Guild Wars 2

So I looked at the copper-fed salvage-o-matic and was absolutely mortified at Arenanet’s decision making on this one. It only counts as a basic salvage kit, and does not recover weapon or armor upgrades (nearly as useful as a crude salvage kit)

Copper-fed Salvage-o-matic: 800 gems = 31g12s
Cost per use: 3c

Basic Salvage Kit: 88c
Cost per use: 3.52c (88c/25 uses)

Right off the bat, you can tell that this is a bad deal. 0.52 copper per use better with the salvage-o-matic compared to the basic salvage kit?

Then, if we calculate the cost of the salvage-o-matic with money traded as gems (using current values), the salvage-o-matic costs 31g12s. In order to make up that difference by salvage uses alone, you would need to salvage nearly 600,000 items to make up the money lost by buying this thing. The only “benefit” is that it never breaks, which is a pretty mild benefit.

Heroes of today are busy; they’re always on the move and always looking for innovative ways to save on time and money.

Riiiiiight.

TL; DR: ArenaNet, what were you thinking? How is this a deal worth buying? Even the convenience factor doesn’t compare — I’d rather have 10 basic salvage kits sitting in my inventory than spend 31g or $10 for this.

It is the same story with all the endless tools. You dont buy them for saving money but for never having to worry about running out of the item.

It’s a convenience item, nothing more. Just because it’s not worth it to you, doesn’t mean that many people didn’t buy it.

What’s that point of this thread?

Well at least the other tools actually have skins/animations, so, although they are only slight conveniences and will likely never end up saving you money, they look cool and you can enjoy that and show them off.

Does the Salvage-o-matic show something like your character pulling out the machine and fiddling with it when you salvage something?

No, it doesn’t come with animations, but it does come with sound effects which in my book is an acceptable substitute. Only the player using it can hear them, but the kit speaks a while range of pre-recorded sentences when selvaging.

I rather enjoy them.

hehe, an animation would of made sales of this item tenfold what they are now. I can imagine it now: every time you salvage something with it, your character whips out a mini top-fed wood chipper, then drops little packages in it and bricks come out the bottom.
There would probably be a over-salvaging problem, where people buy all the whites, blues, greens, and salvageable scraps below 10s and salvage them on StoneMist wall above an enemy zerg.

To me this item is not of much interest. I very rarely run out of bagspace and “have” to salvage something and just run out of my 25 stack of basic ones. Granted, I have to visit my bank anyways every once in a while since I don’t have a permanent contract, but this item does not totally replace the need for other kits (of higher quality) so I will always have some of those as well.

The gathering tools are a convenience because I have run out of them and it just makes me grrr standing in front of a node and have to leave with empty hands

Maybe I’ll change my mind once we will break down blues etc for MF, we’ll see.

Rouven.7409:

Maybe I’ll change my mind once we will break down blues etc for MF, we’ll see.

But we don’t know if it will still be for sale by then. Also we don’t know if using a mystic salvage kit will give better chances of getting the MF consumables and if it does a bunch of us can make a lot of mystic kits thanks to all of the forge stones. The MF update could make this item “pointless”

I’m foreseeing that there could be more unlimited salvage kits coming in… like the name could be Silver-Fed Salvage-o-Matic and Gold-Fed Salvage-o-Matic that you need to spend 2 silvers and 1 gold respectively to use to recover the rarer materials and upgrades, with higher percentage of success.

Or they might introduce the remaining unlimited salvage kit based on the current available tiers of normal salvage kits that we have but different amount of percentage of recovering rarer materials and upgrades, and each would spend more coppers per usage.

We never know… but look forward to Gem Store!

alot of things don’t make sense. I bought one for fun and giggle.

It’s really just for convenience and fluff. If things are made too useful, people’ll just call it pay 2 win. Not good for GW2 fanbase.

Vagrant.7206:

So I looked at the copper-fed salvage-o-matic and was absolutely mortified at Arenanet’s decision making on this one. It only counts as a basic salvage kit, and does not recover weapon or armor upgrades (nearly as useful as a crude salvage kit)

Copper-fed Salvage-o-matic: 800 gems = 31g12s
Cost per use: 3c

Basic Salvage Kit: 88c
Cost per use: 3.52c (88c/25 uses)

Right off the bat, you can tell that this is a bad deal. 0.52 copper per use better with the salvage-o-matic compared to the basic salvage kit?

Then, if we calculate the cost of the salvage-o-matic with money traded as gems (using current values), the salvage-o-matic costs 31g12s. In order to make up that difference by salvage uses alone, you would need to salvage nearly 600,000 items to make up the money lost by buying this thing. The only “benefit” is that it never breaks, which is a pretty mild benefit.

Heroes of today are busy; they’re always on the move and always looking for innovative ways to save on time and money.

Riiiiiight.

TL; DR: ArenaNet, what were you thinking? How is this a deal worth buying? Even the convenience factor doesn’t compare — I’d rather have 10 basic salvage kits sitting in my inventory than spend 31g or $10 for this.

It is a luxury item that players with gold/money can get. The cost per salvage is slightly cheaper than a basic salvage kit and has the same effect. As for it paying for itself, players who make money off of salvage(like me) tend to make an average of 10-20c per salvage. For me it will pay for itself in 2weeks. It save time since you do not have to click multiple salvage kits.

Ulion.5476:

Vagrant.7206:

So I looked at the copper-fed salvage-o-matic and was absolutely mortified at Arenanet’s decision making on this one. It only counts as a basic salvage kit, and does not recover weapon or armor upgrades (nearly as useful as a crude salvage kit)

Copper-fed Salvage-o-matic: 800 gems = 31g12s
Cost per use: 3c

Basic Salvage Kit: 88c
Cost per use: 3.52c (88c/25 uses)

Right off the bat, you can tell that this is a bad deal. 0.52 copper per use better with the salvage-o-matic compared to the basic salvage kit?

