If you and everyone are so sure sprockets will rise in price, why isnt there already rampant speculation, driving up the price?
Hint: Sprockets aren’t that useful.
Not only that, but these picks will insure that the market is flooded with them so the price will never amount to much.
Sprocket value was never the major issue. Its a step in a different direction. Also thanks to this, earlier version of picks are no longer BiS and they were advertised as such.
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
“last pick you will ever need” were the words used or something very close to it (do correct me if i am wrong; my memory isn’t the greatest)
I have a molten pick (8 of em). I need it to get me some sprockets. Is it possible for a mining pick to get you sprockets? Yes. Is my pick capable of doing that? No. Do I need a different mining pick for it to be possible? Yes. Hmm…
Be who you are and say what you feel,
because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind
I have the WWMP, the extra sprockets really arn’t that big a deal. Its nice to have, especially if you didn’t snag the gift of sprockets, but otherwise its a vary minor deal. I’m not saying that the OP’s argument is unfounded in the slightest bit.
MikeyGrey, the Gift of Sprockets Sprocket Generator node is a mining node. This means, technically, its possible to mine sprockets with any pickaxe, including MAMP.
No more non cosmetic world event rewards. We haven’t forgotten the Ancient Karka.
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
“last pick you will ever need” were the words used or something very close to it (do correct me if i am wrong; my memory isn’t the greatest)
I have a molten pick (8 of em). I need it to get me some sprockets. Is it possible for a mining pick to get you sprockets? Yes. Is my pick capable of doing that? No. Do I need a different mining pick for it to be possible? Yes. Hmm…
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
If the Watchwork pick does not get bonus ores, then it is actually the WORST in slot pick. I’m at 1000 pick attempts without a single bonus ore so far. More testing tonight.
Note, I am not talking about bonus pick attempts, but bonus ores. As in, I swing my pick one time and one ore is added, then one more ore is added.
I might be wrong about this, but I don’t think ore nodes have ever given out bonus ores like that. Wood nodes do, but ore does not. The only ore node I can conclusively remember giving out 2 ores in a single strike are the Rich Iron Veins, and they seem to be a special case. (This makes them similar to plant nodes, which can give 2 × 1 ingredients in a single harvest.)
No I’ve gotten bonus ore once in a while. But I thought that happens more often Wed and Thurs which I merely associated with WvW bonuses (beyond getting extra swings).
Don’t remember getting any extra ore on a Friday night.
Hmm, I’ll have to pay more attention when I’m mining ore then, but I’m still quite certain I haven’t gotten bonus ore like that before. I harvest EVERYTHING I come across, and while I do notice the bonus wood, I haven’t ever noticed the bonus ore (this is all with the Molten pick), which strikes me as odd.
Hmm, I’ll have to pay more attention when I’m mining ore then, but I’m still quite certain I haven’t gotten bonus ore like that before. I harvest EVERYTHING I come across, and while I do notice the bonus wood, I haven’t ever noticed the bonus ore (this is all with the Molten pick), which strikes me as odd.
If you’re farming Orichalcum, you tend to notice the bonus ore a lore more lol.
I’m currently testing with 3 picks on copper nodes:
1. The Watchwork Pick
2. The Molten Alliance Pick
3. Standard Copper Pick
I need more samples, but so far #1 has produced no bonus ores.
Hmm, I’ll have to pay more attention when I’m mining ore then, but I’m still quite certain I haven’t gotten bonus ore like that before. I harvest EVERYTHING I come across, and while I do notice the bonus wood, I haven’t ever noticed the bonus ore (this is all with the Molten pick), which strikes me as odd.
You don’t ever get more than 3 ores out of 3 picks, however sometimes you can pick 4-6 times. Wood can also sometimes be harvested for max 6 times and herbs up to 4 times.
However that also can only happen on your home server and not on guest servers.
Wood and herbs can also give sometimes 2 items per try on all servers, normal ore nodes not.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
Hmm, I’ll have to pay more attention when I’m mining ore then, but I’m still quite certain I haven’t gotten bonus ore like that before. I harvest EVERYTHING I come across, and while I do notice the bonus wood, I haven’t ever noticed the bonus ore (this is all with the Molten pick), which strikes me as odd.
