My Thoughts on The 'Extractor' Being Added

My Thoughts on The 'Extractor' Being Added

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Posted by: Talonblaze.3175

Talonblaze.3175

As many have pointed out, the new extractor seems to be far from its worth overall compared to simply outright buying the sigil once again (save for a few rare exceptions).

However, reading through a few more posts and topics, one thing did come to mind that was a valid notation and that is with Ascended items.

At the current moment, Ascended items (not sure about weapons or armor) can’t be salvaged. This makes even the BLSK useless in terms of recovering Sigils/Runes from gear as it simply isn’t an option.
Taking that into perspective, another thought came into mind as the Extractor would primarily be for people with Ascended gear. Then it came to me, perhaps thats EXACTLY what its planned for?

As ANet has mentioned before, they’ve been trying to avoid the ‘power creep’ in terms of the gear treadmill of just getting better stats. But they’ve also expressed interest in improving/changing/adding new sigils and runes. What I think is the current process going on is that a new sets of Runes/Sigils will start to be tied to Ascended or a similar style of gear. Unsalvagable, therefore in order to recover any upgrades that would be desired you will need to purchase the Extractor or else you must face the continued RNG monster and hope you find an item with the stats and the new sigil/rune you desire. Being account bound, this would make things even more incredibly difficult to obtain than normal gear.

Depending on what these new upgrades possess, it might very well see a different change in its value in terms of the market and playerbase due to it being the only reliable way to ensure optimal play without an even more extensive grind. This is why I think it’s priced so high. It’s brilliant if you think about it.

However, this is just a possibility and merely an assumption of what I think is going on. Perhaps it is just for some basic upgrade removals and was never intended for anything more and its value was over estimated. Guess we’ll see.

What do you guys think?

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Posted by: jazzllanna.1278

jazzllanna.1278

Well I doubt that and sincerely hope that is not the plan. If you add something like that to the gemstore that cannot be realistically avoided that is going to cause some issues with the player base.

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Posted by: Healix.5819

Healix.5819

If they added ascended upgrades, they’re going to either be very rare drops or crafted. I doubt they’d even make then forgeable using exotics, due to the massive dump that would cause. They would never drop them as gear pieces that had to be extracted, and even if they did, ascended gear would be so common at that point, they would have made them salvageable. Nothing in the gem store has ever been required.

You also have to factor the possibility of legendary upgrades, which would be worth a lot more than an extractor. I imagine legendary upgrades could be as simple as allowing you to swap stats and/or add a weapon effect.

With the current progression discussion they’re doing, they should begin to reveal just how far they’re willing to go. Infusions for example were confirmed a long time ago to be the next thing to get upgraded, but now that’s up for debate.

With current exotic upgrades however, the extractor is not worth it, nor was it meant to be. Think about what would happen if it was cheaper to reuse your upgrades rather than to buy them. Eventually, everyone would have the upgrades they wanted and no longer have to buy them, causing the prices to eventually be capped at that of the extractor, which in the end, will mean that players are spending less gold, which is related to how much gold vs money players spend. ArenaNet is losing out on short term gains, but in the long term, they’re not.

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Posted by: froacus.6892

froacus.6892

the extractor is fantastic for ascended gear and the new agony or old laurel infusions.

they provide a great option to change my 20% goldfind infusion for a 20% mf infusion, without having to basically destroy 20 laurels.

additionally, they are quite useful once you start to get higher agony infusions, as they start to get quite expensive.

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Posted by: Allisa Wonderland.8192

Allisa Wonderland.8192

Definitely for the infused bits. Now if only there was an soulbound to account bound converter … I wouldn’t have to buy more ascended trinkets

Oh, thinking more, I can recover my soon to be unused +4 infusions…

Well thanks for being ArenaNET salespeople!