Guild Wars 2

Stop selling items in the TP at 1 cooper more than then basic price, thats kitten , you pay for put items in the TP so you will get more money just selling it to a basic merchant, is pretty obvious but most of the people seems not to understand that.

Why does it bother you? I for one like the 1 copper items..
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It bother me because is impossible to sell most of the items cause most of them are sold at a final earning LOWER than the one you get from a basic merchant, and sell a green item to a basic merchant is sad.

Capo.9604:

Stop selling items in the TP at 1 cooper more than then basic price, thats kitten , you pay for put items in the TP so you will get more money just selling it to a basic merchant, is pretty obvious but most of the people seems not to understand that.

Firstly, I suspect most of the people who do this aren’t reading this subforum.

Secondly, if there are a lot of items listed for sale at 1c above vendor price, it’s pretty safe to assume there is very little demand for those items, and you may as well just vendor yours anyway. Yes, some people are losing money by posting at this price, but at least they are signalling to you that it’s not worth trying to TP that item.

Capo.9604:

It bother me because is impossible to sell most of the items cause most of them are sold at a final earning LOWER than the one you get from a basic merchant, and sell a green item to a basic merchant is sad.

I know what you mean about green items however, I save the ones I can’t sell on TP up and sacrifice them to the gods of RNG (aka the Mystic Forge). Sure, it’s not the most cost effective thing to do, but getting an occasional rare (or even just a green that will sell) feels more rewarding to me.

Stop!!!!! Hammer time ?

Astraea.6075:

Firstly, I suspect most of the people who do this aren’t reading this subforum.

That’s where you’re wrong!

I do this all the time, posting sell orders at 1c above the merchant price. Sure I’m losing a few copper compared to what I’d get from a merchant, but it’s well worth it to know that by doing so I’m ruining the fun for thousands of people.

majorkong.9073:

Astraea.6075:

Firstly, I suspect most of the people who do this aren’t reading this subforum.

That’s where you’re wrong!

I do this all the time, posting sell orders at 1c above the merchant price. Sure I’m losing a few copper compared to what I’d get from a merchant, but it’s well worth it to know that by doing so I’m ruining the fun for thousands of people.

Note that I said most not all… and well played sir!

Capo.9604:

It bother me because is impossible to sell most of the items cause most of them are sold at a final earning LOWER than the one you get from a basic merchant, and sell a green item to a basic merchant is sad.

So, psychological issues all around huh? What does it matter what color the item is? Crap is crap, and it’s not like greens are even rare. If there was anything special about them, then people wouldn’t be dumping them. Sell that garbage to the vendor and move on.

Leablo.2651:

Capo.9604:

It bother me because is impossible to sell most of the items cause most of them are sold at a final earning LOWER than the one you get from a basic merchant, and sell a green item to a basic merchant is sad.

So, psychological issues all around huh? What does it matter what color the item is? Crap is crap, and it’s not like greens are even rare. If there was anything special about them, then people wouldn’t be dumping them. Sell that garbage to the vendor and move on.

Mmmm no, as i said the TP could be a lot more interesting with people actually understanding how it works. Psychologically seeing people throwing away money just make me laugh.

Capo.9604:

Mmmm no, as i said the TP could be a lot more interesting with people actually understanding how it works. Psychologically seeing people throwing away money just make me laugh.

The main problem with these items is that almost no one wants to buy them, so even if the lowest price was set to vendor price + listing fee, there would still be a stockpile of items there that won’t sell. There are some exceptions, so I always check, but if you see a lot of items listed at a low price with no buy offers, it’s pretty much not worth trying to TP them.

Youre missing the whole point, im not talking about that.

>OP

The point is that if I’m in the middle of farming, and I run out of space in my inventory, I WILL post stuff on the TP for prices that will sell quickly. If that means taking a loss of a few copper here and there to make space in my inventory for Rare and Exotics, so be it.

Sorry mate.

So what exactly is your problem? People are throwing away money?

Capo.9604:

Mmmm no, as i said the TP could be a lot more interesting with people actually understanding how it works. Psychologically seeing people throwing away money just make me laugh.

How would it be more interesting? You’re talking about a difference no greater than the fee. Either way the items affected are all junk status, or the prices would already be higher.

Gosh, I sell all my green items to the PvE merchants. Do I get more on the TP for them??

Capo.9604:

It bother me because is impossible to sell most of the items cause most of them are sold at a final earning LOWER than the one you get from a basic merchant, and sell a green item to a basic merchant is sad.

I would advise checking the prices for green items on the TP before selling them. Most of the time they have 0 demand, or are priced below the merch price, but occasionally you’ll get items that are selling for much higher than the merch price, or even the price of the upgrade on it. I can only assume the people paying these prices are people who want the skin specifically.

There are lots of ways to make money on the TP, but they don’t involve selling low-demand/high-supply items. Maybe the OP is right and people who are selling for vendor +1c should just STOP, but it’s not going to make that much of a difference to the economy if they do.

