Guild Wars 2

why is it everything i craft with mats from trading post and then sell it on the trading post its always at a loss what a stupid game mechanic you should make a profit not a bloody loss

Because everyone and their brother-in-law craft the same stuff to level their crafting skills. Without demand outstripping supply, crafting is not all that profitable.

Use a resource like GW2Spiddy’s crafting section. It’ll at least show you what’s profitable on paper. Still doesn’t mean it’ll sell at those prices or that those items can be used to level your crafting skill it’s better than guessing.

I believe that was the attempt with ascended gear/mats that you would make a profit selling that part….

For crafting → http://www.gw2spidy.com/ is indeed your new best friend.

Also… Skillpoint→gold

http://ec2-174-129-236-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8000/gw2sp2g/ (copy and paste)

Flipping (buying with orders, selling at “retail”)

http://gw2tp.net/

You can also make gold buy buying limited time mats/skins/dyes when they are out (I usually wait about a week after release) then hold onto them until the event is over plus a few months. Or by thinking about what players will need next. Ascended gear basically TOLD everyone what to invest in. There is still 500 JC-ing and Cooking left to go.

It’s very easy to make gold in this game if you use your brain and have a bit of gold to invest with.

If you can’t figure the TP out, then go use your brawn and farm.

By selling things, preferably for more then I bought them for.

headraver.4862:

why is it everything i craft with mats from trading post and then sell it on the trading post its always at a loss what a stupid game mechanic you should make a profit not a bloody loss

You’re attempting to do things that other people can easily do, and that others do in order to gain a non-monetary benefit.

If you want to make money you either need to find a craft that is restricted (limited drop recipe: aka none), speculate (and catch an uptick), or give up a secondary currency (skill point conversions).

It’s a global market, people are going to compete until there’s no profit left.

Im pretty sure the OP just posted to vent a bit and never gonna check back on the topic. So no use explaining it.

i’m not a huge fan of crafting but have often wondered this myself
i think people have pointed out a few good reasons here
welcome to builds farm 2

cheshirefox.7026:

i’m not a huge fan of crafting but have often wondered this myself
i think people have pointed out a few good reasons here
welcome to builds farm 2

It’s because of the way the game is set up.

The TP is game-wide rather than single-server: This means that a single player or group cannot control the TP by buying up the entire supply of a tier of mats and control the price they sell for. There are thousands of mats going in and out of the TP every minute of the day, so the prices are pretty stable according to demand and it’s easy to obtain enough mats for crafting at any time.

Crafting is a major source of XP: before ascended recipes, you could craft your way to max level without ever leaving the capital city. A lot of players with alts want to make it to max level but don’t feel like exploring the world again so they throw some gold at the TP and craft instead. This has the effect of raising demand for raw materials and components, and leaves them with a pile of finished items that they don’t need.

A lot of lower-tier equipment just isn’t in demand because toons level up so fast they can skip several levels worth of equipment. And rares start appearing in the 30s or so, demand for higher level blues and greens is almost nonexistent. Luck salvaging increased demand for them, but the hardcore players are mostly finished with that, so demand has been dropping again.

This won’t change without completely changing the way the game works. Since that isn’t going to happen, you can either make pointless rants about it, or learn how to work with the system as it is to make money. The demand for raw mats and component is constant, so you can make more money selling them than selling most crafted items.

For example, if mithril greatsword blades and hilts are selling for 25% more than the cost of the mithril ore used to make them, then buy as much ore as you can afford and craft components, then sell the components to make money. If you make them into swords and try to sell the swords, the cost of the inscriptions will push your expenses too high and you will lose money.

tolunart.2095:

For example, if mithril greatsword blades and hilts are selling for 25% more than the cost of the mithril ore used to make them, then buy as much ore as you can afford and craft components, then sell the components to make money. If you make them into swords and try to sell the swords, the cost of the inscriptions will push your expenses too high and you will lose money.

