Guild Wars 2

I noticed that some of the permanent tools on sale right now say they can be used for “Used to harvest all…” and some say “same effectiveness as an orichalcum…”

Does this mean if higher tier materials are released, the second type will no longer work on it? Because currently, they are all the same price, so having that type of difference would be a major issue when deciding which one to buy.

I would like to get on based off which skin I like the best, but if I’m spending 1000 gems, I’d like for it to be guaranteed to work with all materials.

Has there been any information regarding this difference in item details?

Thanks for the help!

Why would they ever add a higher tier in the first place?

I have read posts assuming they would eventually add a Tier 7, as crafting skills go further up… why not?

I’m curious about the wording. Maybe it means nothing, but I’d like to know that the “orichalcum” one would increase to include all if that ever happened.

Has anyone ever asked ANet about this?

This has been brought up before with no response that I recall.

Doubtful they would release a tier 7 though. Maybe some time in the far future If legendary armor is added to the game. But, more than likely they will just add different crafting items similar to bloodstone and empyreal fragments like they did for ascended.

The current everlasting tools work like orichalcum tools. If they ever introduce a new tier, I’m sure™ that they’ll be upgraded to handle them.

ANet is notoriously inconsistent about their item descriptions; I wouldn’t read anything into the differences.

Permanent tools will always be top tier, so if a new tier is added they will be able to gather from them. It’s been said officially somewhere I’m sure, but have no idea where to find the post about it now (suspect it’ll be around the time they were made account-bound if you feel the need to hunt it down).

Penarddun.6827:

I noticed that some of the permanent tools on sale right now say they can be used for “Used to harvest all…” and some say “same effectiveness as an orichalcum…”

Does this mean if higher tier materials are released, the second type will no longer work on it? Because currently, they are all the same price, so having that type of difference would be a major issue when deciding which one to buy.

I would like to get on based off which skin I like the best, but if I’m spending 1000 gems, I’d like for it to be guaranteed to work with all materials.

Has there been any information regarding this difference in item details?

Thanks for the help!

Will they release new tiers of gathering? I don’t know, but if they do, and you got one of these tools and it doesn’t work on the new tiers, you’re going to be pretty angry.

Is the potential for massive anger worth it? I’d say no.

On another note: Don’t buy infinite tools unless they give a bonus (like the watchwork pick does) for the exact same reason — unless it’s the animation you love.

I bought the Bouquet of Roses a couple days ago from the gem shop since it looked like a fun item. Well the info for it in the gem shop said it had to be equipped in a toy slot and said something about town clothes. Well I figured it was just an outdated item description and bought it anyway. Turned out I couldn’t use it at all. The item showed it did 0 damage and went into a toy slot. I was mad for a few seconds until I read the rest of the tooltip. Turns out I had to take it to a black lion trader NPC and exchange it for a new bundle item. It didn’t say which trader though. I tried the weaponsmith and no go. I tried the armorsmith and that did it.

So my theory is the infinite use gathering tools from the gem shop that say they are equal to orchalcum tools were the first tools to be released and later Anet decided to use a different description on the new tools but didn’t update it on the old tools.

Pretty lazy if you ask me. Selling a town clothes toy item instead of updating it to a newer version confused, and upset me, until I found I had to trade it in to a certain NPC for an updated version. The same goes for the gathering tools as this thread points out. They need to stop being lazy and update text info on items and create new versions of the old toy items before trying to sell outdated stuff in the gem shop.

Charrbeque.8729:

I bought the Bouquet of Roses a couple days ago from the gem shop since it looked like a fun item. Well the info for it in the gem shop said it had to be equipped in a toy slot and said something about town clothes. Well I figured it was just an outdated item description and bought it anyway. Turned out I couldn’t use it at all. The item showed it did 0 damage and went into a toy slot. I was mad for a few seconds until I read the rest of the tooltip. Turns out I had to take it to a black lion trader NPC and exchange it for a new bundle item. It didn’t say which trader though. I tried the weaponsmith and no go. I tried the armorsmith and that did it.

So my theory is the infinite use gathering tools from the gem shop that say they are equal to orchalcum tools were the first tools to be released and later Anet decided to use a different description on the new tools but didn’t update it on the old tools.

Pretty lazy if you ask me. Selling a town clothes toy item instead of updating it to a newer version confused, and upset me, until I found I had to trade it in to a certain NPC for an updated version. The same goes for the gathering tools as this thread points out. They need to stop being lazy and update text info on items and create new versions of the old toy items before trying to sell outdated stuff in the gem shop.

Wow. So they just cut-and-pasted the old item despite the fact it’s pretty much broken? (Not unexpected though, considering the HotW troll they copy-and-pasted from AC… together with AC tokens as drops!)

By technical definition, T-7 is the Ascended mats, or so people have been calling them. And you don’t need gathering tools for them, So I’d imagine gather all and same as oricalcum would remain the best.