Guild Wars 2

Those cooking components have high prices, because they don’t generally have nodes. They are a rare drop from generic herb nodes for their tier (just as foxfires, mentioned by you, are a rare drop from t5 and t6 trees). Since (unlike trees) those nodes are themselves rare occurences on maps, with no clusters or areas of higher density, the end items are really hard to farm.

Astralporing.1957:

Those cooking components have high prices, because they don’t generally have nodes. They are a rare drop from generic herb nodes for their tier (just as foxfires, mentioned by you, are a rare drop from t5 and t6 trees). Since (unlike trees) those nodes are themselves rare occurences on maps, with no clusters or areas of higher density, the end items are really hard to farm.

Yep, same principle behind things like linen. If you could reliably acquire linen (i.e. go chop down linen trees in the world), the price would be much lower than what it is. But given that the most reliable way to get it is to salvage it off random mob drops (for which the salvage products are also randomized to a degree), it makes it much more cumbersome to acquire linen.

Of course, it also doesn’t help that things like lemongrass and poultry meat are used in a very popular (and sometimes necessary) food item for WvW play, for which there are no cheaper alternatives that are just as effective.

For comparison, you don’t see the same sort of prices for snow truffles because they can be reliably acquired from gathering nodes, and the markets were flooded with koi cakes during dragon bash which made rare veggie pizzas much less necessary.

Had no idea, thanks for the tip! Just sold mine…lol. =)

I’ve been living off my own collected Slabs of Poultry Meat in all honesty.

I like the fact there are some rarer items, items that can’t just be bought off the TP easily whenever you need them. It adds challenge, it adds diversity. It creates some end products that are actually high value and worth working for. It’d be a bit of a bore if every recipe were easily accessed cheaply on the trading post.
That’s why i love chef – it’s so much less predictable, much more fun to train without a guide, and its the one skill i don’t just end up buying level 400 off the trading post.

As mentioned above, same goes for linen. Linen is harder to gather since most people don’t salvage it from loot they get at high levels anymore, and aside from that it just drops from loot bags. But once again, i think its good that some materials are rare or harder to aquire.

I only know one spot for lemongrass .. there are 4-6 herb spots and it takes 3 minutes
to farm them .. if you can reach another instance via guesting its 6 minutes.
To farm them you need 10 characters and 2 instances .. and in the end you make maybe
8g per hour .. the same like farming mobs for T6 mats or harvest iron and platinum.

So for me the price is OK.

To me, anet should have added Foxfire Cluster in a different way, one that doesn’t let the prices of the woods fall down into oblivion… so that the marked got very quickly oversaturated with these woods that these woods are basically nothing worth anymore.
ANet sadly forgot to add some new recipes also, that make good usage of the extreme amounts of these woods that would definetely flood the economy through the implemention of the foxfire cluster.
They could have done a solution with it, by puttign those woods also as part into the creation process of the mawdrey backpiece.

That would have countered a bit the massive downfall of the prices from these woods.
Cooking Materials for good food are naturally costign more, because the ingedients are much slower to receive in large numbers, because from gathering, you get from a plant always only 1 unit of the cooking material, while you get from a tree always 3 units at least, if not more. The chances to gather from a plant more than 1 unit are rarer, than the chances to get from a tree or an ore more units, thus its naturaly that good cooking materials are more expensive, than other material types, because it takes longer tiem to get the same amount of units from a plant, than from a tree or an ore due to the difference in the amount of units you get from a gathering.

Would Anet change plants to work exactly like tree and ores, that you get always guaranteed 3 units of the cooking materials, then would those prices naturally fall down by 2/3rd of their prices due to the cooking materials quickly becoming alot more in the TP then.

I oppose all forms of farming in MMO’s.

The devs tried to do something for the rise in wool/silk/linen prices by putting them into the bags you get from living world stuff, it didnt do a ton because the drop rate was still really low, but thats one good way for them to address it in the future. Although i’m sure the TP flippers will come in and say “No way omgz its fine like this just learn to play the market”.

