Ecto's moving up fast reason: farming
3 words.
Supply and Demand.
First is the supply of ecto; the supply of ecto dropped, so the price of ecto has risen. As a crafter it’s up to you to pass that change on to the consumer.
Secondly is the supply of goods to the consumer. If there are too many crafters trying to sell to too few consumers, the price will be pushed down to the point you can’t make money.
Solution? – Find ways to make a deeper margin or to maximise sales, get creative. The economy is dictated entirely organically by the players themselves, there is little arenanet can do to fix that. If they made ecto more common the value of the crafted goods would go down but your margin would probably stay just as tight at the end of the day.
As the saying goes, if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
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I agree. Im sick of arena net making faulse promises to the community. Im also getting less rares. Atleast it feels that way. The only thing i think was good that they added was the karma vials and higher silver drops from dungeon champs
I’m running fractals and I got plenty of rares with no magic find
Ascended back piece: 50 ectos.
Infused ascended back piece: previous one + 250 ectos (and 0-5 extra depending on if you combine your own essence globs).
Was third tier added yet? Unknown.
Nothing going on here, nossir.
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Well first off, most people were busy doing the new Fractals Dungeons and the one-time events this weekend.
Not that much time was spent farming. So naturally there was less influx of yellows even if the new dungeon drops them occasionally.
Second, rare drop rates were nerfed for regular mobs in Orr. The times I have farmed since the patch I barely got 1 an hour. I’m not noticing the increased drop-rate on veterans either.
Until people find a reliable source of rares, prices are going to continue to climb.
And I bet there are people getting sick of others complaining about not getting rares because their little RNG engine wasn’t revving that day. On Saturday I got 2-3 rares from 3 consecutive fractals chests, Sunday I got 1 rare from 3 consecutive fractals chests. There are new mystic forge recipes that again use ectos so the demand is high.
Within 2 hours fractals i got more rare items than before farming the same time cursed shore. So as of that, the supply of ectos didnt decrease, I rather think its the opposite, the supply increased, the demand (see Ksielvins post) even more.
I got 10 ectos just this weekend from running Fractals Level 4 – 7
and beside dropping, theres another method of getting in touch with rare items, that i will not tell now, after all it shouldnt be to difficult to figure out.
And I bet there are people getting sick of others complaining about not getting rares because their little RNG engine wasn’t revving that day. On Saturday I got 2-3 rares from 3 consecutive fractals chests, Sunday I got 1 rare from 3 consecutive fractals chests. There are new mystic forge recipes that again use ectos so the demand is high.
But guess what? NOT everyone does or choose to do Fractals. I’ve done it once, and probably won’t do it again unless with Guildmates. I also choose to be solo most of the time so ANet is effectively trying to “force” players to do something they dont want to, in my case Fractures. And to make it even clearer, I havent even made it to Cursed Shore, Im like 20% map complete on Malchor’s Leap so I’m not one of those zergers. I just want to do my thing on my favorite maps but doing so seem to be unfavorable since patch.
I too, noticed what the OP stated. I think it’s due to three things:
1. The magic find stat either no longer works, or its effectiveness has been significantly decreased.
2. An overzealous, very rigid anti-farming code has been implemented. The open world droprate has been temporarily decreased.
3. Fractal droprate has been temporarily increased to bait people into doing that dungeon. Once people have a small stack of those fractal insignias, the fractal dungeon droprate will be decreased and the droprate of other places is reinstated. (Although now, people have fractal insignias, and it would be such a waste not to do a few more runs in order to get fractal insignia reward X/Y/Z).
I’ve just made 5 rare level 80 axes with mats I gathered as I cba to buy them off TP while their prices are crazy. I used Black Lion Salvage Kit. Guess how many globs I got? 1! This must be some kittening joke!
lol, hasn’t the price of ectos been climbing ever since they banned all those bots? no wonder there are less rares/ectos available.
I’ve just made 5 rare level 80 axes with mats I gathered as I cba to buy them off TP while their prices are crazy. I used Black Lion Salvage Kit. Guess how many globs I got? 1! This must be some kittening joke!
That happened to me few days ago too, salvaged 6 and got ZERO!!! Ectos.
Something has changed for sure, with a full MF set and buffs I was getting around 6-10 rares in 4 hours each morning. I did the same as I usually do the past few mornings and got around 4 rares in 4 days. Breaking them down with BL salvage kit gave 0 extos.
RNG happens… I haven’t had much opportunity to play in the past few days, but I did pick up one level 80 rare since the patch and got 1 ecto from salvaging.
From this, I can draw no conclusions whatsoever about salvaging or drop rates.
Rare drop rate is certainly down in orr. A week ago I got like 2 yellows per event average (up to 5 max possible), and now I get maybe 1 every other DE. Exotic drop rate is slightly up though, as I got an exotic when farming penitent/shelter today, and that’s never happened before.
Endless Petrification Tonic
For me its like this;
Sparks for charged lodestones: 1x in 2 hours ( if i keep it up )
Champions: blues or nothing
Orr chests: blue and greens
Fractals lvl 1 – 4: yellows!
Fractals lvl 4 – 9: greens and blues
My only way to make money is to work with the trading post. I hope Anet does realise that you need tons of gold in this game to get a legendary.. the Lodestones cost lots of money! (150g for 100 atm) The pre-c is still the same price (200 for sunrise).
So ye, anyone know where we can make some gold while we play the game instead of the TP? :P
I would love to know how I’m meant to get enough money to get either rares or ecto’s even with doing fractals when I’m trying to get the legendary and ascended backpiece.