Then, if we calculate the cost of the salvage-o-matic with money traded as gems (using current values), the salvage-o-matic costs 31g12s. In order to make up that difference by salvage uses alone, you would need to salvage nearly 600,000 items to make up the money lost by buying this thing. The only “benefit” is that it never breaks, which is a pretty mild benefit.

Heroes of today are busy; they’re always on the move and always looking for innovative ways to save on time and money.

Riiiiiight.

TL; DR: ArenaNet, what were you thinking? How is this a deal worth buying? Even the convenience factor doesn’t compare — I’d rather have 10 basic salvage kits sitting in my inventory than spend 31g or $10 for this.

It is a luxury item that players with gold/money can get. The cost per salvage is slightly cheaper than a basic salvage kit and has the same effect. As for it paying for itself, players who make money off of salvage(like me) tend to make an average of 10-20c per salvage. For me it will pay for itself in 2weeks. It save time since you do not have to click multiple salvage kits.

Nice, 600k~salvages in 2 weeks. You know, it doesn’t pay itself back in 10-20c per salvage but that 0.52 per salvage. Unless, ofcourse, you’d have NOT salvaged those items otherwise.

This being said and bragged, I’ve atm 3,632,665 salvages under my belt in bit under year which should mean 300k~salvages a month. Payback time would be around 2 months Then again, time saved with salvage-o-tron is big factor that I haven’t counted in copper. That’s the real saving you get – time.

Articluna.4509:

This being said and bragged, I’ve atm 3,632,665 salvages under my belt in bit under year which should mean 300k~salvages a month. Payback time would be around 2 months Then again, time saved with salvage-o-tron is big factor that I haven’t counted in copper. That’s the real saving you get – time.

Nevermind the mouse, if I tried to do that my finger would fall off.

Note to self: Invest in companies that manufacture wrist braces and pain relief meds. Several million cases of carpel tunnel syndrome incoming.

tolunart.2095:

Nevermind the mouse, if I tried to do that my finger would fall off.

Note to self: Invest in companies that manufacture wrist braces and pain relief meds. Several million cases of carpel tunnel syndrome incoming.

I murdered only one mouse. Another one retired to care of my wife and is still alive and somewhat kicking.

Articluna.4509:

Nice, 600k~salvages in 2 weeks. You know, it doesn’t pay itself back in 10-20c per salvage but that 0.52 per salvage. Unless, ofcourse, you’d have NOT salvaged those items otherwise.

This being said and bragged, I’ve atm 3,632,665 salvages under my belt in bit under year which should mean 300k~salvages a month. Payback time would be around 2 months Then again, time saved with salvage-o-tron is big factor that I haven’t counted in copper. That’s the real saving you get – time.

Yes I really took into account the time saved factor and did not talk about it. Since I was not sure of the exact amount of extra items I could salvage per hour. It is something like a 20-25% increase in the amount of items I can salvage now. The time save is why I was saying it would pay for itself in 2weeks. It is an increase in profit per hour, assuming I have the supplies to salvage.

Hawk.3574:

It is the same story with all the endless tools. You dont buy them for saving money but for never having to worry about running out of the item.

At least with the endless tools, you can use them on the highest nodes released and have the same fair chance are recovering bonus mats.

With the inf salve machine, you are stuck at a basic level salvage kit which would not wield the same results as a Master, Mystic, or black lion kits.

I bought the Endless tools for a couple of reasons:
1) They look awesome (you covered this)
2) They are the highest tier (no need to invest in Black Lion Chests for tools or laurel tools).
3) Anet already stated that they will work on all future nodes added to the game

What they did right with this one is that it’s accountbound and not soulbound.
I happily forked out 800 gems for it, and I pass it along to my characters as I play, never having to worry about salvaging.

If the tools had been the same, I would have bought them too, but alas they were soulbound and completely not worth it for me.

Do people actually USE basic salvage kits after level 20 or so?

I don’t think I ever use lower that the green rarity kit and I use at least the yellow kit on anything that could drop an ectoplasm.

Nike.2631:

Do people actually USE basic salvage kits after level 20 or so?

I don’t think I ever use lower that the green rarity kit and I use at least the yellow kit on anything that could drop an ectoplasm.

Crudes are very cost-efficient for whites and salvageables. Before Lionguard Lyns, I used Crudes on blues, whites and salvageables. After her, I started using the 250 kits because I was tired of carrying 10+crude kits. It saved me a lot of money, though.

Odd. For high level salvageables, the orichalcum, gossamer, or hardened leather is petty much the only outcome I care about, so using anything less that a green kit seems like a wasted opportunity.

I’m using the 250 stack kits also, but if the infinite salvager acted like a kit I’d actually use, I might have considered buying one. As it stands, I’ll pay the extra coin to play the odds I prefer.

Only 10% chance to recover rare materials, still costs 3 copper per use, has an annoying robot voice instead of a nifty animation.

Think I’ll save my 800 gems for something else

I just wish we could get a sneak peak at the new magic find system. If kit quality wouldn’t be a factor, I’d say this is a great long term investment.

But if mystic kits will give a higher chance for the magic find consumable (since nothing has been revealed about it yet, you can pretty much speculate anything; a very rare drop that is a permanent 0.0X% boost or a common drop that provides a timed 0.X% bonus that can stack a bunch of times) this kit will be completely useless. A lot of us have 100 mystic forge stones thanks to the achievement chests, so it’d take a long time to run out.

The “copper” is probably just the first version available on the TP. I’ll wager there will be newer versions like “iron”, “platinum”, etc. — each one emulating one of the existing salvage kits (just an unlimited version).