I’m just glad no one I know still does wvw anymore, because the cost to keep good food buffs up in there is just silly now.

It’s a two-fold problem.

1. Several of the ingredients are very hard to get in any decent quantity. Supply vs demand.
2. The food is incredibly OP vs most of the other comparable foods. Making demand high and causing other ingredients to be far lower in value resulting in very little offset when the RNG gives you a different herb drop.

The easiest way to fix the problem without having to address drop rate is to either make other foods better so it’s not such a “Oh, well obviously I’m going to use poultry lemongrass soup in WvW” situation. The other option is to simply remove +/- condition duration foods entirely as their existence pretty much necessitates that other person use the counter food you use.

Option two would have the nice added benefit of making soft crowd control worth a kitten against a particular class.

I think it’s nice items hold value.

A lot of them are not ’’hard’’ to aquire, but you just luckily get them every once in a while.
It’s nice there’s variety in value. Where you go like ‘’yay, i found something useful/worthwhile’‘. There’s already plenty of items that hold little to no value (I’m looking at you Gemstones and Jewels!)

If you’re looking more carefully at what’s been going on with prices on a macro level, a lot of previously useless items have been given a use. Which is nice.

I don’t think current values are offsetting at all.

Hitman.5829:

Beldin.5498:

I only know one spot for lemongrass .. there are 4-6 herb spots and it takes 3 minutes
to farm them .. if you can reach another instance via guesting its 6 minutes.
To farm them you need 10 characters and 2 instances .. and in the end you make maybe
8g per hour .. the same like farming mobs for T6 mats or harvest iron and platinum.

So for me the price is OK.

Still the price for lemon grass and chilli pepper is ridiculously high. Around 30 silver is a lot of gold for one crafting material. Dungeon runs alone give you 1 gold and most of them take about 20-30 minutes to complete. The solution is simple:

• Make people far them OR
• Introduce more nodes so that people farm them casually.

Lemongrass is 16s not 30s .. i just had to check that .. else i would have directly went
to farm some Lemongrass again

Problem is that people always brag about how much Gold they make with dungeons
and tell all people farming isn’t worth it and they should just make dungeons and buy
everything from that.

So if you believe them you can make 20-30g per hour with dungeons why we poor
lemongrass farmers make just 8g per hour .. and in that case lemongrass should be
even more expensive .. lol

ipan.4356:

I oppose all forms of farming in MMO’s.

Maybe MMO’s aren’t for you then and … who cares.

As for the thread … number of nodes isn’t the only factor here on the price of those things. For instance … there are raptors and moas EVERYWHERE. Poultry meat ‘nodes’ are plentiful.

To review the OP’s suggestion:

• Elder Wood was never in short supply, but other items are.
• Why not have Foxfire (or the next special item) drop from one of those nodes?

I don’t actually have a problem with some items being in constant low supply: it’s great for new and casual players to find it in their travels. I also see value in offering special drops from stuff in low-tier zones. For example, elder wood was never in short supply, so why not make Foxfire drop alongside e.g. Soft Wood, which has been in short supply since ascended crafting?

It seems to me that ANet (in the form of John Smith) did that deliberately, to ensure that mid-tier zones would always be profitable farming locations.

At least you can get foxfire from tree nodes. Ever tried farming tiny/small scales?

Eric.6109:

At least you can get foxfire from tree nodes. Ever tried farming tiny/small scales?

Not really hard actually. You know what mobs they are dropping from, and you kill them infinitely for those scales.
Some events even make them easier to farm.

Change maps once in a while to avoid the DR on drops, and you’re set.

What they should’ve done is remove all of the trees around that statue.

They’re 30 silver? I guess I’ll start keeping an eye out for them then.

How about adding a food descrambler to allow food to be salvaged?