Let’s say ANet intervened and set a floor price of vendor + 20%, so the lowest price anyone could ask for would earn back the 15% in fees and add a tiny profit. Would this change the economy? Would people be able to make a lot of money? No and no.

First, this doesn’t do anything to the demand for these items. Second, it does little for the supply: everyone selling for vendor + 1c up to vendor +20% would end up selling at that floor price. How about the people selling to the vendor now? Since the supply of vendor +20% items would be high, they have their choice of selling to the vendor for cash now or posting on the TP for a tiny bit more later; they aren’t likely to change their behavior.

And finally, anyone who is new to the game and pinching coppers is going to be (slightly) hurt: they will have to pay 19-20% more for low level weapons than they do now.

These concerns were voiced pretty much immediately after release. At that time however, if I recall correctly, there wasn’t even a minimum price of at least the Vendor’s value then. Any item could be listed well below vendor pricing making the items you speak of an actual loss of profit yet still people put such items up on the TP. It wasn’t until a few weeks post launch that A-Net issued a fix requiring at least a minimum equal to a vendor’s pricing. Believe it or not, people were flamed for pointing out the idiocy in that even.

Now a days, if there isn’t a sigil or rune I want off the item in question, I will look first for someone who can actually use the item and mail it to them no charge (even a complete stranger), failing that, it gets vendored. After a little time observing the market you’ll quickly figure out what items it’s worth bothering to post on the TP (in a really obtuse generic sense, rare items for high level players are all that it’s really even worth posting).

Not exactly on point but relative is the fact that, in most cases, you’ll make a greater profit selling materials than final products from crafting. It’s likely that (even though you may have leveled your craft to 400 and collected the purchased recipes) you may be able to sell your mats, buy the product you intended to craft with them, and still walk away with a profit. How’s that for a big, “WTF went wrong here?” observation of this games current implementation of player driven auction mechanics?

You are assuming, though, that people who sell below vendor are doing so unwittingly. Perhaps some of them are. For others, it’s a matter of charity or convenience. You can sell on the TP from anywhere, vendoring requires a vendor. Anet could have simply posted a warning whenever someone was about to list below vendor, for the ignorant. It ultimately should be the player’s choice what price to sell at.

The crafting system is not a fault in GW2 as much as it is a fault in every MMO crafting system that includes progress bars (WoW and whatever it stole from preceded GW2). People look at it as another form of progression, they want to “max out” and do whatever it takes to get there. So yes, this completely messes up the economy because raw materials produce the crafting XP and the finished items flood the market. This has nothing to do with the TP (which is actually an improvement over an auction house) and more to do with blindly copying a bad idea from other games.

Capo.9604:

you pay for put items in the TP so you will get more money just selling it to a basic merchant

Think of it like a convenience fee for selling items out in the wild. If you are near a vendor sell it to them, otherwise sell it for a few cp less and make room for that other new item you picked up (a net gain).

Sell items at trading post for under merchant buy price has an obvious big advantage; you can clear your inventory without a merchant around…especially useful for greens under level 80 which sell for more than the salvage mats they give. Worth doing for the price of a few copper than paying 4s to travel to a merchant or having your inventory full and not being able to pick things.

Budchgon.2108:

Stop!!!!! Hammer time ?

Collaborate and Listen!

They are good for people leveling alts who want cheap gear.

I bumped up my bag size, and honestly I rarely run out of room in a run anymore.

I’m 99% sure that anything on the TP that is listed at vender + 1c is junk loot that nobody buys. So if you list it then it likely will never sell. Or if it does sell it would take a very long time to sell. So even if the floor price were set to profit 1c over what the vender would give you then you would still be waiting a very long time to get that extra 1c you might as well sell it to the vender.

On the other hand low level crafting stuff is oversupplied and will likely remain that way. There is insufficient demand due to how quickly the gear is made useless. So there isn’t much that can be done for those items except to raise the floor price to 1c profit over vender. Though technically that would still be a loss since the materials used to make the item would net more than the item made. I consider that the price of leveling crafting to get to the stuff that is worth selling. But then I like crafting and profiting is just icing on the cake to me. It’s more about doing the crafting and helping others for me.

Anyways, care to share any item that is at vender + 1c that actually has significant demand?

I also do this and do read this subforum, from time to time. Why? Because the difference between what I would get from a vendor and what I get from the TP is not worth the time I would waste calculating that difference for every single item I sell. I’d just as soon hit “destroy”, but at least this way I get a few copper.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

>OP

The point is that if I’m in the middle of farming, and I run out of space in my inventory, I WILL post stuff on the TP for prices that will sell quickly. If that means taking a loss of a few copper here and there to make space in my inventory for Rare and Exotics, so be it.

Sorry mate.

I believe the above to be the most accurate answer.

I was perplexed by this for a while myself. Why would anyone sell at a loss? …But here we have the answer. It’s simply a matter of convenience when a player is out in the bush with a fat inventory.