Guild Wars 2

Earlier today I created a post discussing how the permanent Captain’s Airship Pass should be made into a consumable which creates a UI option somewhere in the Hero tab. I would like to extend that idea to most account bound “convenience” items.

For instance, all account bound gathering tools should be bought as a consumable and then once consumed, the slots on ALL of your toons, before and after purchase, where these gathering tools are placed should have some sort of thumbnail-esque picture indicating you have purchased the ab gathering tool. Nothing would need to change other then the inconvenience of having to continually switch back and forth from character to character, placing ab gemstore “convenience” items into your bank for another character to retrieve that item.

I would also like to see this kind of innovation with ab items such as the “salv 0 matic”. Why not put a salv 0 matic icon somewhere on the inventory/bag window? It doesn’t have to be a large button click icon, just large enough for the person to click it when they need to salvage an item.

These are ideas I believe anet could be looking into to improve their gemstore ab items. If you sell them as convenience items then lets make them convenient. “Just purchase another of the same ab ‘convenience’ item”, won’t do as a solution. Sorry.

If you want to use the same item on multiple characters, simply buy duplicates for each one. Or, if you don’t want to spend the money, just transfer the item via your Bank.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

If you want to use the same item on multiple characters, simply buy duplicates for each one. Or, if you don’t want to spend the money, just transfer the item via your Bank.

I really wish, Penguin, that you would read my posts instead of just responding to them. This is the second time today you’ve just thrown out a “creative solution” w/o, obviously, reading what I wrote.

Your “creative solutions” are the inherent problems w/the AB ‘convenience’ items. Why on earth, would I buy duplicates of an ACCOUNT BOUND item? Please think before you post. Thank you.

siralius.9517:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

If you want to use the same item on multiple characters, simply buy duplicates for each one. Or, if you don’t want to spend the money, just transfer the item via your Bank.

I really wish, Penguin, that you would read my posts instead of just responding to them. This is the second time today you’ve just thrown out a “creative solution” w/o, obviously, reading what I wrote.

You want the following:

Buy Gem Store item once = usable on all characters via easy button.

I’m telling you the following:

1) Buy multiple of the same item to avoid transferring between characters
or
2) Buy one item, and transfer them between characters (if it’s account bound) to save money

Edit – You’re paying for an item that provides a “convenience”. These items are useable on all characters, but you must make the effort to transfer them back and forth if you don’t want to buy multiples. For “more convenience”, you can buy more, thus saving you time.

Edit 2 – All items are working as intended.

From ArenaNet’s PoV, they would see this as a minor inconvenience to you vs as profit loss for them. People buy multiple copies to get around this. If they were to make it an unlock without any downsides, ArenaNet would have to offer refunds to these people as well as lose future profits.

The closest compromise would be an account wide bag slot to store these items in.

Personally, I think these items, including skins, should be unlocks, and stuff like boosters and minis should also be accessible through the UI, but I doubt it’ll ever happen.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

siralius.9517:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

If you want to use the same item on multiple characters, simply buy duplicates for each one. Or, if you don’t want to spend the money, just transfer the item via your Bank.

I really wish, Penguin, that you would read my posts instead of just responding to them. This is the second time today you’ve just thrown out a “creative solution” w/o, obviously, reading what I wrote.

You want the following:

Buy Gem Store item once = usable on all characters via easy button.

I’m telling you the following:

1) Buy multiple of the same item to avoid transferring between characters
or
2) Buy one item, and transfer them between characters (if it’s account bound) to save money

You call what I have suggested, “easy buttons”? Is this a joke? These are ACCOUNT BOUND “CONVENIENCE” ITEMS we’re talking about…
The implementation Anet has for these items defeats the purpose of them, as well as your “solutions”.
Do you honestly think I have overlooked what you call a “solution”? My post is a way to make these items better. Stop trolling.

I think the point is some people actually bought multiple copies of account bound item.

So in the end, for Anet point of view is weather they’ll make more money from people buying multiple items for different character or more people willing to buy items once because they can use it on multiple character.

Healix.5819:

From ArenaNet’s PoV, they would see this as a minor inconvenience to you vs as profit loss for them. People buy multiple copies to get around this. If they were to make it an unlock without any downsides, ArenaNet would have to offer refunds to these people as well as lose future profits.

The closest compromise would be an account wide bag slot to store these items in.

Personally, I think these items, including skins, should be unlocks, and stuff like boosters and minis should also be accessible through the UI, but I doubt it’ll ever happen.

Indeed. Microtransactions are the bread and butter for Anet. With no subscription fees, we get a great game with optional cash shop purchases. If a player wants something that provides more conveniences, options are available. That person then makes the choice of how convenient they want to make the game. More conveniences = spending more money. It’s a great business strategy.

siralius.9517:

You call what I have suggested, “easy buttons”? Is this a joke? These are ACCOUNT BOUND “CONVENIENCE” ITEMS we’re talking about…

They are indeed Account Bound, so you can put them into your Bank, and transfer them between characters. If that’s too inconvenient for you, you have the option of purchasing more. Many players have done this.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Healix.5819:

From ArenaNet’s PoV, they would see this as a minor inconvenience to you vs as profit loss for them. People buy multiple copies to get around this. If they were to make it an unlock without any downsides, ArenaNet would have to offer refunds to these people as well as lose future profits.