Beldin.5498:

I only know one spot for lemongrass .. there are 4-6 herb spots and it takes 3 minutes
to farm them .. if you can reach another instance via guesting its 6 minutes.
To farm them you need 10 characters and 2 instances .. and in the end you make maybe
8g per hour .. the same like farming mobs for T6 mats or harvest iron and platinum.

So for me the price is OK.

and lemongrass is only 1h respawn + all the other good stuff you find there like corriander or Cayenne Pepper

i had before megaserver patch alot chars sitting there

now after megaserver patch farming is a farce – you have to find the nodes most time again

arenanet should make all farming nodes the same on all megaservers and problem would be solved

Hitman.5829:

…… ridiculously high on price on the TP; just to name a few:

• Chilli Pepper
• Lemon grass
• Dill
• Sesame seeds
• Sage
• Slab of poultry meat

make people farm these crafting material so that they go down in price or introduce more nodes all around tyria so people farm them when exploring or doing wvw……..

Rather than ask Anet to solve this, why not do some farming of your own and earn some gold?

You are looking for Herbs (Lemongrass ONLY in Straits of Devastation, I think) and Raptors. Good luck.

those things are attainable on your own if you dont like the price, either do that or bite the bullet and pay the tps price

Ludovic.7259:

How about adding a food descrambler to allow food to be salvaged?

The Regurgatron-666?

I see the OP’s question to JS was answered and JS shot him down accordingly. I tend to agree with JS on this one … it’s not a problem that it’s hard to get certain mats. This just ensures that people who put the effort forth to get those mats are rewarded accordingly.

Hitman.5829:

make people farm these crafting material so that they go down in price …

Someone care to explain why this makes no sense? Hint: I don’t farm stuff that isn’t worth my time to farm it.

I wish some of those things had a node farm, even if they were at the end of some annoying (but not too time consuming) jumping puzzle, like the top of the vizier tower.

As for poultry meat, moas and raptors are more likely to drop claws than poultry at any level, and I’m yet to see a griffin that will drop poultry, even though they should have a chance to drop both red meat and poultry meat, considering their hybrid apparance.

I wonder if it would be possible to have an ‘NPC’ farm in the form of a small area in which the next X enemies of a certain type you kill will give you guaranteed drops, then drop nothing, – not even exp – until the next day. A quickly respawning herd of cows here to get 6-15 slabs of red meat, a flock of moas there to get 5-12 pultry, a school of tuna to get some fish fillets, a band of bandits that gets you 5-15 linen, a submerged risen band of pirates that gives 10-30 silk… and so on.
There will be more reasons to go to places people visit less often. For example one ‘farm’ of moas could be in the northwest corner of Kessex, past the river. There’s nothing there but some moa. And there’s a cool spot behind the Luminates plant. Nothing ever happens in Shattercleft Hills, put a band of nightmare spiders there to get some daily poison. And Sea of Elon? That place is desolate! How often people goes there and sees the events?

I like it when you can go and get a minium of stuff here and there in these node farms. It won’t give away stuff to people, but it’ll add another source for the stuff that will come in handy for those that like exploring over other higher income activities.

I can easily harvest 25 poultry in less than half an hour….in NO WAY difficult.
(SE area of Risewild Hills in Bloodtide Coast).

Now the Herb node items are another story. Lemongrass is particularly limited as it can only be gather in Straits of Devastation (as far as I have seen).

I can agree that the TP prices on some mats (T6 anyone?) is getting to be pretty high. However, as stated before, there are not as many mat farmers around. When asking about advice for crafting, the answer is always “Farm dungeons and buy them off the TP. It’s easier and faster”. So if no one is farming them (i.e. bringing in large quantities of them) of course the prices are going to rise, as the supply input has dwindled. Solution? Don’t take the easy route and buy all your mats. Farm them, and sell those you don’t need. I don’t think Anet needs to or should get involved as the TP market is player driven. We set the prices. But of course thats not going to happen, as it will always be easier to run dungeons and just buy them.