Guild Wars 2

So you have to craft 40 master items.

When did laurels start to cost gold?

What will be the impact on the market?

You don’t have to buy these items, you can farm them.

It has always cost gold. Time=money

I understand the concept time = money, and I am not discussing this law. Ipso facto logging into the game means this.

Yeah you could grind Fractals, but the monthly or daily says you must pay xyz amount of gold depending on what you craft.

What I am asking is, when did laurels start to ‘DIRECTLY’ cost gold outright?

(btw, not shouting ‘directly’ above, just capsing it for emphasis as I was not clear in my first post.)

The only reason it’s " costing you gold " is because there is no profit to be made with masterpiece materials.
I make up to 60s profit from each exotic I make. You just need to know what things to make.
Therefore getting my monthly actually made me about 6 gold by crafting exotics. And no, I didnt farm the mats, I bought everything.

Hieronymus.2146:

So you have to craft 40 master items.

When did laurels start to cost gold?

What will be the impact on the market?

You can craft 40 lv80 rare weapons and throw them into the mystic toilet for a 0,00000000000000000000000001% of a precursor. You might get lucky!

Hi Darksanity,

I crafted master and rares and made money and I also bought everything :O

Again, not my point, and not at all what I was asking, please re-read what I asked in the original post.

On a side note: apparently there is a 60s hole in one of the exotic markets that you exploited and filled by crafting your 40 items. Others that might not have made their 40 items yet and might not have been aware of this, and can just head over to spidygw2 quickly and find this hole and maybe make a profit for themselves also. So thanks for helping out some others by sharing Darksanity.

Regarding my second question in my opening post, perhaps this will be one of the ways in which this monthly will ‘impact’ the market.

It will put a lot more items onto the BLTC causing item inflation for those that simply craft without taking the time to seek market inefficiencies?

Hieronymus.2146:

I understand the concept time = money, and I am not discussing this law. Ipso facto logging into the game means this.

Yeah you could grind Fractals, but the monthly or daily says you must pay xyz amount of gold depending on what you craft.

What I am asking is, when did laurels start to ‘DIRECTLY’ cost gold outright?

(btw, not shouting ‘directly’ above, just capsing it for emphasis as I was not clear in my first post.)

This isn’t ‘DIRECTLY’ costing you gold. ‘DIRECTLY’ costing you gold would be “Pay 1gold to vendor 0% complete”

You could farm these items. Therefore if you mean that the time it takes you to farm the crafting materials is gold, then all the dailies cost you gold.

Also as somebody else mentioned, you can make money from this

For me the implication is, if it wasn’t for the laurels you would not craft master quality items or higher.
If you don’t factor in the concept of time as stated above then you can’t factor in the concept of “market value” for the materials needed either.
Yes – you can buy “time” by not farming the materials needed, but you are not buying the laurel even if that is your motivation to do it. “Time” here is the prime motivator – hence the continued exchange of information where to complete whichever category the fastest.

I did not pay anything, I would have leveled my crafting anyways, the incentive was there to do it now instead of later.
The impact on the market, however noticeable, would fall (to me) into the same category as the regular daily crafting category.

I just transmuted a handful of gems into orbs with dust that was laying around.

Gems into orbs or just working on a craft you haven’t levelled yet will get you the achievement in no time. I got it around ~250 in tailoring.

Hieronymus.2146:

So you have to craft 40 master items.

When did laurels start to cost gold?

What will be the impact on the market?

It cost me nothing, and I completed this on the very first day. Although I admit it may cost YOU something, depending on your play style. If you don’t gather while you’re out in the world, you’re losing out.

But that brings up another question. Do you consider the “Gathering” requirement to cost gold too, since you’d have to purchase a sickle, axe, or pick?

Do you consider the “Fractal” requirement to cost gold, since you’d probably need to repair your armor?

Or perhaps you consider the “Mystic Forge” requirement to cost gold, since you need to throw away items to make something?

Make 40 orichalcum plated dowels. You should have tons of ori now, so much so that it’s literally overflowing your bank. 40 dowels gets you the achievement, then you can TP it for a decent hunk of cash or use it to craft exos and sell them. If it’s costing you money, it’s because you want to waste money.

I was just thinking that this months monthly was a way to depress the market by inflating player created items that might be trading at a slight profit. These windows will now be closed up by everyone doing their monthly.

I also felt that this months monthly, was an unabashed means of of acting as a material sink and possible a gold sink, depending on what the player crafted.

I did not look at laurels on the same level as running a fractal, as, this is the same as going for map completion or running a dungeon, or playing WvW.

I also consider the Mystic forge to be exactly the same thing as crafting 40 master items, which is one of the reasons I started this post.

While gathering cost gold, as do most all things in the game, I think there are differences, like categories or classifications of gold sinks and that laurels/achievements were not something that would be used to ‘regulate’, or ‘manipulate’ Rare Materials and Gold by acting as a direct Sink.

Rather, laurels were something that you did, along side running fractals, gathering, running dungeons so on and so forth.

Hieronymus.2146:

Hi Darksanity,

I crafted master and rares and made money and I also bought everything :O

Again, not my point, and not at all what I was asking, please re-read what I asked in the original post.

On a side note: apparently there is a 60s hole in one of the exotic markets that you exploited and filled by crafting your 40 items. Others that might not have made their 40 items yet and might not have been aware of this, and can just head over to spidygw2 quickly and find this hole and maybe make a profit for themselves also. So thanks for helping out some others by sharing Darksanity.

Regarding my second question in my opening post, perhaps this will be one of the ways in which this monthly will ‘impact’ the market.

It will put a lot more items onto the BLTC causing item inflation for those that simply craft without taking the time to seek market inefficiencies?

Ah, I must have misunderstood your main question/statement then.
Yes, eventually that 60s gap will be filled, but there are other gaps which one can try out which may even net a profit of 11 gold. It just requires a good investment, and many people are rather scared to invest with money over 30 gold.
I’m currently thinking about investing in 400 gold to make 550g on a single item. I won’t reveal the name of this, but It can provide great profits to be made.

Sorry for going off-topic.