Sinnastor{Warrior}Sinnacle{Mesmer}Sintacs
{Thief}
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Dusk is 350g right now on the TP with buy orders at 250. Buy orders basically being like layaway as people collect the money they put in to purchase the weapon. Demand is definitely there
Dusk is the highest marked Precursor on the market as usual.
Immobulus is the second highest NON-Precursor on the Market at 135g its higher than some of the precursors like the scepter. To craft Immobulus will run you about a good 100g plus skill points on top. There are only 231 giant eyes on market right now as I type this. 230 is going to run you 80g and you still need another 20.
Jormags breath there was 1 up yesterday at 135g don’t know if it sold there are 4 now at 99g really amazing looking sword. Will run you about 100g just to make if you buy the mats. 64g or so for the blades and 40g or so for the corrupted lodestones.
These last 2 are the highest NON Precursors priced on the market. The legendary precursors are probably the most wanted precursors on the market. If there are NON precursors selling for about 100+ gold of course precursors will be sold for higher than those.
The people selling them probably don’t care it takes you time to finish it. Think if you wanted to farm and craft Jormags breath or Immobolus not buying the items on TP. That is still going to take you a long time. Seems people aren’t looking at the market right below precursors it only makes sense.
Volcanus and Foe Fire essence recipes havent been found Firebringer was on tp for a day at 135g havent seen it since. The Mesmer weapons havent really hit TP yet either I think axe is like 85g more than the Precursor Mace.
As more Non precursor exotics with cool effects are discovered precursor prices will drop. I doubt by a ton like 60g as long as there is a demand for Non exotics and I am pretty sure Volcanus and Foe Fire will be very expensive. The price for mats makes the non precursors expensive which in turn makes the weapon more expensive I mean the crafter does want a profit I am sure.
Its possible the buy orders are fake maybe but its possible they arent. If people are putting in a bid of 250g maybe they get it. A guy said he sold dusk for 300g that he got from trying to get the Lover cause he used forge stone in last slot with 3 bows the outcome is random.
TLDR:
Non Precursors are selling for more than some precursors in the 100g range with more still undiscovered like Elementalists Conjure sword. If everyone and knows that precursors are the top wanted weapons they will drive price up. Also if you pay attention to the precursors you will see that say there are 4 lovers available at 300g as soon as 1 is bought the price goes up because supply has decreased but demand remains the same.
Heck even a tier below that destroyer weapon prices have gone up over the past week. Corrupted has gone down a little for 1h weapons.
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so you are comparing a Greatsword to a Scepter… a Scepter which one person is trying to sell for more than the Precursor Scepter (current 99.99.99 vs the 135.00.00).
And you are trying to use this one person trying to sell this one item at an outlandish price compared precursor of another class…
This is what we call an outlier, we ignore these for a reason, because they are part of the insane randomness of life that do not support real information.
Lets compare precursor Greatsword to non-precursor Greatsword.
Dusk: 350.00.00
Dawn: 300.00.00
Valkyrie Destroyer Greatsword: 44.50.00
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Anyone who thinks they are overpriced: Don’t buy them.
Economies work on supply and demand, and if the playerbase agrees with you then the prices will go down or the sellers will never sell them.
Of course, if you refuse to buy them but they still sell then it’s you who’s cheap and not them who’s ripping people off.
so you are comparing a Greatsword to a Scepter… a Scepter which one person is trying to sell for more than the Precursor Scepter (current 99.99.99 vs the 135.00.00).
And you are trying to use this one person trying to sell this one item at an outlandish price compared precursor of another class…
This is what we call an outlier, we ignore these for a reason, because they are part of the insane randomness of life that do not support real information.
Lets compare precursor Greatsword to non-precursor Greatsword.
Dusk: 350.00.00
Dawn: 300.00.00
Valkyrie Destroyer Greatsword: 44.50.00
Valkyrie is more common recipe is more common.
The reason the scepter is so high is because only 1 person has made it. He posted on gw2guru the price he was listing it for. Its rare right now. He is the one that discovered the recipe. Do you think he has the market cornered on Giant Eyes too? They have all shot up in price a lot since he posted a video and pics of this scepter.
I also did not compare the scepter to a greatsword. I was comparing rare non precursors to all the precursors. See how you just plucked that out of there and ran with a counter.
Also I was comparing costs vs sale. To craft immobolus is going to run you at least 100g, Jormags Breath 100g, the majority of the Exotics crafted via forge are going to cost around or close to 100g.
So far many people think Immobulos looks better than the Legendary scepter. That will drive price up also. You could have at least looked it up and on the net before replying its obvious you didnt at all.