You don’t ever get more than 3 ores out of 3 picks, however sometimes you can pick 4-6 times. Wood can also sometimes be harvested for max 6 times and herbs up to 4 times.
However that also can only happen on your home server and not on guest servers.
Wood and herbs can also give sometimes 2 items per try on all servers, normal ore nodes not.
Not true. You can get up to 6 ores with 3 pick attempts. The likelihood of that happening appears to be statistically impossible, but getting 4 ores with 3 pick attempts is relatively common.
Not true. You can get up to 6 ores with 3 pick attempts. The likelihood of that happening appears to be statistically impossible, but getting 4 ores with 3 pick attempts is relatively common.
Never saw that beside rich iron nodes and maybe some other rich nodes. Even rich gold never gives more than 1 per pick.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
Rich Iron nodes are unique in that they provide you with a stack of 2 ores per pick attempt. I’m talking about two stacks of 1 ore per pick attempt, which is the very rare bonus ore.
Mmm, well, I’ll keep an open mind. After one night of my standard (mapping + harvest everything) gameplay, and keeping a careful eye on my harvesting, no bonus ores were given while harvesting Silver, Iron, Gold or Platinum nodes. (This includes one Rich Platinum Vein.) All of this was done with the Molten Pick.
As to Orichalcum nodes, I run Obsidian Sanctum once every day and always harvest the nodes in there. The normal Ori nodes have always given me 3 Ori total (discounting bonus strikes); considering I farmed almost 1000 Badges of Honor purely from Obsidian Sanctum, the odds of me never getting 2 ores from a single strike seem astronomical to me. The only exception to this is on the rare occasion when a Rich Ori Vein shows up in there, and it gives you 4 (the first strike gives you 2 Ori instead of 1).
Again, all this Ori harvesting was done with the Molten Pick.
Mmm, well, I’ll keep an open mind. After one night of my standard (mapping + harvest everything) gameplay, and keeping a careful eye on my harvesting, no bonus ores were given while harvesting Silver, Iron, Gold or Platinum nodes. (This includes one Rich Platinum Vein.) All of this was done with the Molten Pick.
As to Orichalcum nodes, I run Obsidian Sanctum once every day and always harvest the nodes in there. The normal Ori nodes have always given me 3 Ori total (discounting bonus strikes); considering I farmed almost 1000 Badges of Honor purely from Obsidian Sanctum, the odds of me never getting 2 ores from a single strike seem astronomical to me. The only exception to this is on the rare occasion when a Rich Ori Vein shows up in there, and it gives you 4 (the first strike gives you 2 Ori instead of 1).
Again, all this Ori harvesting was done with the Molten Pick.
I’m actually starting to think that all of the unlimited picks are currently afflicted with the lack of bonus ores.
I’ve got several thousand samples now with 3 separate picks and both the Molten Alliance and Watchwork Picks have not given me any bonus ores. I did get a few bonus ores while using an Orichalcum pick.
Perhaps the percentage is quite low and I need more data, but I’m starting to lean towards calling it a bug (either it was a bug before that got fixed, or it is a bug now).
I still have some chars that use normal Orichalcum Picks and they also never get 2 Ori in one pick. Also harvested really a lot iron and gold in Dredgehaunt Cliffs with Darksteel Picks, and never got 2.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
“last pick you will ever need” were the words used or something very close to it (do correct me if i am wrong; my memory isn’t the greatest)
I have a molten pick (8 of em). I need it to get me some sprockets. Is it possible for a mining pick to get you sprockets? Yes. Is my pick capable of doing that? No. Do I need a different mining pick for it to be possible? Yes. Hmm…
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
and you can get unlimited sprockets with the pick, way more then your 1000……
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
“last pick you will ever need” were the words used or something very close to it (do correct me if i am wrong; my memory isn’t the greatest)
I have a molten pick (8 of em). I need it to get me some sprockets. Is it possible for a mining pick to get you sprockets? Yes. Is my pick capable of doing that? No. Do I need a different mining pick for it to be possible? Yes. Hmm…
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
and you can get unlimited sprockets with the pick, way more then your 1000……
You didn’t really get the point … if the argument is if you NEED sprockets and that makes the pick OPed, the argument is nonsense because you don’t need unlimited numbers of them months from now. If you NEED them, it’s because you need them now and you only need enough to make a finite amount of gear.
