Guild Wars 2

Hey, what’s the best use for my tome of knowledge to get money out of them? I got more than 1k of those and they’re piling up for nothing in my bank. If I ever want to spend skill points, what I get from the game is already largely enough so those tomes are really taking space I could use better.

Any idea?

Can always pick up a bunch of Ectos and then craft and sell The Anomaly. That is what I usually do when I hit 250 skill points to make a quick 100-110 gold profit after the expense of gathering a stack of ectos from buy orders.

That can take a while, though, due to all the bots mass-updating their buy orders every 4 minutes, so takes a large chunk of time to sit there updating yours individually while they update dozens and dozens of them instantaneously. I usually accumulate ectos at about half the rate I accumulate skill points through regular gameplay though, so I don’t have to play the ‘bidding against bots’ game for very long to finish up the other half of the stack after hitting 250 skill points.

Sylvari.6083:

StinVec.3621:

Can always pick up a bunch of Ectos and then craft and sell The Anomaly. That is what I usually do when I hit 250 skill points to make a quick 100-110 gold profit after the expense of gathering a stack of ectos from buy orders.

That can take a while, though, due to all the bots mass-updating their buy orders every 4 minutes, so takes a large chunk of time to sit there updating yours individually while they update dozens and dozens of them instantaneously. I usually accumulate ectos at about half the rate accumulate the skill points through regular gameplay though, so I don’t have to play the ‘bidding against bots’ game for very long to finish up the other half of the stack after hitting 250 skill points.

How do you turn skillpoints to ectos?

I know of no way to turn skill points into ectos. I did not make mention of such an action. I actually discussed acquiring ectos from salvaging rares acquired from the TP and through gameplay. I did mention that I do acquire ectos (through salvaging rares acquired during gameplay) at about half the rate at which I acquire the 250 skills points needed to craft The Anomaly.

I’m not seeing how you can make 100 gold making the Anomaly, at least not now. If you bought a stack of ectos for 37 silver each, that’s 92.5 gold. Assuming no value for the 250 skill points or the 100 mystic coins, if you sold the Anomaly at the current price of 140 gold, that gives you 47.5 gold profit. If you hold out for 150 gold then that’s 57.5 gold. If you place a value on the skill points and the mystic coins then it’s even less.

Look online for sp → gold spreadsheets.

I think the general consensus is to promote refined cloth (or other materials) in the Mystic Flusher as the best way to turn Skill Points into Gold. Claims of 3 – 6 gold per SP are common.

Be wary of on-line instructions that “recommend” BLTP markets. Best case, they can be woefully outdated and worst case, the author is trying to “manipulate” those markets with their suggestions.

Brother Grimm.5176:

I think the general consensus is to promote refined cloth (or other materials) in the Mystic Flusher as the best way to turn Skill Points into Gold. Claims of 3 – 6 gold per SP are common.

Be wary of on-line instructions that “recommend” BLTP markets. Best case, they can be woefully outdated and worst case, the author is trying to “manipulate” those markets with their suggestions.

Not much familiar with the Mystic Forge, but isn’t the recipe for higher quality gear four gear of the same quality ?

AnAspieKitten.5732:

Brother Grimm.5176:

I think the general consensus is to promote refined cloth (or other materials) in the Mystic Flusher as the best way to turn Skill Points into Gold. Claims of 3 – 6 gold per SP are common.

Be wary of on-line instructions that “recommend” BLTP markets. Best case, they can be woefully outdated and worst case, the author is trying to “manipulate” those markets with their suggestions.

Not much familiar with the Mystic Forge, but isn’t the recipe for higher quality gear four gear of the same quality ?

He was talking about promoting common mats, not gear.

Buy 500 of a T1 mat, 50 T2 dusts, and 1 of the T2 mats. Spend one skill point to get 10 philosopher’s stone. Convert those T1 mats into T2 mats in the mystic toilet. Depending on the mats, you can make a tidy profit. Same thing with other tiers of materials, just takes more skill points.

Now, I throw the BS flag on claims of 3-6 gold per SP, but depending on the mat you can usually make roughly 50 silver per skill point, and with luck on the randoms you can make more. Not much, but 200 skill scrolls in the bank can make you a tidy 100g with a bit of time investment.