That’s a good 550 ecto’s you need there roughly. Thats 126.50 gold + 200 for precursor (dawn) + 100 icy runes + whatever crafting/lodestone you need another 400 or more (170 gold for lodestone alone).
Trust me I’ve been trying to gather them for 2 months and only got about 30 of some mats and 2 lodestone, drop chance far too low for half the things unless I’m very unlucky which would make sense since some free trialist got two precursors during the one time event when I got nothing.
A legendary comes to probably 1k gold. With 1 gold being worth 85 gems at the moment it’ll be about 1 pound roughly per 1 gold, that’s 1k real life money for a legendary and an ascended backpiece…what..the..hell?! (Apologies for my terrible maths correct me if I’m wrong but the sum of money would roughly come to 1000 british pounds/nearly 1600 US dollars).
I’ve played this game 1117 hours and I see people running around with legendaries, precursors and what not because they mostly got lucky either by drops or playing the trading post game which I’m terrible with and which is now entirely dominated by the rich.
The way it stands a normal person playing the game normally (which I’m not with having so much play time yet I’m struggling because I’m really unlucky let alone someone who plays less) even with fractals giving a better amount it’s far too unrealistic to obtain versus the lucky ones. This makes legendaries not about achievement but luck.
RNG = bad….period. Legendaries should NOT be about luck, they should be a reward for hard work it should be fair and equal in requirement in regards to obtaining it. I HATED RNG in games like WoW I stopped playing it because I HATE gambling. At least make the drops more frequent if you’re going to do RNG so it’s more realistically obtainable.
I love this game to death but stop punishing your majority player base, please.
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I got a lot of yellows over the weekend, but with the reportedly easier precursors, I was actually thinking of trying to gamble that way (gotta wait for the prices to recover from the legendary ancient karka’s chest).
2 hours farming pent and shelter, got 2 rares in that time with full MF gear, food buff and banner, other members of the farming party in the same boat. Anet wants to stop trying to control the economy and leave it to the players to decide, because changing drop rates and putting in DR’s does exactly that.
“After several hours I’m still swinging this sword with1 lodestone drop”
I manage to get 10 rares on average in a farming stretch on Cursed Shore.
The best places for me are the Spider at the south camp, and the plinx event right before and right after the roflcopter. GL
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of a vanquished opponent.
For me its like this;
Sparks for charged lodestones: 1x in 2 hours ( if i keep it up )
Champions: blues or nothing
Orr chests: blue and greens
Fractals lvl 1 – 4: yellows!
Fractals lvl 4 – 9: greens and bluesMy only way to make money is to work with the trading post. I hope Anet does realise that you need tons of gold in this game to get a legendary.. the Lodestones cost lots of money! (150g for 100 atm) The pre-c is still the same price (200 for sunrise).
So ye, anyone know where we can make some gold while we play the game instead of the TP? :P
This pretty much. The RnG gods were nice to me on Halloween, but in my humble opinion this game’s loot system is the worst thing about it.
Anet killed all farming. The price of Ectos is going nowhere but up. No one is finding large amounts of rares to break down into Ecto.
I really don’t care what they claimed they did, but the drops are not better at all, maybe worse.
I’m running a full MF setup with sigils, food and banners. Vets and Champions everywhere are dropping absolutely NOTHING. I mean nothing.
Likewise with other normal mobs around any map.
Ive tried all of Orr, Frostgorge and Fireheart thus far and its the same thing everywhere. Mats and blue items.
Why the hell would Anet nerf this game into the ground? I mean W T F are these people thinking? Do they honestly believe this is good for the game?
I’m going to give it another week for them to get their heads outta the dirt and do something to improve this game instead of releasing poor bugged out one time events.
Hey Anet want to know how to make money? Its a 4 letter word. BUFF!
P. S. Anywhere you see porous bones dropping at a high rate has been stealth nerfed or has been nerfed in the past to reduce drops. Move on from these areas as you will find nothing.
The EXACT same thing is happening to me. It took a whole month of farming for me to get four rares above level 70, I used the BLTC salvage kits NONE of them gave me an ecto…this is absolutely unacceptable.
And what happened to vets/champs dropping better items, hmm? where’d that go?
They never said vets/champs would drop better items, it was that they would actually drop at least an item. It was not a sure thign prior to the changes, so now, if oyu have heavy magic find, you will have an even better chance on them because you are going to get and item. Mf does not affect drop rate, just what is dropped if it drops.
The EXACT same thing is happening to me. It took a whole month of farming for me to get four rares above level 70, I used the BLTC salvage kits NONE of them gave me an ecto…this is absolutely unacceptable.
And what happened to vets/champs dropping better items, hmm? where’d that go?
Hopefully it hasnt been implemented yet. Lol
The EXACT same thing is happening to me. It took a whole month of farming for me to get four rares above level 70, I used the BLTC salvage kits NONE of them gave me an ecto…this is absolutely unacceptable.
And what happened to vets/champs dropping better items, hmm? where’d that go?
Hopefully it hasnt been implemented yet. Lol
It was implemented, and as I just said, prior to your post, it was not better items. It was that they would always drop an item.
Was farming shelter and pent today for about 2 hrs, started with full MF gear and food never seen one rare drop for about an hour, so swapped back to normal gear, within minutes 3 rares dropped, ended up with 5 rares in about 45 minutes. Whether Anet have done something unintentionally or not, but something is wrong with MF at the moment imo.
“After several hours I’m still swinging this sword with1 lodestone drop”