Guild Wars 2

As far as I’m aware, it’s impossible to sell an item for less than the current highest bid on that item. You can set a minimum price, but if the minimum is lower than the current highest bid then it will just sell to the highest bid anyway.

The first picture has two transactions highlighted, both the same item part of the same order. The second picture is the current list of buy orders for this item. I had 3 orders in for 1.4210g, I received one of the items, and I also received 1.4208g with it!

I would love to know what the seller received…

lol wow. How did this happen?

I feel like I’ve inadvertently scammed some poor kitten. I suppose the error could be on the TP end though and that we both received the gold?

This was a change before the new TP to mess with those trying to take advantage of a posting fee bug. You see there was a “bug” that you could significantly reduce the posting fee yet still sell it to the high bidder.

Let’s say that the high bid was 1g. Normally you would pay a five silver posting fee but if instead you set your price to 20c you would have paid 1c to post, it would have been sold to the 1g buyer and the seller would get 90s yet cost him 1c to post.

The “fix” was now the seller would still pay 1c to post but now would only get 18c while the buyer gets the item and a 99s80c refund.

That makes sense Behellagh however when I tried to do a similar thing (with an item worth less of course) I received a message saying I could only sell to the highest bidder. The minimum price changes, but the actual sell price and the posting fee match the highest bidder. When I sold it, I received the correct amount as if I had sold to the highest bidder.

So bearing in mind this happened just a few hours ago I’m not sure if that explains it.

Amurond.4590:

I feel like I’ve inadvertently scammed some poor kitten. I suppose the error could be on the TP end though and that we both received the gold?

My bet is that both received the gold.

This is nothing though. Right after this change was made, people who didn’t read the patch notes thoroughly, continued on with their ‘tax evasion’ schemes. This resulted in one guy getting Chaos Pistol for 10s. Another guy picked The Lover for something like 11s99c. BL skins going for 2-5s. I can just imagine the tears, knowing you can’t report a fix to your own exploitation as a ‘Bug’. I can just see JS cheesing as he read through some of the posts following that patch.

Haha thats quite amusing I didn’t even know such bug existed

They “forgot” to put it on the patch notes for a few hours after the patch hit.

Well since these people have willingly tried to exploit a bug that they benefited from before and saved money, I don’t feel bad for them. Everyone knows that not every single tiny change is put in the patch notes, or if it gets introduced in between patches sometimes it doesn’t get mentioned, but that’s ok its a good change and they sorted it in the end.

John Smith.4610:

Let’s say someone has final rest. If they put it up to sell for 1 gold, they get 1 gold. The highest buyer pays 1g to him and received the rest of his buy order back. This person sold the item for 2c, so you receive the item plus your buy order – 2c.

I understand how I’ve received the money I did, but I’m still a bit confused about what the seller has received though. When I try to replicate this as the seller, I get all the money as if I had sold it to the highest bidder for that price?

Eg. I try to sell a black lion chest for 3 copper. The highest bid is 30 copper. I received 27 copper (after exchange fees). I’m struggling to understand how this trade circumvented automatically selling for the highest bidder price since the patch.

Isn’t it impossible to try and sell an item for a price lower than the highest bidder now? This only happened yesterday.

I feel like I must be missing something obvious!

Type in the price you want instead of clicking?

Amurond.4590:

John Smith.4610:

Let’s say someone has final rest. If they put it up to sell for 1 gold, they get 1 gold. The highest buyer pays 1g to him and received the rest of his buy order back. This person sold the item for 2c, so you receive the item plus your buy order – 2c.

I understand how I’ve received the money I did, but I’m still a bit confused about what the seller has received though. When I try to replicate this as the seller, I get all the money as if I had sold it to the highest bidder for that price?

Eg. I try to sell a black lion chest for 3 copper. The highest bid is 30 copper. I received 27 copper (after exchange fees). I’m struggling to understand how this trade circumvented automatically selling for the highest bidder price since the patch.

Isn’t it impossible to try and sell an item for a price lower than the highest bidder now? This only happened yesterday.

I feel like I must be missing something obvious!

The person that has the highest bid always gets the item.
The seller always gets the amount of gold he determines via the input panel minus fees and taxes.

Item A has a highest bid of 10g from player A.
Player B sells Item A for 1g directly.
Player B pays 5s listing fee and receives 90s in his pick up tab.
Player A gets Item A in the pick up tab and 9g, which is a refund from the gold he deposited when he posted his 10g bid.

Amurond.4590:

Isn’t it impossible to try and sell an item for a price lower than the highest bidder now? This only happened yesterday.

I feel like I must be missing something obvious!

I accidentally did this the other day. It happens if you hit ‘sell’ on an item before the TP loads the price data.

That is, in my case, I was selling a black lion chest, I right clicked it in inventory to sell, and hit sell on the TP interface before it had finished loading. It took my chest and sold it for 2c.

Once the price data finishes loading it behaves as you describe. Take it as a warning not to jump the gun (or, for A.Net, to decide if they want to fix this behavior).

Esplen.3940:

Type in the price you want instead of clicking?

As I’ve said a few times, I cannot see a way to do this without it defaulting to the highest bidder price.

Wanze.8410:

Item A has a highest bid of 10g from player A.
Player B sells Item A for 1g directly.
Player B pays 5s listing fee and receives 90s in his pick up tab.
Player A gets Item A in the pick up tab and 9g, which is a refund from the gold he deposited when he posted his 10g bid.

I understand how it works in theory.

But have you actually tried to do this on a lower priced item? It does not work like that.

It will not allow you to sell for anything less than the highest bidder price – it defaults to that price.

Ensign.2189:

I accidentally did this the other day. It happens if you hit ‘sell’ on an item before the TP loads the price data.

That is, in my case, I was selling a black lion chest, I right clicked it in inventory to sell, and hit sell on the TP interface before it had finished loading. It took my chest and sold it for 2c.

Once the price data finishes loading it behaves as you describe. Take it as a warning not to jump the gun (or, for A.Net, to decide if they want to fix this behavior).

Okay, this makes sense. So it’s something that can only be circumvented by selling it before the TP has loaded properly.

Tman.6349:

This is nothing though. Right after this change was made, people who didn’t read the patch notes thoroughly, continued on with their ‘tax evasion’ schemes. This resulted in one guy getting Chaos Pistol for 10s. Another guy picked The Lover for something like 11s99c. BL skins going for 2-5s. I can just imagine the tears, knowing you can’t report a fix to your own exploitation as a ‘Bug’. I can just see JS cheesing as he read through some of the posts following that patch.

Didn’t know this bug, but I’m laughing tears right now. ;D