Very sad to see the amount of minipulation going on with the market in this game if what is happening with Potato’s is not some kind if bug that Anet needs to be aware of. Potato’s have been steady for weeks and months and all of sudden, the entire market is bought up and then relisted in the 70 silver range. Not five minutes after a big list of sales in the 70 silver range, they are gone with now a listing at 50 silver and more trickling in realizing the big gap in buy sell profit margin. So we went from 40 copper to 70 silver in seconds. Slowly watching it come down but the more interesting part is the fact that orders I had in to be filled have not been filled for over 2 hours while this happened. Now more orders are being put in because there is such a huge gap but still not sure any are being filled?
I actually think this is bugged now and exploitable. I just filled that 5s55c order maybe 50 times and it simply will not go away……so I submitted a bug report. Credit my hangover for lack of “something’s not right here” on why it took me so many times b4 realizing it.
I’ve posted a bug report, and market forces are closing the loophole fast, but I’ll refrain from explaining it here in public. Needless to say this needs hotfix ASAP.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Yeah same thing happening here. It’s actually fulfilling orders higher than that (check your income) but it’s not showing them.
And unfortunately you can only sell 1 at a time because of it :/
I sent bug reports shortly after it happened with picture. Also of the testing I did. Something had to be wrong as no orders were being filled for almost 2 hours and then everything either got bought up or just plain disappeared. I still say the wierd part is how there then started to be listing after listing in the 70 silver range pop up almost instant after it happened. Those 70 silver string of listings were up about 5 to 10 minutes and then those vanished as well.
Well, whatever, thanks whoever decided to pull this stunt for whatever reason, and those foolish enough to actually put high buy orders on it, you just made me 8g on my stock of the things.
I’ll buy replacements later once people stop being stupid.
I still find it hard to believe anybody would buy at these prices when you could buy potatos for 40 to 42 copper each for last few days and weeks. I’m pretty sure some made a fortune off what took place. Wish it had been me but it thought it was just was not right after selling potatoes for 40 copper only minutes before this happened.
im pretty sure they’ll be dumped back. and when that happens, it’ll go down again. hold off buying potatoes for now. idk what recipe potatoes are important anyway.
Don’t disturb me, I have a cat in me at the moment.
The only people that are buying potatoes are the ones who don’t actually realize that they’re hideously overpriced, and see the price gap and think people are actually buying at the listed price. So they buy from people smart enough to realize they’re completely overpriced and basically just take their money.
who ever manipulated potato must have lost a hundred g doing it if they really bought up all the stock up to 70s.
Well, how much of that could be sold off to the people that decided to put in stupidly high buy orders after he did it at a profit? I’d imagine most of those orders were clustered around the price it was at before he did it, all of which could be sold at a significant profit to the high orders.
who ever manipulated potato must have lost a hundred g doing it if they really bought up all the stock up to 70s.
Well, how much of that could be sold off to the people that decided to put in stupidly high buy orders after he did it at a profit? I’d imagine most of those orders were clustered around the price it was at before he did it, all of which could be sold at a significant profit to the high orders.
I guess he profited off people’s stupidity but I still wonder if it was profitable at all.
No one was buying the potatoes – they were exiting the system, not changing hands. Then the system gave out coin equal to the current lowest for sale offer that was not glitched.
Someone must have detected the behavior when it was in it’s usual coppers per item range, and used all their wealth to buy up every single potato from 45c up to above 70 silver, ALL of them, to magnify the glitch, then set a sell order that didn’t glitch, then unloaded every single potato they bought into the void for 70s per potato. No buyer paid for them. They just transmuted into coin.
They didn’t just make proft on every potato, they made in excess of 10,000% profit on those potatoes the bought below 70c. Ten-thousand percent. And every single potato they acquired was sold at a substantial gain right up to that 70s mark. Then they yanked their orders and tried to hide their tracks, while whatever mechanism that allowed new very high sale offers to stick rather than autoconvert potatoes-to-coin slowly inched downwards from 70s to 5ish.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
No one was buying the potatoes – they were exiting the system, not changing hands. Then the system gave out coin equal to the current lowest for sale offer that was not glitched.
Someone must have detected the behavior when it was in it’s usual coppers per item range, and used all their wealth to buy up every single potato from 45c up to above 70 silver, ALL of them, to magnify the glitch, then set a sell order that didn’t glitch, then unloaded every single potato they bought into the void for 70s per potato. No buyer paid for them. They just transmuted into coin.
They didn’t just make proft on every potato, they made in excess of 10,000% profit on those potatoes the bought below 70c. Ten-thousand percent. And every single potato they acquired was sold at a substantial gain right up to that 70s mark. Then they yanked their orders and tried to hide their tracks, while whatever mechanism that allowed new very high sale offers to stick rather than autoconvert potatoes-to-coin slowly inched downwards from 70s to 5ish.
Considering I dropped 100 at once, with 1 sale, and it got split up into several different sales at different prices, despite all being at the same time, I’m thinking this isn’t the case.
You probably dropped them as new prices were sticking. The process may not have been instantaneous – just computer fast cycling. Some people reported they could only sell 1 at a time.
Every mass I dropped, from the packects of 10-20 that I was harvesting live to the 200+-in-one-whack that was me emptying my bank ‘sold’ effectively instantly. I sold every single one of those bundles at above highest price offered. I was trying to create a new availability floor to kill what looked like price manipulation. They should have waited around for a new buy order that at least matched them. Instead they’d just vanish. I thought I was fighting a buy-wall I couldn’t see for some reason. A really weird buy-wall but I’ve seen equally strange behavior on my goods before and figured the mysterious King Tatter was hunched over GWspidey like a hawk defending their buy-out scheme.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I mean, maybe when the dust settles it’ll be some Mad King Tatter who blew a heap of coin.. Idid notice as I swapped charaters and harvested the next dozen tatters that the new highest buy offer tended to exactly match the amount my last sell offer had over topped them. But the speed was insane.