… therefore if you are buying a pick because you need sprockets, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
MikeyGrey, the Gift of Sprockets Sprocket Generator node is a mining node. This means, technically, its possible to mine sprockets with any pickaxe, including MAMP.
You missed the point. I want the pick to be capable of mining sprockets from any/all nodes. Isn’t that what the newest pick is capable of? (could be wrong; i didn’t buy one yet)
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
Value of sprockets is completely irrelevant. Its the actual ability that I am after.
Be who you are and say what you feel,
because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind
Value of sprockets is completely irrelevant. Its the actual ability that I am after.
That’s not a very genuine statement. Obviously collecting sprockets has some value to you, whether you want to use them or sell them. having the ability to get them ‘just because’ isn’t really a strong position to justify getting a refund on older picks or an upgrade.
Maybe for you that’s true but most people will buy the pick because they want sprockets to use or sell, not just to collect. How you desire to use the farmed materials it doesn’t invalidate the statement that older picks are the last ones people will need because people buy picks because they need ore and the older picks always give ore.
Value of sprockets is completely irrelevant. Its the actual ability that I am after.
That’s not a very genuine statement. Obviously collecting sprockets has some value to you, whether you want to use them or sell them. having the ability to get them ‘just because’ isn’t really a strong position to justify getting a refund on older picks or an upgrade.
And why not? I like collecting things. I have all the nodes in my home instance but almost never mine any. The point is to have the option. What i do with my possessions is for me to decide. Just because I have it doesn’t mean I have to use it. It needs to be there accessible and ready for use whenever.
Be who you are and say what you feel,
because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind
No the were not advertised as BiS. They were advertised as infinite and able to mine all ores.
“last pick you will ever need” were the words used or something very close to it (do correct me if i am wrong; my memory isn’t the greatest)
I have a molten pick (8 of em). I need it to get me some sprockets. Is it possible for a mining pick to get you sprockets? Yes. Is my pick capable of doing that? No. Do I need a different mining pick for it to be possible? Yes. Hmm…
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
and you can get unlimited sprockets with the pick, way more then your 1000……
You didn’t really get the point … if the argument is if you NEED sprockets and that makes the pick OPed, the argument is nonsense because you don’t need unlimited numbers of them months from now. If you NEED them, it’s because you need them now and you only need enough to make a finite amount of gear.
… therefore if you are buying a pick because you need sprockets, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
Again … if you are getting this pick just because you want to sell sprockets, you haven’t done a cost benefit assessment of the pick. To borrow from another thread:
“It will take you over SEVENTY-SIX THOUSAND swings of that pick to recover the value you would have gotten if you just turned the gems into gold, right now, today. Even if the value of the sprockets quadrupled, we are still talking about TENS OF THOUSANDS of swings.”
If you believe this is a good money making opportunity, I wish you luck.
Value of sprockets is completely irrelevant. Its the actual ability that I am after.
That’s not a very genuine statement. Obviously collecting sprockets has some value to you, whether you want to use them or sell them. having the ability to get them ‘just because’ isn’t really a strong position to justify getting a refund on older picks or an upgrade.
Maybe for you that’s true but most people will buy the pick because they want sprockets to use or sell, not just to collect. How you desire to use the farmed materials it doesn’t invalidate the statement that older picks are the last ones people will need because people buy picks because they need ore and the older picks always give ore.
If you want to talk about how to get the most value from that 1000 gems, the answer would be to just convert them to gold. Buying an unlimited pick is just not worth it, if you do the calculations.
Again … if you are getting this pick just because you want to sell sprockets, you haven’t done a cost benefit assessment of the pick. To borrow from another thread:
“It will take you over SEVENTY-SIX THOUSAND swings of that pick to recover the value you would have gotten if you just turned the gems into gold, right now, today. Even if the value of the sprockets quadrupled, we are still talking about TENS OF THOUSANDS of swings.”
If you believe this is a good money making opportunity, I wish you luck.
oh wow, but speed runs in dungeons, QD trains and fractures are a benefit to you?……
also, you probably already did far more swings then the thousands of swings you claim we need to make, you get there faster then you think.
