Charr capital?
To my knowledge, the Legions are basically independent of one another. There is no reason for any amalgamated capital.
I don’t think so. The Legions are still too competitive for that. If there were a Khan Ur, there would probably be a capital. That said, the Black Citadel is kind of an unofficial capital—although it’s ruled by Iron Legion, many Blood and Ash operations are carried out there, and Blood/Ash warbands have permanent stations there. Plus, it’s the capital with all the interracial travel. The Blood and Ash citadels are probably still exclusively charr at this point—aside from the norn mercenary or sylvari traveler perhaps.
I agree with Weindrasi. The Black Citadel is like a state capital (ie, like Richmond to Virginia or Salem to Oregon), but there probably isn’t a “national” capital right now (a la Divinity’s Reach for the humans). Without a Khan Ur, there’s no unifying force to the Legions except for the strategic need to unite against the dragons and the Flame Legion.
The Black Citadel is capitol for Iron Legion. If I’m not mistaken, this is Iron Legion’s land, not the land of the Charr in general. Ash and Blood have their homelands farther away from Ascalon, places Anet will probably expand upon sooner or later. You can actually see Blood’s on the map out of where we can go.
I hope that the flame legion’s homelands are shown as well. The Citadel of Flame is a stronghold, but I seriously doubt that they just mould soldiers to throw at gunfire and women to oppress out of the magma there.
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The Black Citadel is capitol for Iron Legion. If I’m not mistaken, this is Iron Legion’s land, not the land of the Charr in general. Ash and Blood have their homelands farther away from Ascalon, places Anet will probably expand upon sooner or later. You can actually see Blood’s on the map out of where we can go.
If this is true and the Black Citadel isn’t the actual racial capital, then I look forward to seeing the others. This is what ANet should be doing, rather than making more 2-week events.
I hope that the flame legion’s homelands are shown as well. The Citadel of Flame is a stronghold, but I seriously doubt that they just mould soldiers to throw at gunfire and women to oppress out of the magma there.
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You should look into cults and the way they recruit. The abuse and oppression once someone is a true believer doesn’t feel like abuse and oppression. It becomes accepted, tolerated, and even missed when absent. Look into Stockholm Syndrome, too. Those who are already inside, and have been for generations don’t see what they’re doing or what is being done to them as horrific. To them its the way they were raised. It takes prolonged exposure to better ways of living to break through such a cultural divide.
For the Charr, that breakthrough came when they discovered their so-called gods weren’t gods but merely powerful monsters. This shattered the hold the Flame Legion had on the other Legions and incited rebellion which sparked over to full rage against all forms of divinity.
But among the Flame Legion, they believe their gods were betrayed by the other Legions, and the Shamans have managed to keep order somehow. Their faith in the Titans was unshakable because they had been given incredible power by the Titans. That faith also keeps both the members of the Flame Legion loyal, and recruits new members. It isn’t a winning proposition for most, but those who crave power above all else are usually willing to do whatever it takes to get it, and can be recruited fairly easily.
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If this is true and the Black Citadel isn’t the actual racial capital, then I look forward to seeing the others. This is what ANet should be doing, rather than making more 2-week events.
We may at some point… Only a portion of ANet is working on the Living Story -4 teams of about 70 people total. The rest are working on other projects such as future content, class balance, UI improvements and so on. We just see the fruits of the LS teams’ labor more often since it is on a 2 week schedule and the rest of the teams release their projects as they complete them and ready for release.
On topic now…. The closest thing the Charr probably have to a “racial capital” is some sort of fortress that the Khan Ur used as his command center. There might have been a village or something outside of it, similar to a medieval castle, but it’s most likely not an actual city. I would very much like to see the Blood and Ash Legions fortress capitals though!!
I was recently informed that Ash’s homelands border the crystal desert and might be somewhere around Ebonhawke outside of the map. I don’t have any idea where or if the info is reliable, but heard it nonetheless.
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No one actually knows where the Ash Legion actually originates from since they are mostly spies and assassins… they don’t have the same kind of territorial claims that the Iron Legion (Ascalon) and Blood Legion (east and north of Blazeridge Mountains) have.
Ash Legion most likely has a hidden base of operations somewhere in the far north near Blood Legion territory. Since they do not field a standing army like Iron and Blood, they have no need of a territory of their own really.
It’s not on the map because by all accounts the Ash legion is based off the map edge, but I believe it was Jeff Grubb who specified their location as being east of the Blazeridges.
The one that holds only pockets here and there is the Flame Legion, not Ash. All four legions have standing armies.
Since they do not field a standing army like Iron and Blood, they have no need of a territory of their own really.
Do you have a source on this? It sounds very strange, and the source you gave doesn’t imply this in the slightest.
I was basing that off assumption from what you see around Ascalon and in the Black Citadel. You see a lot of Blood/Iron Legion soldiers and such, but (and I will check again tonight to be sure) you never see any Ash Legion soldiers. Only assassins or infiltrators and the like. I may have worded it wrong slightly, and could have said they do not have a conventional army like Blood/Iron, but a more stealth-type military. They may have a territory, but I doubt they have a full-fledged fortress city like the other legions given the nature of their legion. Pure speculation of course from all sides since we never have been given much information on them.
I was basing that off assumption from what you see around Ascalon and in the Black Citadel.
You can meet several Ash Legion contingents, even in the low level areas of Ascalon. For instance, I can think of the Ash Legion warband that attacks the Decimus Stones in Plains of Ashford. And running the Ash Legion story certainly makes it seem as though your warband is a standing contingent of the Ash Legion.
You likely just don’t see many Ash Legion milling about the Black Citadel because Ash Legion tend not to hang out in the open. There’s no in lore statement that the Ash Legion doesn’t maintain a standing army of some kind or doesn’t have a home base like the other Legions.
All legions utilize all classes. They just have preferences and tendancies based on their particular battle philosophies. So Ash may well have a smaller force of front line warriors, but they do have enough to hold battle lines while their rogues and saboteurs hit the real targets.
All legions utilize all classes. They just have preferences and tendancies based on their particular battle philosophies. So Ash may well have a smaller force of front line warriors, but they do have enough to hold battle lines while their rogues and saboteurs hit the real targets.
I’ve always assumed that charr Guardians use their teleports a lot and are sent in with small groups for buff support and emergency medics.
All legions utilize all classes. They just have preferences and tendancies based on their particular battle philosophies. So Ash may well have a smaller force of front line warriors, but they do have enough to hold battle lines while their rogues and saboteurs hit the real targets.
I’ve always assumed that charr Guardians use their teleports a lot and are sent in with small groups for buff support and emergency medics.
Possibly. But not all front line troops will be guardians that can teleport. And we see in game that Ash legion does conduct frontal assaults on places like ghost strongholds.
I was basing that off assumption from what you see around Ascalon and in the Black Citadel.
When a country is sending expeditionary forces to another country, they aren’t necessarily going to send forces in any sort of proportions to what they have at home. Why would Ash send too many front line soldiers to Iron’s lands, when those frontline solders would be far more useful staying at home. Ash might specialize in less conventional military forces, and thus their expeditionary forces would probably emphasize this strength… but that composition of their expeditionary forces is nothing to base their actual military on.
Real world example: Canada sends light infantry, artillery and light armour to Afghanistan to work under NATO; this does not mean that Canada lacks an air force, navy, heavy armour, police and the like, nor does this composition imply any sort of unusual structure of the country.
It’s just a specialty of that particular country that complements joint task forces well.
Which is pretty much what Ash Legion does too.