Maybe someone was testing a TP bot and it ran amok .
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
No one was buying the potatoes – they were exiting the system, not changing hands. Then the system gave out coin equal to the current lowest for sale offer that was not glitched.
Someone must have detected the behavior when it was in it’s usual coppers per item range, and used all their wealth to buy up every single potato from 45c up to above 70 silver, ALL of them, to magnify the glitch, then set a sell order that didn’t glitch, then unloaded every single potato they bought into the void for 70s per potato. No buyer paid for them. They just transmuted into coin.
They didn’t just make proft on every potato, they made in excess of 10,000% profit on those potatoes the bought below 70c. Ten-thousand percent. And every single potato they acquired was sold at a substantial gain right up to that 70s mark. Then they yanked their orders and tried to hide their tracks, while whatever mechanism that allowed new very high sale offers to stick rather than autoconvert potatoes-to-coin slowly inched downwards from 70s to 5ish.
they went to 70s and disapeared cause the guy took them off cause they won’t sell…
Or, perhaps instead of assuming it’s a massive, money-creating bug, perhaps it’s simply that people DID order a higher price, but the list did not update and actually show them.
Which is kind of supported 91 sold at the same time for 5 different prices, in descending order.
Which is what you’d expect if it’s fulfilling multiple people’s orders from highest price to something lower.
I mean, maybe when the dust settles it’ll be some Mad King Tatter who blew a heap of coin.. Idid notice as I swapped charaters and harvested the next dozen tatters that the new highest buy offer tended to exactly match the amount my last sell offer had over topped them. But the speed was insane.
Maybe someone was testing a TP bot and it ran amok .
you’d pretty much need a bot to buy this much stuff and sell it efficiently.
Huh. Well learn something new every day. Learned how do dig around in my sale history .
Is is normal to post a stack of items for 2.5s and for it to then be bought out a second later for 11s each? I mean when the highest offer is 2.1s? You’d have to manually go in and make that offer, right? Because a simple click of “buy now” would have scooped them up at 2.5s each, yes?
Honestly, I didn’t know you could offer 4 times the asking price.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Is is normal to post a stack of items for 2.5s and for it to then be bought out a second later for 11s each? I mean when the highest offer is 2.1s? You’d have to manually go in and make that offer, right? Because a simple click of “buy now” would have scooped them up at 2.5s each, yes?
No that doesn’t sound normal. Maybe you’re right about this being a bug which would also explain the absurd price increase to 70s.
Is is normal to post a stack of items for 2.5s and for it to then be bought out a second later for 11s each? I mean when the highest offer is 2.1s? You’d have to manually go in and make that offer, right? Because a simple click of “buy now” would have scooped them up at 2.5s each, yes?
If the TP wasn’t showing you orders that were above the 2.1s you can see, then you’d sell to the highest order, which in this case is 11s, even if you posted at 2.5s.
Can’t very well have buy orders higher than listings.
If the TP wasn’t showing you orders that were above the 2.1s you can see, then you’d sell to the highest order, which in this case is 11s, even if you posted at 2.5s.
Can’t very well have buy orders higher than listings.
Across 2 hours and over 30 seperate transactions (one dump from bank plus harvesting with 12 characters at two different sites, sometimes selling part way through harvest because the Veteran Joten worried me) and I never once saw the actual highest buy offer? Not once?
Now that I can actually read my history (thanks for prompting me to explore the UI a bit more) NONE of my potatoes ever sold for what I offered them for. And I know I offered to sell every one of them at ever so slightly higher than the highest visible buy offer because I was trying to get a mass of potatoes sitting there not selling.
The only potato I have left is the one I posted with the “match lowest seller” button when I started trying to probe what was going on. It stayed. Someone (or some-bot) spent all night firing off invisible buy orders for a copper less than the current lowest potato? Like I said, I didn’t think you could actually do that, since the buy now button would automaticaly scoop up the cheapest at the price offered. Not pay 4x standing sell offer.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Well, the madness seems to have stopped. I can post for 1c over highest buy offer and my potato sits there more than a second (about 8 seconds, actually) and then sells for the expected return vs. price listed.
If we can call selling a potato for 1.3s in 8 seconds sane.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
If the TP wasn’t showing you orders that were above the 2.1s you can see, then you’d sell to the highest order, which in this case is 11s, even if you posted at 2.5s.
Can’t very well have buy orders higher than listings.
Across 2 hours and over 30 seperate transactions (one dump from bank plus harvesting with 12 characters at two different sites, sometimes selling part way through harvest because the Veteran Joten worried me) and I never once saw the actual highest buy offer? Not once?
Now that I can actually read my history (thanks for prompting me to explore the UI a bit more) NONE of my potatoes ever sold for what I offered them for. And I know I offered to sell every one of them at ever so slightly higher than the highest visible buy offer because I was trying to get a mass of potatoes sitting there not selling.
The only potato I have left is the one I posted with the “match lowest seller” button when I started trying to probe what was going on. It stayed. Someone (or some-bot) spent all night firing off invisible buy orders for a copper less than the current lowest potato? Like I said, I didn’t think you could actually do that, since the buy now button would automaticaly scoop up the cheapest at the price offered. Not pay 4x standing sell offer.
if the things move too fast, The game probably doesn’t update. A script buying up all one item would probably be putting in offers and you won’t even know its there because its changing faster than the TP updates for everyone.
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