Again … if you are getting this pick just because you want to sell sprockets, you haven’t done a cost benefit assessment of the pick. To borrow from another thread:
“It will take you over SEVENTY-SIX THOUSAND swings of that pick to recover the value you would have gotten if you just turned the gems into gold, right now, today. Even if the value of the sprockets quadrupled, we are still talking about TENS OF THOUSANDS of swings.”
If you believe this is a good money making opportunity, I wish you luck.
oh wow, but speed runs in dungeons, QD trains and fractures are a benefit to you?……
I don’t get what those things have to do with infinite mining pick so … ?
As for the number of swings … the point again is lost on you … If you NEED sprockets for gear, the pick is not how you should get them. If you NEED sprockets because you want to sell them to make money, you’re probably looking to flip swampland IRL.
Again … if you are getting this pick just because you want to sell sprockets, you haven’t done a cost benefit assessment of the pick. To borrow from another thread:
“It will take you over SEVENTY-SIX THOUSAND swings of that pick to recover the value you would have gotten if you just turned the gems into gold, right now, today. Even if the value of the sprockets quadrupled, we are still talking about TENS OF THOUSANDS of swings.”
If you believe this is a good money making opportunity, I wish you luck.
oh wow, but speed runs in dungeons, QD trains and fractures are a benefit to you?……
I don’t get what those things have to do with infinite mining pick so … ?
As for the number of swings … the point again is lost on you … If you NEED sprockets for gear, the pick is not how you should get them. If you NEED sprockets because you want to sell them to make money, you’re probably looking to flip swampland IRL.
good luck then, ill be swimming in gold while you’re just scraping by.
and btw, i bought my bone pick with real money, it costs me zero gold.
if, by chance, you’re trying to defend this with the notion of “ill buy it with gold→gem exchange” you’re not really showing your support, more your greed.
Yes, swimming in Gold from selling sprockets at 40c per at a 30% chance to drop while you have ignored your initial capital investment. Can’t wait … literally, since it will take you half a year just to break even.
You need to chill out. Seriously. NO ONE is being ripped off. NOTHING is being made obsolete. The math has been done, and it takes over seventy-five thousand swings before you’d actually get enough sprockets to pay for it.
That’s based on the fact that 1000 gems can be converted to gold at 61.10 gold as of yesterday afternoon If you base it on how much gold you have to convert to gems, it’s EVEN MORE.
Transcribed from another thread:
Let’s do some basic math here, using today’s values.
This pick costs 1,000 gems. If I bought 1,000 gems and converted it directly to gold, which people have been able to do since day one… I would get 61.10g, give or take a couple silver, at the conversion as of 5 minutes ago. Value of a sprocket was 38c when I looked. For the sake of simplicity let’s call it 40c.
To recap:
1,000 gems = 1 pick OR 61.10g
1 sprocket = 40c (0.0040g)
Avg swings per sprocket = 5
avg sprocket value per swing = 8c
Q: How many ores would I have to mine for this pick to pay for itself and therefore start actually paying off financially? (We are only discussing the benefits of the sprockets since this is the only part of the pick that is different from the last 2 and thus generating all the kittening).
A:
61.10g / 0.0040g (sprocket value) = 15275 sprockets to cancel out redeemable value of gems
(15275 sprockets) x (5 swings per sprocket) = 76375 total swings.
It will take you over SEVENTY-SIX THOUSAND swings of that pick to recover the value you would have gotten if you just turned the gems into gold, right now, today. Even if the value of the sprockets quadrupled, we are still talking about TENS OF THOUSANDS of swings.
This is not, nor will it ever be, a material advantage to anyone, any more than it would have been to just convert their gems to gold in the first place.
MikeyGrey, the Gift of Sprockets Sprocket Generator node is a mining node. This means, technically, its possible to mine sprockets with any pickaxe, including MAMP.
You missed the point. I want the pick to be capable of mining sprockets from any/all nodes. Isn’t that what the newest pick is capable of? (could be wrong; i didn’t buy one yet)
It is the last pick you will ever need because the purpose of the pick is to get ore and it does that. If you did the cost benefit analysis, you would realize that 1K gems would buy you thousands of sprockets … if you are buying the pick for sprockets because you NEED them, you haven’t put that much thought into it in terms of time or cost.
