Guild Wars 2

Anyone did calculations on these?

What could be the avarage worth of a champion bag, taken into account the silver, crafting mats, occasional rares and exos?

Or in other words, for how much would it sell on the TP?

My guess: 20-25 silver.

Far less.
I have spreadsheets on droprates (and average values) on most regular loot bags with more than 350k lootbags opened. There i can pretty accurately determine the average profit i make, if i buy 1000 bags of any kind.
With champ bags its harder to determine because some drops from them have a very low drop rate, for example the exclusive skin weapons, ascended chests and precursors.
The amount of mats dropping also varies quite a bit (from 1-10), and the pssible gear drops go into the thousands which means you need a far bigger sample size to accurately determine the average loot table.
While my calculated loot tables for loot bags became pretty accurate after a couple of thousand openings, i would have to open millions of champ bags to get an accurate figure.

There is also a difference between the average value of a champ bag and the price of it on the TP because that one is usually lower than the average value.
My educated guess would be below 10 silver plus the average coin drops from the bags as price on the tp and about 1-3 silver average profit for opening champ bags and selling its contents. That 1-3 silver profit might look high (buy 1000 bags and make 10-30g profit) but its not unreasonable, if you consider that you have to salvage alot of gear in the process, an inconvenience that many players will try to avoid.

How do you buy champ bags on the TP?

I thought someone tossed the number 15s in another thread on the subject. But I think that’s still high.

Behellagh.1468:

I thought someone tossed the number 15s in another thread on the subject. But I think that’s still high.

That sounds about right, actually. I’ve opened somewhere in the neighborhood of 40,000 champ bags myself (from the FGS train and EotM) over the last year, and I’ve tracked about half of them. By salvaging everything including blues, greens and rares (and selling the resulting mats & ectoplasms), including selling any exotics, my current average is around 14silver per bag after TP fees.

A year ago the FGS bags were a bit more profitable, before they reduced the amount of silver/copper you got from the bag itself – my average back then was just over 19silver per bag.

This doesn’t count the mats and gear from the mobs themselves, just the bags themselves. That will raise your profit average per champ, but that of course is affected by your current Magic Find/Luck.

You can get as little as 2.4 silver for a champ bag if you get one t5 leather, a 1.32 silver masterwork equipment, and a low coin drop.

More often than not they’ll be worth less than 10 silver. Based on my own research, you average one T6 material about every 11 bags (when opening several hundred). So even heavy moldy bags tend to be better in that regard.

The absolute max you can get would be whatever the highest selling collectible exotic is worth (probably crustacea/arthropoda which only drop from certain bags), plus an exotic with a strength rune in it, and a charged lodestone. Your chances of that happening are probably no better than getting a precursor drop.

Actually they can probably drop precursors themselves too, but I’ve not heard of that actually happening for anyone.

SKATE.1394:

You can get as little as 2.4 silver for a champ bag if you get one t5 leather, a 1.32 silver masterwork equipment, and a low coin drop.

More often than not they’ll be worth less than 10 silver. Based on my own research, you average one T6 material about every 11 bags (when opening several hundred). So even heavy moldy bags tend to be better in that regard.

The absolute max you can get would be whatever the highest selling collectible exotic is worth (probably crustacea/arthropoda which only drop from certain bags), plus an exotic with a strength rune in it, and a charged lodestone. Your chances of that happening are probably no better than getting a precursor drop.

Actually they can probably drop precursors themselves too, but I’ve not heard of that actually happening for anyone.

I got my one and only precursor drop from a champion bag in fractals.