I also pointed out other weapons like Firebringer 1 hand sword that bursts into flames when you unsheath it. Looks plain when wielded everyone is after particle effects. Particle effects = money. The better looking the weapon the more it will cost.
In the end twilight and the other legendaries are particle effects with exotic level 80 stats. Why even be upset about there costs in the first place when you can get a pearl berserker sword with the same stats just without the cool factor? Its called ego.
The prices make sense will they fall eventually. Right now player base is to give me now cause I have to do all this stuff to make it so the weapon should be free. The people selling dont care how much karma you stacked or grinded they dont know any of this probably they don’t care either.
As long as there are non precusor exotics in the 100g-150g range precursors will stay high priced. As long as the mats to create those non precusor exotics with effects are high the non precusor exotics will remain high in price. Its really simple to understand.
Since you finished with numbers and GREATSWORD I’ll counter
Dusk 350.000.00
Valkyrie Destroyer Greatsword 44.50.00 (was 33g last week price has went up further proving my point)
Visions of the Mist (greatsword) Rare seen in person very nice with particle effects all the time.
To craft Visions of the Mist: 250 orichalum greatsword blades= roughly 86g (thats being generous)
250 globs of ectoplasm= 38.40
100 mystic coins=3.80
Total= 128g How much do you think anyone make money from this sword will sell it for?
Now they can collect the materials which will take a while and is TIME. The skill points for the eldricth scroll is time. Then just go look up what it would cost to craft the thing if they bought it all on gw2spidy and it still I am will to bet be sold over 100g
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How do you figure jormags breath will cost 100g to make, it’s 27g for 100 blades, 40g for 50 corrupted lodestones and 1.6 gold for the mystic coins comes out to 68.6 gold total which is far from the 100 gold you stated.
How do you figure jormags breath will cost 100g to make, it’s 27g for 100 blades, 40g for 50 corrupted lodestones and 1.6 gold for the mystic coins comes out to 68.6 gold total which is far from the 100 gold you stated.
I took my numbers straight from in game. At that time thats what it would run you. Now after an over night and bots doing there usual work it might go down. When I wrote that it was defintely 100g.
Foe Fire essense found
The recipe of Foefire is:
1 Eldritch Scroll, 1 Gift of Light, 70 Mystic coin, 250 orichalcum Greatsword blade
Gift of light expensive to put together! News is out Charged lodestones just went through the rough in prices.
Ya thats all well and good but the players controlling most of the dusk and among others items I’m sure are the players with the most bots ! The amount of framing that need be done to have so many Items up for sale so soon in the game only points to one thing . Those Items were meant to be long term goals for a player. Well thats gone as a goal ! Have a little cash on hand and it all can be yours .
I know there alot honest players but the day the trading post was open some players already had the upper hand there were to many commanders already for few weeks play. Some of them from what I understand aren’t very good commanders or even a good player So how that happen .They hang around town all day jumping around acting like children on the battlefield their clueless .Nothing like the way a hardcore game would behaves .Make you wonder if he plays so bad how in the hell did he earn so much money so soon?
That just kills any long term goals grinding it out so one day you can be one of the few with a dusk weapon or a full set of kramma armor when any fool can cheat now and get for the cost of a bot or a few dollars. Its very very very unfair to the players who want to play fair .Anet needs to make special servers for roleplaying honest players where the rules will be very strict and its all about fair play and the rest of you fools can have a free for all trying to gank each with your cheats and hacks .
The whole “anyone richer than me must be a bot” thing is getting old guys…
@Redrumickey
That doesnt make sense. Why would you let someone who has a commander icon or a legendary stop you from working to get yours. There is no quota on how many can be in the world. If they paid money for it how does that effect you? You don’t have to follow a commanders orders in WvW.
The price to buy dusk with real world dollars is like $500 just for precursor to put the whole thing together for a legendary is alot more than that. I doubt you will see that many people running around with them. You need like close to a mil Karma which means alot of grinding since the changes. It can be done but you have to be determined. Karma cant be bought with money.
the only reason those other non-precursor are so expensive, is because they’re expensive to make anyway.
Bottom line is who the hell wants to play a game with so many other players cheating . Since day 1 of online gaming there a fair % player have been cheating .
Hows that affect me well It’s a GAME players that play a game with cheaters feel cheated and the ones that cheat just don’t understand why everyone so upset just get back to playing the game so I can cheat some more. Thats how they get their kicks by PKing , stealing gold and loot, messing with the game mechanics , picking on newbies or walking with the same end game goals as you and they did nothing to earn it so well you were out girding for hours on end the were boting and playing wvwv pking others.
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