Key farm in PVP (Idea)

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Posted by: Pyroen.2086

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So I have been key farming a while and I thought ‘how would there be a way to enjoy farming for keys?’ and the answer was a black lion PVP reward track. It would A) be more enjoyable attract people to PVP and C) be an actual way to officially farm keys. It would take more time as one farm for me is 20 minutes exactly, but it would be enjoyable and it would tie together PVP and PVE even more. Come on Devs this would be great I know you like this *nudge nudge. Anyway is this a good Idea or not?

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Farming for keys is an unintended play style the devs had not foreseen. Unless they are willing to remove the key as a reward at the end of that 1st player story arc, which they won’t because it’s an introduction to the kind of misc items you can get from the Gem Shop, they have to turn a blind eye to this “exploit”.

Keys use to fall with amazing frequency until ANet decided to include skin tickets as a rare prize in chests and then free keys all but dried up. There is a reason for that, they want players to buy them, hopefully with cash bought gems. I don’t believe they would ever intentionally add it as a reward to an activity that a character can repeat 2 to 3 times an hour.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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I don’t think Anet intended farm key to be the norm. I think for the chinese server you actually need to be lvl10 to do personal story (unconfirmed), so you can’t even farm key on chinese server.

If Anet really want to sell their black lion key, they should remove key farming. That being said, key farming does provide content players can do, and more content is always better.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

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Anet has actually officially stated they are fine with the key farm and encourage it. I think they would probably be open to doing this for pvp, would be also cool if they did one for wvw as well!

Note: I don’t pvp or wvw but I really do believe in similar rewards for the game modes.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

No they’re fine with it because to “fix” the problem it would eliminate an activity designed to introduce new players to items from the Gem Shop, the game’s continuing income source. And 2 to 4 keys an hour for mind numbing replay of rolling an identical character and playing the exact same content every 15-25 minutes in and of itself a deterrent to wide spread farming which could impact on key sales. If you want to play 6 to 11 hours to earn a mere 25 keys, knock yourselves out. Few have that degree of dedication to mindless tedium just to get something for nothing, so they aren’t concern.

A repetitive PvP award to earn keys however isn’t anything I described above. Even if the rate is similar it’s not necessary as an introduction to the Gem Shop nor require you to roll a new character 2 to 4 times an hour as a deterrent. And any rate less than what can be achieved in PvE would be rejected by PvP players and portrayed as another example of inequality between PvE and PvP, by ignoring the massive differences between the two methods.

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Posted by: Pyroen.2086

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I’m not saying it would only reward you with keys but it would give you something from a list of items along with keys every now and then.

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Posted by: RemiRome.8495

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Keys use to fall with amazing frequency until ANet decided to include skin tickets as a rare prize in chests and then free keys all but dried up.

Things that never happened for 500 Alex.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Keys use to fall with amazing frequency until ANet decided to include skin tickets as a rare prize in chests and then free keys all but dried up.

Things that never happened for 500 Alex.

I use to get keys often from map completes and random drops and from chests. It wasn’t all that unusual to open a chest and get a key. Longest chain I had was four chests.

Not talking about finding one under every carrot. But compared to today, it was considerably more frequent. But once chests had something “good”, keys all but vanished from map completes and chests.

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Posted by: RemiRome.8495

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I use to get keys often from
*map completes
*random drops
*and from chests.

still do, no change
still do, no change
vastly reduced but doesn’t really count for obvious reasons. can’t have a free key without a key first.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

I haven’t gotten a key from a map complete in at least a year. Same period, only 1 key from a drop. Nearly fell out of my chair.

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Posted by: TheGrimm.5624

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+10000 here, would love to see it as drop in the PvP reward track and would love to see that idea carry over to WvW.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

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I use to get keys often from
*map completes
*random drops
*and from chests.

still do, no change
still do, no change
vastly reduced but doesn’t really count for obvious reasons. can’t have a free key without a key first.

map completion gives the same number of keys as it’s always given. I just completed it on a character and got about 10 keys total. how many zones are there? like 40? it’s something like a 25% drop rate.

however, I found more keys from random drops in the first 2 months of playing than I have received/bought in the subsequent 1.8 years. they used to drop as frequently as dandelion junk. you would get more from killing the mobs while doing map completion than you would from actually completing the map. After my first character did their map completion, I had 20 of each booster and more BLSK than would fit in a bank tab. I had to use the BLSK on rares because I had so many and thought I’d never use them all. then they nerfed the drop rate. except ‘nerf’ isn’t strong enough of a word. If nerfing turns a sword into a wiffle bat, then they etherealed the drop rate. for the sword analogy, they turned a sword into you blowing air on your enemy. drop rate went from 1/hour to 1/year.

I’ve never got a key from a chest, so iuno which chests you’re referring to.

It does seem like pvp has little if any opportunities to get keys. they should have similar chances as pve.