Value of sprockets is completely irrelevant. Its the actual ability that I am after.
You are after an ability that is immaterial and irrelevant. Why are you so obsessed with it? If it really means that much to you, pay 60+ gold for a pick that has the most tiny, insignificant bonus feature ever, but stop complaining that things get better as time goes on. If you buy a computer today, you can buy the same one 6 months from now for less, or you can buy a better one for the same money. THAT IS HOW LIFE WORKS. Products improve, they evolve, they get better. I’m not going to cry to lenovo that their new laptops are better than the one I bought a year ago, nor am I going to complain to samsung that my phone is “made obsolete” by their new phone, nor am I going to get mad at Nissan that this year’s model of my car has more features than mine did from last year. Why should I complain to anet that my molten pick, that I’ve enjoyed thoroughly for close to a year does not have a tiny little feature that the new pick has?
Yes, swimming in Gold from selling sprockets at 40c per at a 30% chance to drop while you have ignored your initial capital investment. Can’t wait … literally, since it will take you half a year just to break even.
so, are you in any rush?
i am not, why rush when i can just enjoy the game without worrying about my pick breaking all the time.
Yes, swimming in Gold from selling sprockets at 40c per at a 30% chance to drop while you have ignored your initial capital investment. Can’t wait … literally, since it will take you half a year just to break even.
so, are you in any rush?
i am not, why rush when i can just enjoy the game without worrying about my pick breaking all the time.
I don’t get the relevance, much like your other points. Nothing I said changes:
Sprocket Pick is a bad investment if it’s to make gold and if you need spockets for gear, it’s more effective and economical to just buy them.
Yes, swimming in Gold from selling sprockets at 40c per at a 30% chance to drop while you have ignored your initial capital investment. Can’t wait … literally, since it will take you half a year just to break even.
so, are you in any rush?
i am not, why rush when i can just enjoy the game without worrying about my pick breaking all the time.
The point is that you completely missed the point here. This thread was a pool of tears over how the molten pick is made “obsolete” by the sprocket dropping effect of the clockwork pick. The point of all these rebuttals is that, financially, it’s 99.999% irrelevant that the pick drops sprockets becaause they are worth a neglibile amount of money. No one here cares how useful you find the permanent effect of the pick. Both of these picks have this feature so it is completely irrelevant in comparing the two of them.
Except that that’s not what we’re concerned about. What we’re REALLY concerned about is the potential this has to turn into a “gear treadmill” of tools. Now that ANet has set the bar higher for the unlimited tools with the Watchwork Pick, future tools will either need to match or exceed what the Watchwork Pick can do, or players just won’t buy it. If ANet brings back the Molten Pick, for example, why would players ever buy it when they know the Watchwork Pick can do what it does + free sprockets?
Sure, there will be some players who would still buy the Molten Pick because of aesthetics, but gamers as a whole are ruthlessly calculative when it comes to picking “the best” for themselves. Sales would be very low, so in order to ensure players keep “upgrading”, ANet would have to keep making the tools better and better.
So if we let anet add a 8 copper per-swing benefit to a pick eventually what, humans and charr will be allowed to get married? Give me a break. This is the equivalent of worrying about global air quality because one person farts too much. If all it takes is an 8c/swing benefit to overcome the impulse control of enough people to keep the gemstore alive, we have NOTHING to worry about. If anything, the benefit of this pick keeping sprockets both available and affordable far outweigh the negative effects of this hilariously tiny “gear treadmill” that literally takes tens of thousands of uses to pay itself off.
I’ve got over 2k hours “played” on my account and I’m not even sure if I’ve mined 300 full stacks of ore yet (the amount needed to make upgrading from molten to this pick profitable) IN THE LIFE OF MY ACCOUNT. I’m a pretty active player, so for even casuals, it would probably take over a year after buying this pick before it could even pay itself off. If it takes a year of the game for a “gear treadmill” to actually matter, especially on an item that isn’t even actually gear, people seriously need to just find something more important to worry about.
It’s not a slippery slope. The undeniable fact is that the Watchwork Pick is better than any other pick available to players. As I mentioned previously, now that the bar has been set higher, ANet HAS to maintain this quality or better with future tools, or players just won’t buy it. It’s basic marketing wisdom. If Apple started selling future iPhones that all offered less features than your current version, would you “upgrade” or simply keep using your old one?