The other option is to buy eldritch scrolls at 50 skill points a pop to make weapons. Those are a little bit more iffy. You can sometimes make 2-3 gold profit-per-skill point on those, but you usually need an investment of several hundred gold to make the weapon before you can sell it. And since weapons don’t sell as readily as the crafting materials, it can be weeks before you see that return. And if you have to keep taking it off the market and re-listing at a lower price, enough times doing that can eat away your profit from the listing fees.

Eldritch weapons have a bigger return, but crafting materials are far more consistant. Your choice.

Case in point. Someone mentioned The Anomaly. At current market rates, if you buy the ectos yourself to make it, your profit will be about 8 silver per skill point (Takes 250 to make that one). Granted, significantly more profit if you have the ectos sitting around waiting to go instead of buying them on the TP.

Immobulus gives a much better return of 4g per skill point at current market prices, but it takes over 500g to make that one.

Dakota.4591:

Buy 500 of a T1 mat, 50 T2 dusts, and 1 of the T2 mats. Spend one skill point to get 10 philosopher’s stone. Convert those T1 mats into T2 mats in the mystic toilet. Depending on the mats, you can make a tidy profit. Same thing with other tiers of materials, just takes more skill points.

Now, I throw the BS flag on claims of 3-6 gold per SP, but depending on the mat you can usually make roughly 50 silver per skill point…

3-6g per SP arent BS. You are just promoting the wrong t1 mats.

As of right now, promoting bloods from T1 -> T2 returns about 44s per skill point assuming an average return of 16 per combine, 51s per skill point assuming your return is 20. If you hit the max roll of 40 for all ten combines for one skill point, you’re barely topping 1g. And that is the highest-return T1 mat on the market right now.

The only way you could feasibly be making 3-6g per skill point on mats is if you’re farming the mats yourself. Which theoretically is an option. Not so much if you plan on personally farming 500,000 T1 mats to burn through the 1k skill scrolls the OP has sitting around.

Edited since writing “to” after “T1” triggers the profanity filter for some reason.

Anet needs to fix the mystic forge interface before I go selling all my skill points again.

I tried a 3rd time to get into the mood of promoting but I just couldn’t do it..

It would take me a month to sell all my skill points.

Dakota.4591:

As of right now, promoting bloods from T1 -> T2 returns about 44s per skill point assuming an average return of 16 per combine, 51s per skill point assuming your return is 20. If you hit the max roll of 40 for all ten combines for one skill point, you’re barely topping 1g. And that is the highest-return T1 mat on the market right now.

The only way you could feasibly be making 3-6g per skill point on mats is if you’re farming the mats yourself. Which theoretically is an option. Not so much if you plan on personally farming 500,000 T1 mats to burn through the 1k skill scrolls the OP has sitting around.

Edited since writing “to” after “T1” triggers the profanity filter for some reason.

You do realize that there are other types of T1 mats and not just T1 fine mats yes?

fishball.7204:

Dakota.4591:

As of right now, promoting bloods from T1 -> T2 returns about 44s per skill point assuming an average return of 16 per combine, 51s per skill point assuming your return is 20. If you hit the max roll of 40 for all ten combines for one skill point, you’re barely topping 1g. And that is the highest-return T1 mat on the market right now.

The only way you could feasibly be making 3-6g per skill point on mats is if you’re farming the mats yourself. Which theoretically is an option. Not so much if you plan on personally farming 500,000 T1 mats to burn through the 1k skill scrolls the OP has sitting around.

Edited since writing “to” after “T1” triggers the profanity filter for some reason.

You do realize that there are other types of T1 mats and not just T1 fine mats yes?

^^

I’m not sure if you guys are just messing with him or what… But:

T1 leather to T2 leather = 15s Loss per SP.

Copper to Iron = 50s Loss per SP

Jute to Wool = 90s Loss per SP

Green to soft Wood = 40s Loss per SP

The losses are halved if you use refined mats instead, but still a loss. You can do copper to silver ingots but that is a 1.9g loss per SP…

Rare kitten T2 mats are also currently at -40 to -90 silver per SP as well.

Mystic posted this a while back.

http://legendsrpg.com/gw2.php?forge=yes

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I’m not sure if you guys are just messing with him or what… But:

T1 leather to T2 leather = 15s Loss per SP.

Copper to Iron = 50s Loss per SP

Jute to Wool = 90s Loss per SP

Green to soft Wood = 40s Loss per SP

The losses are halved if you use refined mats instead, but still a loss. You can do copper to silver ingots but that is a 1.9g loss per SP…

Rare kitten T2 mats are also currently at -40 to -90 silver per SP as well.

