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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I just kinda wanted to put my two cents in about what a character in this game looks like in 3D.

Every character race looks great on it’s 3D part. They’re smooth, they’re gorgeous. All of them except the charr. (Well, it’s not really so bad that they’re ugly or anything,)

I look at my human female character and check out how much work went into making the body look really nice and shaped and such, smooth curves and I admire the care put into character detail like that.
But I go look at my Charr and it looks big and clunky and chunky.

It’s PC 2014, not Nintendo 64 1999.

I realize that most of the budget goes to Norn and human for resources and design because they’re the most played but come on, really? Charr should look at least better… I mean, they look good, I’m easy to please but they could use a bit of a touch up.

Anyway yeah that’s my two cents. Just wanted to finally say it.

And no I don’t care about clipping… unless it’s major. Otherwise it’s an MMO and you should learn to live with it.

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Dear Forum moderator(s).
I’d like to formally request this topic be moved to another forum board that better suits it such as Guild Wars 2 discussion or something that relates to development.

This topic is in no way connected to lore in Guild Wars 2. This topic is about the 3D physical design of the Charr body.
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Posted by: Rauderi.8706

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It’s not the clipping that gets me so much, but the STRETCHING of robes and items that hang. Which, really, Charr armor needs a lot of redesigning. If you run on all fours, why in the name of common sense would you wear anything other than pants??

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I’m only bothered with their sharp and clunky look.

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Posted by: CharrGirl.7896

CharrGirl.7896

Then don’t play one. I’m glad Charr don’t have any fan service. They’re kittenes.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

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It’s not the clipping that gets me so much, but the STRETCHING of robes and items that hang. Which, really, Charr armor needs a lot of redesigning. If you run on all fours, why in the name of common sense would you wear anything other than pants??

Ikr. They are wearing skirts in a lot of cases. Some of these leggings also have straps that hang down in front. Imagine putting a dog in a skirt that hangs down to the ground in front of the hind legs. Every step means the hind legs gets tangled up in all that cloth. It’s totally against logic to watch them run dressed like this.

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Posted by: Zavve.8205

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It seems like a lack of passion to me. I mean they should care about each race equally no matter the circumstances. First time I ever noticed something like this(I am sure this happens in other games).

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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Then don’t play one. I’m glad Charr don’t have any fan service. They’re kittenes.

I play one. I enjoy the Charr race. And if I have suggestions / opinions, I share them. Much like how you would if for anything else.

I should actually be more specific. Their shape being clunky instead of smooth. Not the armor so much as body appearance. It just looks like there was little care given to it.

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

Avelos.6798

It seems like a lack of passion to me. I mean they should care about each race equally no matter the circumstances. First time I ever noticed something like this(I am sure this happens in other games).

Yes! That’s what I feel it is too. There’s not enough attention given to them all equally. ANet says there’s not enough people playing these other races that don’t look as good as the Human or Norn and a number of players myself included are like “Well maybe if you gave them more, it would be incentive to play it!”

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Posted by: Frostfang.5109

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The new faces and hairs are far less clunky…

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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Yeah, but that’s just it. They’re new and exclusive. But the charr’s body looks clunky. I wish that would be fixed so it could look maybe at least as nice as the Sylvari or the Asura bodies. I mean, they DO look good, it IS a half-feral beast race and I’m quite impressed that they went that far. But I feel like some areas didn’t get as much care as they should have.

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Posted by: Weindrasi.3805

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I think their fur textures could be applied better—they look low quality and flat.
But in terms of the body itself, I don’t see what you mean by “clunky”. The charr are big beast-monsters. They’re supposed to be hefty.

In terms of human females, yuck. To me, it looks like arenanet has gone so overboard in attempting to make them “sexy”, that it’s turned them into deformed she-freaks

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I know they’re supposed to be hefty, but their design is not smooth compared to other races. I’m not talking about what they look like in accordance to stereotypes either. I’m meaning like there’s parts of the Charr body that don’t look like it can be physically possible to have in the body structure. Female charr for example on mine, there’s a huge edge bump behind her shoulders.

Some parts you’ll probably see what I’m talking about look really… weird. I’m not saying smooth it out as in just remove said bump, but make it more rounded. More natural and less mechanical.

They look good but I think they can look better.

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Posted by: PseudoNewb.5468

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That is not all that bad. And it really isn’t clunky as much as it is polygon budget.

Clunky is Rox’s horns… they are seriously bad.

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I guess that’s a better way to put it. Polygon budget. As for rox’s horns, I rather like them, haha. They could use a bit more curve though too.

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Posted by: blakdoxa.7520

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Sorry man, the clipping with chest armor and over-sized spatula digs into me all the time. :s
Also the skirts make no sort of sense as they drag along the ground… All charrmor should be a variety of pants/leggings/armor/ornaments with none of the chest armor dragging along the floor…
But I guess it’s not any sort of focus to have armor actually “fit” on Charr instead of being stretched out like it is…

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Posted by: PseudoNewb.5468

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I guess that’s a better way to put it. Polygon budget. As for rox’s horns, I rather like them, haha. They could use a bit more curve though too.

My problem with those horns is they are simply shoved into the side of the face and top of the head. They don’t attach in the same way as all the other horns so they kind of do the best they can to connect it to the face without using the normal attachment points and it just looks very clunky, and bad, to me. I can understand why these horns can’t really be attached to the player character’s models very well since they are so different than the original horns, but…

They didn’t even really try to model Rox’s face and horns together (being a unique character, they could have built her face to fit the horns but they didn’t). Instead they put some gold bands at the base to hide where it should connect to the head, and call it a day, so maybe I am just a bit critical about them. Honestly, the way they sit on Rox’s head, it looks like they are prosthetics that she wears to hide some horrible accident or something. As you can see, it bugs me a lot.

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Posted by: Frostfang.5109

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PseudoNewb – I agree with u… I hope more love will be put into any new horns that we may see in the future. I hope they get proper attachment to the head no matter what direction they Point in.
I also have a hard time seeing the proper attachement of Rox’s horns to the head…. The don’t feel connected to the head, they rather feel just put there.

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Posted by: Chasind.3128

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The only thing that gets me is the GAP between back items & Charr – there is a huge gap & WHY were they so poorly designed on this aspect?
Another thing is tail clipping – Anet knows charrs have tails yet they ignore us & come out with sub-par armor skins (sub par looking on charr anyways) ignoring a charrs tail.

Yes, lets design a character & completely ignore everything about it that is wrong.
If we get new horns, they will clip with charr ears most likely.

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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Yeah the back piece is a bit of a problem… Some of them look alright though.

Shoulders are another problem too but for me it’s just I wish they put more attention to detail towards the polygon budge on the character model.