Guild Wars 2

OK this is one of the things that drove me nuts when I left almost a year ago. Been putting up with it the last week… really don’t think I can handle it for much longer… again.

last time I chalked it up to some over zelous super annoying anti bot thing… now I’m wondering is this some bug that people know how to fix… or is it really some heavy handed anti bot that Anet hasn’t found a better way of doing in over a year… I really hope its a bug I can fix, I have been reminded why I stopped playing and I do love this game.

Husanak.3769:

OK this is one of the things that drove me nuts when I left almost a year ago. Been putting up with it the last week… really don’t think I can handle it for much longer… again.

last time I chalked it up to some over zelous super annoying anti bot thing… now I’m wondering is this some bug that people know how to fix… or is it really some heavy handed anti bot that Anet hasn’t found a better way of doing in over a year… I really hope its a bug I can fix, I have been reminded why I stopped playing and I do love this game.

If this annoys you to such an extent that it makes you stop playing a game you love, you should stop playing.

Indeed likely what will happen… really love the market in this game, one of the more fun to play. Well until you realize it has taken you 30min to do something that would take 2min in pretty much any other game. Perhaps this time when I leave I’ll send my 2000 or so gold to a friend so I’m not tempted to come back. lol

Husanak.3769:

Indeed likely what will happen… really love the market in this game, one of the more fun to play. Well until you realize it has taken you 30min to do something that would take 2min in pretty much any other game. Perhaps this time when I leave I’ll send my 2000 or so gold to a friend so I’m not tempted to come back. lol

HI friend! But yeah that anti bot thing drives me insane too.

Error attempting to sell took me out of the trading business. Try flipping 200 stacks in a day with that error bogging you down.

Forget about it.

What I hate about this message is that it’s unclear at first what causes it. Why not just have a message that actually tells you it’s against bots?

It is very annoying, I wouldn’t mind it so much if the anti bot thing was set to catch people spamming orders faster than a human possibly could. But the fact is, it is just set at way to slow a threshold currently.

A slightly blind geriatric could post orders and get caught out for “being too fast”.

The system is a limp wristed attempt at regulating sell listings. Why sell orders only, I don’t know. I can put out buy orders as fast as I can input them into the trade post. When I sell stacks as fast as I can, I will hit the “error” by the 8th item at the earliest and 10th at the latest – like clockwork.

Then I’m on time out. Twiddle my thumbs while I have a full inventory with maxed out sized bags that needs to get listed.

The trade post could use some TLC. It could use a better UI. It could use a search function that better differentiates between armor types, for instance. It could do without the “error attempting to sell” also.

The listing issues are annoying as well. I was gone for months, I was expecting to see some changes. Instead it looks exactly like it did before I left. They have done I think a good job of making general lower level stuff move with the crafting system and stuff. As someone who is more likely to spend 2-3 hours of play time just working a market… this game is both great and highly frustrating all at once. Again this morning, log in and spend an hour going though a backlog of items before I could even hope to pick anything up off the TP today. If it is just a way to slow the market down a bit instead of stopping people that would be low enough to automate junk… well its not any better from my end. Either way it frustrates me to the point smacking my keyboard around. lol As much as the other games I play have lesser markets at least I can play the market there to RELAX… :/

I’ve suggested it before, I’ll suggest again:
can’t list more than 1 thing per second. and instead of an error if you try to exceed this, just make it so the sell button can’t be clicked until that second is up.
this will have the same affect on bots as this 7 per 10 seconds has now, but have the added benefit of not affecting everyone else in the game.

Being that a bot is programmable, having a system with predictable behavior (i.e. the “Error”) is not going to stop bots. Whats to stop people from listing items at a minimum pace in order to bypass this?

Another interesting thing is that to my knowledge of following this disaster of a system for over a year now, ANet has never publicly spoken about it.

Sometimes we are thinking too much.

It says “error”. An error is an error. It means something in TP has gone wrong. No matter what the reason causes that, it is Anet’s job to fix an error.

Still say it’s there to limit database congestion caused by overhead of sell orders.

Behellagh.1468:

Still say it’s there to limit database congestion caused by overhead of sell orders.

If it’s the case they can just remove the 250 sell limit.

Afya.5842:

Behellagh.1468:

Still say it’s there to limit database congestion caused by overhead of sell orders.

If it’s the case they can just remove the 250 sell limit.

also the ability to place 20 buy orders per second (by clicking really fast on high-ping networks)

Buy orders don’t have the same overhead as sell orders.

at best, buy order uses 1/2 the server resources as selling (with your collections tab making up the other 1/2). still way out of balance in what they let us do (I don’t see a buy limit of 14 stacks every 30 seconds to go with that 7 stacks per 30 second sell limit)