^^

fishball.7204:

You do realize that there are other types of T1 mats and not just T1 fine mats yes?

Amazing how some players can never see the forest for the trees…..

If you are promoting unrefined you WILL likely loose money. To promote refined, you don’t buy raw…..silly goose!

Dakota.4591:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I’m not sure if you guys are just messing with him or what… But:

T1 leather to T2 leather = 15s Loss per SP.

Copper to Iron = 50s Loss per SP

Jute to Wool = 90s Loss per SP

Green to soft Wood = 40s Loss per SP

The losses are halved if you use refined mats instead, but still a loss. You can do copper to silver ingots but that is a 1.9g loss per SP…

Rare kitten T2 mats are also currently at -40 to -90 silver per SP as well.

^^

As already mentioned, you never ever promote unrefined. Thats basics, and if you are not smart enough to figure that out, you will most likely not make 3-6g per skillpoint.

Most of the people that claim that those returns arent possible, dont even know how to proper read a spreadsheet, if prices are buy orders or sell listings or when the spreadsheet updated itself.

Buying t1 and selling t2 at the right day of the week also gives you 50-100% more profit. Of course, that isnt mentioned in the spreadsheet.

IF you want to make some proper profit, you have to do some work yourself, otherwise you make as much gold as anybody else.

Behellagh.1468:

Mystic posted this a while back.

http://legendsrpg.com/gw2.php?forge=yes

Glancing over this a number of the recipes are wrong leading to inaccurate profits, sometimes by a very large margin.

If you must use this I would make sure to double check the recipe.

For the items I use it on, the recipes are correct. Each their own.

http://tinyurl.com/gw2-sp-2-gold

or if you want to paste the URL directly…
ec2-174-129-236-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8000/gw2sp2g/

There’s some minor caveats associated with the site, but it will give you the right ballpark for what’s the best bang per skill point.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

http://tinyurl.com/gw2-sp-2-gold

or if you want to paste the URL directly…
ec2-174-129-236-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8000/gw2sp2g/

There’s some minor caveats associated with the site, but it will give you the right ballpark for what’s the best bang per skill point.

That spreadsheet doesnt calculate t1 common mats at all, so why recommend it if it arguably leaves the best option out?
Anyways, i already expressed my opinion on how to use your skillpoints in this topic:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/TP-tips-and-tricks/first

If you want to bother to read up, go ahead. If you want to use outdated or incomplete spreadsheets and waste gold, go ahead.

Wanze.8410:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

http://tinyurl.com/gw2-sp-2-gold

or if you want to paste the URL directly…
ec2-174-129-236-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8000/gw2sp2g/

There’s some minor caveats associated with the site, but it will give you the right ballpark for what’s the best bang per skill point.

That spreadsheet doesnt calculate t1 common mats at all, so why recommend it if it arguably leaves the best option out?
Anyways, i already expressed my opinion on how to use your skillpoints in this topic:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/TP-tips-and-tricks/first

If you want to bother to read up, go ahead. If you want to use outdated or incomplete spreadsheets and waste gold, go ahead.

My apologies.

I recommended it because I forgot that it doesn’t include T1 mats (when that site launched, that was the worst option — high-priced items tended to be the best). Also, I never bother upgrading T1 mats because I find the process of upgrading those too tedious, even for the value.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Wanze.8410:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

http://tinyurl.com/gw2-sp-2-gold

or if you want to paste the URL directly…
ec2-174-129-236-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8000/gw2sp2g/

There’s some minor caveats associated with the site, but it will give you the right ballpark for what’s the best bang per skill point.

That spreadsheet doesnt calculate t1 common mats at all, so why recommend it if it arguably leaves the best option out?
Anyways, i already expressed my opinion on how to use your skillpoints in this topic:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/TP-tips-and-tricks/first

If you want to bother to read up, go ahead. If you want to use outdated or incomplete spreadsheets and waste gold, go ahead.

Also, I never bother upgrading T1 mats because I find the process of upgrading those too tedious, even for the value.

1. get a stack of t1 mats on buy order
2. promote them
3. list the promoted t2 mats
4. get 1 gold

I can do that it less than 50 clicks and thats including the direction keys to move from the tp to the forge.
I can also do that in under 1 minute active game time.

If you have another way of making an average of 2 silver per mouse click at a rate of 60g/h per hour, let us know, please.