Crafted agony infusions strangeness??

Crafted agony infusions strangeness??

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Posted by: Jia Shen.4217

Jia Shen.4217

So I was looking at these today out of curiousity. And I observered something really strange. As you go up the ladder of +X the cost to make is greater than the cost they sell for based on the lowest sell offer. And you got to be nuts if anyone is selling them to the highest buy offers. When you get all the way up to +14 the cost to make is just over 936 gold. Based on the lowest seller at the time of posting this that is a 300 gold loss after TP fees and to sell to the highest buy offer would be a loss of 681 gold. My mind is spinning without even bothering to calculate the loss someone else would have to take selling someone two +13 to break even selling one +14 at the highest buy offer. Call me perplexed since it is obvious that it +6 and higher driving the market of +1 price; due to people making them to to lose like 30% of what they spent to make and nobody would spend 30% more to craft them to use when they can buy them from those taking the loss. This has me wondering what – IS – driving the market for the price of the +1 to be where it is at?

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

People making Mawdrey, possibly. Aside from using the Agony infusions themselves, Mawdrey is the only other sink for infusions in the game. (You need a +5 Agony infusion, or 16 +1 Agony infusions.)

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

i have a feeling one of the biggest drivers is the occasional person making a +10 for a new fractal set. higher than that gets far too expensive to justify using the infusion vs just making another piece of ascended armor or a pink weapon. infusing a ring is more or less free and gives a lot of wiggle room for your AR, so demand for +10s stays pretty steady, but higher ones are all weird numbers that dont quite work right to get you to +70 when pretty much everything comes in multiples of 5.

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Posted by: zaced.7948

zaced.7948

i don’t know the exact values of all the infusion levels but usually anything above +10 is considered useless. you already get to 70ar with full ascended gear and one +5 infusion in one infused trinket with only the versatile infusions. the only reason for higher infusions would be people that want to play lvl 50 fractals in exotic armor (for whatever reason) and the amount (or level) of infusions needed (without any kind of asc gear you’d need two +15 or two +13 and two +12) costs more than a whole ascended armor set + weapon including crafting from 0 to 500. i don’t know if those are recent offers but i bet those are from the time before ascended armor or weapons existed and were possibly something people that ran lvl80 fractals may have used.
so they are not a thing you would craft for profit but rather a dead market with dead offers (from inactive people) from 1 year ago.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

And you got to be nuts if anyone is selling them to the highest buy offers.

there’s your answer. some people do sell to highest buy order. maybe not very readily to the 14’s, 13’s, 12’s, 11’s, etc., but those buy orders are what they are for a reason: supply = demand. not many are demanding them, but supply isn’t exactly low.
At current prices, you can buy-order two +13’s and sell-list a +14 and make a 219g profit. be careful, it’s a very slow turnover on both sides of that or you can flip a +14