bags, I was confused a second :P

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Posted by: Milennin.4825

Milennin.4825

Btw, instead of clicking, use mouse keys instead. The + key counts as a double click, would have saved you half the total amount of clicks.

Just who the hell do you think I am!?

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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Btw, instead of clicking, use mouse keys instead. The + key counts as a double click, would have saved you half the total amount of clicks.

Next time I open thousands of something I shall remember this :P They have blackberry thumb, soon there will be guild wars finger. ^^

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Posted by: FallenTear.3710

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Can I use any soft for " clicking " ?
I mean how terrible for this while open exotic kama n bag =.=

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Posted by: NibriAyid.3680

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Thanks for posting the drop rate results!

Can I use any soft for " clicking " ?
I mean how terrible for this while open exotic kama n bag =.=

If you have a “gaming” type of keyboard or mouse you can program a macro to spam the left mouse button. You can set a macro that’s a single left-click and set it to repeat. (Looks like Razer and Logitech have that option, I’m sure others would too.)

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Posted by: Merlinside.5674

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Can I use any soft for " clicking " ?
I mean how terrible for this while open exotic kama n bag =.=

There are a few auto-clicker programs that makes your wheel button virtualize as left click. Its about 100 ckicks/ seconds hold wheel. So those bags would be only 30 secs

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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I went to see the prices and did about 500 loot bags this weekend. A loss of about 2g, if i were to sell all the t6, lodestones, cores…

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

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…and there goes the market.

Well done OP ¬_¬

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Posted by: TryGoogleThis.9570

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Well for those of us that made a fair share of gold using this, had bothered to spend 2 mins on downloading rscilent for autoclick at 0,1 millisecond, kinda speeds it up.

eitherway with rise most of us already left this due to the fees you have on postings(which most people wont take in count) so now the bags will rise even more and have zero profit for anyone, So OP you got a lot of bags you wish to sell for a good price in bank and wanted a rise of prices?

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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Well for those of us that made a fair share of gold using this, had bothered to spend 2 mins on downloading rscilent for autoclick at 0,1 millisecond, kinda speeds it up.

eitherway with rise most of us already left this due to the fees you have on postings(which most people wont take in count) so now the bags will rise even more and have zero profit for anyone, So OP you got a lot of bags you wish to sell for a good price in bank and wanted a rise of prices?

Nope (see my BLSK vs MSK thread), I seen people saying that they did not know whether to sell bags or open. By supplying an idea of what drops and the costs people can make better informed decisions. I’m not here to play the TP, I bought every one of those bags just for this purpose, not to make money. I did the same with MSK’s full knowing that my end result would mean i was losing tons of gold just to help the community see that BLSK had a better drop rate for ectos. Whether is rises or falls is not up to me, it will equal out again. But now people can have an idea of what they should do with their farmed bags, and know what they are potentially losing/gaining from either course of action. As always i try to keep my research as unbiased as possible. PS I sold all the mats just minutes after opening at lowest price, I don’t care much about gold, that is the easy part.

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Posted by: Tankzilla.7052

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From time to time I feel like gambling a bit with bags. Bought some 7500 bags. Bound double click to a “frictionless” scroll down. It was a breeze. I didn’t make any profit, but that’s hardly a shock

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Posted by: Solo.9027

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I was bored so I calculated the percentages of tiers of loot dropping based on OP’s data.

% chance of T6-10.73%
% chance of T5-35.95%
% chance of Trash-52.06%
% chance of other-1.26%

The ‘other’ group obviously relates to the prefix on the bag opened(like lodestones from miner’s etc..).
The ‘trash’ group is named thus because of the negligible relative values because they are so common and found elsewhere, it includes T5&6 silk and leather.

I know the numbers probably seem skewed but that is because we don’t have data on how many of each came from every bag. Considering DR kicks in after as little as 30 minutes I wonder if we can extract the intended rate of attainment of this stuff that Anet planned for us? Maybe that info would alleviate some of the whining over legendary weapon difficulty and other general loot concerns.

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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I was bored so I calculated the percentages of tiers of loot dropping based on OP’s data.

% chance of T6-10.73%
% chance of T5-35.95%
% chance of Trash-52.06%
% chance of other-1.26%

The ‘other’ group obviously relates to the prefix on the bag opened(like lodestones from miner’s etc..).
The ‘trash’ group is named thus because of the negligible relative values because they are so common and found elsewhere, it includes T5&6 silk and leather.

I know the numbers probably seem skewed but that is because we don’t have data on how many of each came from every bag. Considering DR kicks in after as little as 30 minutes I wonder if we can extract the intended rate of attainment of this stuff that Anet planned for us? Maybe that info would alleviate some of the whining over legendary weapon difficulty and other general loot concerns.

I would have done those “every bag” info but that would have cause me to lose my hand/arm :P I do have the video recorded but it is very..very… long and thats like a week of watching and pausing at the fastest possible lol

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Posted by: Arganthium.5638

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You are not a real player. Your inventory is much too empty and uncluttered with useless crap.

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Posted by: Arganthium.5638

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…and there goes the market.

Well done OP ¬_¬

Lol.

Only the 1235401978264th time he’s done this, in all honesty.

Did it with ectos too.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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Geotherma spends some crazy amounts of money ($) buying gems though, so I appreciate the research he does on our behalf.

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Posted by: Yumiko Ishida.3769

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GW2 wiki needs this info.

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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There’s a pretty large sample size up there already http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Heavy_Moldy_Bag/Drop_rate.

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

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This one “50,040” just seems off to me lol. Although it could be because the users name shows up on a multiboxing program website via google, or could just be that I feel my hand would fall off at that point.

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