I’ve had luck crafting insignia, inscription, and other parts instead of finished product. I think some folks buy the parts to have their guild mates craft specific items for them.

Pandemoniac.4739:

tolunart.2095:

For example, if mithril greatsword blades and hilts are selling for 25% more than the cost of the mithril ore used to make them, then buy as much ore as you can afford and craft components, then sell the components to make money. If you make them into swords and try to sell the swords, the cost of the inscriptions will push your expenses too high and you will lose money.

I’ve had luck crafting insignia, inscription, and other parts instead of finished product. I think some folks buy the parts to have their guild mates craft specific items for them.

I often buy components when they no longer give XP and it’s more of a bother to refine raw materials, then craft components, then make the finished product to give an XP boost to an alt. Insignia/inscriptions especially – depending on the demand for the raw mats involved, it can be a lot cheaper to buy masterwork (or better) insignia already made than to buy 48 scales or something just to craft a handful of items.

tolunart.2095:

Pandemoniac.4739:

tolunart.2095:

For example, if mithril greatsword blades and hilts are selling for 25% more than the cost of the mithril ore used to make them, then buy as much ore as you can afford and craft components, then sell the components to make money. If you make them into swords and try to sell the swords, the cost of the inscriptions will push your expenses too high and you will lose money.

I’ve had luck crafting insignia, inscription, and other parts instead of finished product. I think some folks buy the parts to have their guild mates craft specific items for them.

I often buy components when they no longer give XP and it’s more of a bother to refine raw materials, then craft components, then make the finished product to give an XP boost to an alt. Insignia/inscriptions especially – depending on the demand for the raw mats involved, it can be a lot cheaper to buy masterwork (or better) insignia already made than to buy 48 scales or something just to craft a handful of items.

I guess you bought some masterwork insignias from the OP. Now he complains because you got the better end of the bargain. Its all your fault.

Wanze.8410:

tolunart.2095:

I often buy components when they no longer give XP and it’s more of a bother to refine raw materials, then craft components, then make the finished product to give an XP boost to an alt. Insignia/inscriptions especially – depending on the demand for the raw mats involved, it can be a lot cheaper to buy masterwork (or better) insignia already made than to buy 48 scales or something just to craft a handful of items.

I guess you bought some masterwork insignias from the OP. Now he complains because you got the better end of the bargain. Its all your fault.

Oh, it’s just phase 347 of my 1255-phase plan to completely dominate the TP and gain the coveted membership in [HATS].

tolunart.2095:

Wanze.8410:

tolunart.2095:

I often buy components when they no longer give XP and it’s more of a bother to refine raw materials, then craft components, then make the finished product to give an XP boost to an alt. Insignia/inscriptions especially – depending on the demand for the raw mats involved, it can be a lot cheaper to buy masterwork (or better) insignia already made than to buy 48 scales or something just to craft a handful of items.

I guess you bought some masterwork insignias from the OP. Now he complains because you got the better end of the bargain. Its all your fault.

Oh, it’s just phase 347 of my 1255-phase plan to completely dominate the TP and gain the coveted membership in [HATS].

I cant possibly compute numbers of such high value, therefore i dont know what you are talking about.

Wanze.8410:

tolunart.2095:

Wanze.8410:

tolunart.2095:

I often buy components when they no longer give XP and it’s more of a bother to refine raw materials, then craft components, then make the finished product to give an XP boost to an alt. Insignia/inscriptions especially – depending on the demand for the raw mats involved, it can be a lot cheaper to buy masterwork (or better) insignia already made than to buy 48 scales or something just to craft a handful of items.

I guess you bought some masterwork insignias from the OP. Now he complains because you got the better end of the bargain. Its all your fault.

Oh, it’s just phase 347 of my 1255-phase plan to completely dominate the TP and gain the coveted membership in [HATS].

I cant possibly compute numbers of such high value, therefore i dont know what you are talking about.

You’ll see… you ALL will see…