Yes, buying the unlimited tools to make money is a fool’s errand. Nobody’s questioning that. People bought the unlimited tools purely for convenience (never have to worry about buying more tools/swapping tools ever again) or aesthetics (I like seeing fancy particles when I harvest!). But the Watchwork Pick is the first tool that offers a tangible extra benefit above these two factors, and it represents a distinct shift in ANet’s previous stance that “gemstore items are for cosmetic and convenience purposes only”. Given that there’s been nothing but silence from ANet on this whole issue, I’m certain the Watchwork Pick won’t be the last. I’m just very wary of where this road might lead.
Oh, and personally speaking, I’d be ALL for humans and Charr being able to get married.
ANet doesn’t HAVE too up the next tool. This pick may be a one off never to return. Future Gem Store gathering tools may only produce mats that game bought gathering tools can. That’s how you stop the slippery slope.
ANet doesn’t HAVE too up the next tool. This pick may be a one off never to return. Future Gem Store gathering tools may only produce mats that game bought gathering tools can. That’s how you stop the slippery slope.
“Oops, we went to far. It’ll never happen again.”
I dunno, to me it seems like when Anet figures out something new they suddenly use it everywhere until their next ‘brilliant’ idea. For instance the super adventure box king frog ground slam that sends a shockwave outward. They have reused that on a few different bosses (tequatl). Also lets not forget the whole walk onto a position and it makes you jump really high in the air. That has been used in new jumping puzzles, mini games, and even a pvp arena.
The undeniable fact is that the Watchwork Pick is better than any other pick available to players.
It’s not. It’s more expensive than the other picks. For some people, that makes it worse, especially considering the crap value of the items you get from the bonus sprocket drop.
@Behellagh: I hope so, but then you’d still have a case of people running around in the game with better tools than anybody can get. It may be small enough (and if sprockets continue to remain relatively cheap) that ANet can just ignore it, but if the price for Sprockets somehow skyrockets, then it’d be something they’d have to address.
At this stage I’m fairly certain that ANet wants to keep the Watchwork Pick as it is. The only question now is whether the Pick will be the last, or whether they have plans to introduce new tools/upgrade the existing tools so they also have special innate bonuses.
@Obtena: That’s one way of looking at it, but by that same argument, Ascended gear is also “not better” since it’s ridiculously expensive for a marginal benefit over Exotic. And yet, the high prices for T7 mats and Ascended recipes says that there are lots of players in the game still going for Ascended gear.
@Obtena: That’s one way of looking at it, but by that same argument, Ascended gear is also “not better” since it’s ridiculously expensive for a marginal benefit over Exotic. And yet, the high prices for T7 mats and Ascended recipes says that there are lots of players in the game still going for Ascended gear.
The number of players going for it is not indicative that it’s ‘undeniably the best pick’ though. It just happens to be the only one you can purchase right now.
I’ve mentioned this somewhere, I think we can all expect new unlimited tools to have bonus mats to drop as well (with the increase in price over the base unlimited tools like the pick). New skins on unlimited farming tools can’t pay the bills forever.
IF they do that, then I hope they make it retroactive as well, since the Bone Pick and the Watchwork Pick both cost 1000 gems, yet the Watchwork Pick has the sprockets while the Bone Pick doesn’t. (Technically the Molten Pick now costs 1000 gems too, as shown by the 2850 gems discounted price for all 3 tools during the New Year’s sale.)
OK, I see. In case people aren’t aware, you can trade in soulbound for equivalent accountbound …. at no extra cost. Some salt in the wound there I know.
The Molten Picks were sold at 800 gems, except when they were re-released during the New Year’s sale, when they were worth 1000 gems (the entire package sold at 2850 gems, but I’m discounting that since it’s obviously a discount to entice people to buy all 3 at once). And yes, I’m aware they can be traded in for account-bound versions for free (did that post-haste when the update went out, and I even kept all 5 of my Molten Picks rather than getting refunds).
The Bone Pick, on the other hand, was account-bound from the start and was always worth 1000 gems. So, in terms of price value, all 3 Picks are now worth exactly the same, but the Watchwork Pick gives extra value while the other two don’t.