The closest compromise would be an account wide bag slot to store these items in.

Personally, I think these items, including skins, should be unlocks, and stuff like boosters and minis should also be accessible through the UI, but I doubt it’ll ever happen.

Indeed. Microtransactions are the bread and butter for Anet. With no subscription fees, we get a great game with optional cash shop purchases. If a player wants something that provides more conveniences, options are available. That person then makes the choice of how convenient they want to make the game. More conveniences = spending more money. It’s a great business strategy.

siralius.9517:

You call what I have suggested, “easy buttons”? Is this a joke? These are ACCOUNT BOUND “CONVENIENCE” ITEMS we’re talking about…

They are indeed Account Bound, so you can put them into your Bank, and transfer them between characters. If that’s too inconvenient for you, you have the option of purchasing more. Many players have done this.

Not really a great business strategy when I think the ab items are not worth getting anymore. To buy duplicates of an ab item makes zero sense and defeats the purpose of that item being ab.

laokoko.7403:

I think the point is some people actually bought multiple copies of account bound item.

So in the end, for Anet point of view is weather they’ll make more money from people buying multiple items for different character or more people willing to buy items once because they can use it on multiple character.

This argument is ridiculous. I was one of those ppl who bought soulbound gathering tools. Should I be refunded now? Was there a refund for those?

siralius.9517:

Not really a great business strategy when I think the ab items are not worth getting anymore. To buy duplicates of an ab item makes zero sense and defeats the purpose of that item being ab.

You’re entitled to your opinions on what’s worth getting, and what’s not. I’m explaining things to you from a business perspective. If you want something that adds convenience, but it’s not required, you have the option of buying it. If you want more conveniences, there are options too. Anet knows this, and provides you what you want. The cost is in Gems, so you can spend real money, or in-game Gold to get them. And the more convenient way to get Gems quickly is to buy them with your creditcard. I know this, because I’ve bought many many many Gems.

siralius.9517:

laokoko.7403:

I think the point is some people actually bought multiple copies of account bound item.

So in the end, for Anet point of view is weather they’ll make more money from people buying multiple items for different character or more people willing to buy items once because they can use it on multiple character.

This argument is ridiculous. I was one of those ppl who bought soulbound gathering tools. Should I be refunded now? Was there a refund for those?

There was a refund for those who bought multiple mining items once the change was made from Soul Bound to Account Bound. If they made it so there’s an easy access for a mining tool to be use on all characters without swapping, there’d be more refunds for those who purchased multiple Account Bound tools. But I highly doubt that account wide access to the tools will ever occur.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

siralius.9517:

Not really a great business strategy when I think the ab items are not worth getting anymore. To buy duplicates of an ab item makes zero sense and defeats the purpose of that item being ab.

You’re entitled to your opinions on what’s worth getting, and what’s not. I’m explaining things to you from a business perspective. If you want something that adds convenience, but it’s not required, you have the option of buying it. If you want more conveniences, there are options too. Anet knows this, and provides you what you want. The cost is in Gems, so you can spend real money, or in-game Gold to get them. And the more convenient way to get Gems quickly is to buy them with your creditcard. I know this, because I’ve bought many many many Gems.

siralius.9517:

laokoko.7403:

I think the point is some people actually bought multiple copies of account bound item.

So in the end, for Anet point of view is weather they’ll make more money from people buying multiple items for different character or more people willing to buy items once because they can use it on multiple character.

This argument is ridiculous. I was one of those ppl who bought soulbound gathering tools. Should I be refunded now? Was there a refund for those?

There was a refund for those who bought multiple mining items once the change was made from Soul Bound to Account Bound. If they made it so there’s an easy access for a mining tool to be use on all characters without swapping, there’d be more refunds for those who purchased multiple Account Bound tools. But I highly doubt that account wide access to the tools will ever occur.

Well then, I wasn’t made aware of this because I have 4 soul bound gathering tools on two different characters that I was never refunded for.

The watchwork mining tool is actually amazing useful. Probably because I mine all day. I actually go to the bank when I swap alt and pick it up.

siralius.9517:

Well then, I wasn’t made aware of this because I have 4 soul bound gathering tools on two different characters that I was never refunded for.

I suggest submitting a ticket to request a refund for 3 of the duplicates you don’t need. But first, go see one of the Black Lion Trading agents (forgot which one) to convert a single tool into an Account Bound one.

You can get refund on duplicate soul bound tool.

For example if you have a molten alliance mining pick on your guardian and warrior. They can refund the one on your warrior. Just send a mail and follow the step.

I don’t think they give refund on duplicate that are already account bound though (watchwork pick or pass).

I like the items as they are. In inventory. There’s this feel of preparing for a journey when I choose what items I want to bring with me today.

Traced.3495:

I like the items as they are. In inventory. There’s this feel of preparing for a journey when I choose what items I want to bring with me today.

Really? I don’t think going to your bank to pick up a mining pick and axe adds to the adventure whatsoever. I wonder though, where are posters like you and “easy-button” penguin when ppl are on this forum talking about how they don’t want levels in an MMO? Or when ppl post about how they think Dailies are too demanding?
Now, we are talking about “convenience” gemstore items and all of a sudden we have posters like you and penguin that think innovations to gemstore items take away from the “adventure” and promote casual game play. It’s funny, really.