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Posted by: Risingashes.8694

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  • I have a large holding in all goods listed in this thread.
  • This is not an attempt to push prices up further.

What exactly is happening to Quartz this morning? Is that ramping speculation thread really the only thing doing it? Has ANet released some info on possible future uses?

Because I can’t find anything.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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ya it’s so easy to bump item price up. Just start a post on this forum about how it’ll be a great investment.

It probably go up anyway. Just that instead of going up in 1 year, it went up in 1 week.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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there is no way that ascended gear will use quartz crystal.

anet wont’ do things like that just to kitten people.

Even if they going to use it, by the time it come out, the zaphire is already back for second round. So there won’t be a problem with quartz supply.

And you don’t need Colin’s post. Unless you think their marketing is lieing. They already said ascended armor is coming out in the looking ahead 2013.

Truth is thread like this do have impact on the buy order. I was actually buying quartz. But gradually have harder and harder time buying when more people see the post within the 2 day spam.

But overall, there is potential. If it don’t have potential, no one will buy it even with thread like this.

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

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why would using quartz kitten people?

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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why would using quartz kitten people?

Well right now you need about 8 people to not want their quartz for every one who does just to keep up with charging one crystal per day. That might be possible now but with new people buying the game and some existing people leaving the game there is going to be a supply problem.

So either quartz won’t be used or there will be additional sources of it before additional uses for it are added.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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Ascended gear won’t “likely” use quartz. Because when it is released, the people don’t prepare for it will be outraged.

So most likely Anet won’t let that happen. It is possible ascended gear will use quartz, but that is most likely when the zepphaline comes back around the second time.

And we don’t even know if we can craft ascended celestial gear. Or at least when ascended armor is released. It’ll probably be added later.

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Posted by: azurrei.5691

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Ascended gear won’t “likely” use quartz. Because when it is released, the people don’t prepare for it will be outraged.

So most likely Anet won’t let that happen. It is possible ascended gear will use quartz, but that is most likely when the zepphaline comes back around the second time.

And we don’t even know if we can craft ascended celestial gear. Or at least when ascended armor is released. It’ll probably be added later.

So they went through the trouble of adding a personal node to our home instance just for the heck of it then? No, they added it, at least in part, knowing they needed it to be of not too limited supply when ascended is released.

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

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So they went through the trouble of adding a personal node to our home instance just for the heck of it then? No, they added it, at least in part, knowing they needed it to be of not too limited supply when ascended is released.

The problem is that people who missed the event cannot acquire the home instance node anymore. So if they up crafting to 500 you likely won’t see the use of quartz because it is unfair to newer players or players that missed the event who want ascended items.

If they do end up using quartz then they will likely add additional ways to acquire quartz crystal so it’ll be pointless to invest in it since there would be additional ways for people to acquire it like a daily reward for doing JPs, mini dungeons, some WvW, or something similar like they stated for account bound materials needed for crafting 500.

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Posted by: Magnus Steelgrave.6580

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So they went through the trouble of adding a personal node to our home instance just for the heck of it then? No, they added it, at least in part, knowing they needed it to be of not too limited supply when ascended is released.

The problem is that people who missed the event cannot acquire the home instance node anymore. So if they up crafting to 500 you likely won’t see the use of quartz because it is unfair to newer players or players that missed the event who want ascended items.

If they do end up using quartz then they will likely add additional ways to acquire quartz crystal so it’ll be pointless to invest in it since there would be additional ways for people to acquire it like a daily reward for doing JPs, mini dungeons, some WvW, or something similar like they stated for account bound materials needed for crafting 500.

Its hardly screwing anyone using quartz in ascended recipes.. its barely the price of a t5 material and the only reason its climbing so much is hundreds of people stashing away 50 stacks… it would seem stupid to have made that home instance for absolutely nothing so I’m betting it gets used.

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Posted by: Navzar.2938

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ya it’s so easy to bump item price up. Just start a post on this forum about how it’ll be a great investment.

It probably go up anyway. Just that instead of going up in 1 year, it went up in 1 week.

It worked with putrid essence just a while ago :p

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

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Its hardly screwing anyone using quartz in ascended recipes.. its barely the price of a t5 material and the only reason its climbing so much is hundreds of people stashing away 50 stacks… it would seem stupid to have made that home instance for absolutely nothing so I’m betting it gets used.

Yeah but the problem isn’t supply the problem is how would a player who didn’t do the event or came into the game now acquire it outside of the TP?

If they make the sellers come every year then it would take a while and we know crafting 500 is coming out by the end of the year. If they add the nodes or allow you to enter the map but the merchants and stuff aren’t there cause the event isn’t happening then it would be pointless to buy Quartz because people would have the means to acquire it.

The thing with the home instance is that it still serves a purpose for people that need to create celestial exotics since they are account bound. Under that case it is similar to Azurite which were used for a particular stat set. Azurite wasn’t used for anything again and on top of that I’m sure nobody thinks that Azurite will be used for 500 crafting.

I think these are the possiblities:

1. Quartz are used exclusively for Celestial exotics. ArenaNet put in the home instance node to test how people will use/like stuff in their home instance (similar to early Living Story).

2. ArenaNet adds Quartz nodes beyond the home instance and makes them a part of 500 crafting. Prices will stabilize at a price depending on the use and amount of Quartz needed.

3. Quartz are only used for crafting Celestial Ascended and not for progressing to 500 in any crafting profession.

To me I think there are better investments and I don’t think Quartz will pan out based on these reasons.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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So they went through the trouble of adding a personal node to our home instance just for the heck of it then? No, they added it, at least in part, knowing they needed it to be of not too limited supply when ascended is released.

The problem is that people who missed the event cannot acquire the home instance node anymore. So if they up crafting to 500 you likely won’t see the use of quartz because it is unfair to newer players or players that missed the event who want ascended items.

If they do end up using quartz then they will likely add additional ways to acquire quartz crystal so it’ll be pointless to invest in it since there would be additional ways for people to acquire it like a daily reward for doing JPs, mini dungeons, some WvW, or something similar like they stated for account bound materials needed for crafting 500.

Its hardly screwing anyone using quartz in ascended recipes.. its barely the price of a t5 material and the only reason its climbing so much is hundreds of people stashing away 50 stacks… it would seem stupid to have made that home instance for absolutely nothing so I’m betting it gets used.

Barely the price of a t5? Which t5 is around 25s? You need 25 per charged crystal you can’t just ignore that part.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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It’s already falling back down…

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/43773

The spike was probably caused by speculation and it’ll probably keep dropping back down for a little while.

Celestial gear isn’t really used by a lot of classes and with ascended armor coming in it’ll be only used by those who just need to have those overall stats right now (even smaller number of people).

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