Guild Wars 2

Most the Charr abilities revolve around their technical prowess, their skill as engineers and their militaristic might. But what about the fact that they are huge muscular beasts with giant claws, teeth, and horns?

Idea: Replace Barrage, or something else with a ‘Savage Attack’ of some sort. Your char just lunges at the enemy with claws and teeth and rips and rends and tears before taking up his weapons once again, doing a bit of damage up front and then a fair stack of bleeds as well.

What you guys think?

I think the need to add more charr shouts that work with traits and runes, maybe a fear one.

I like it. I hide my face mask on my engineer just becasue my character would want the option to bite a face off if given the oportunity.

I like it!, Would be really nice “flavor” on my charr warrior. If they were to replace a racial I hope they would choose artillery barrage since it is so lackluster :/

I don’t particularly like this idea. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

If Charr were equally effective with just their teeth and claws as they are with weapons, then they wouldn’t use weapons. So as such, I assume that weapons are more effective than Charr claws / teeth.

If you’re already using a weapon which is more effective, why would you ever put it away and start fighting with claws?

same reason a swordsman would kick an opponent. becvasue an opportunity opened up and he wouldn’t be expectiong it.

Dustfinger.9510:

same reason a swordsman would kick an opponent. becvasue an opportunity opened up and he wouldn’t be expectiong it.

This. Rangers in melee are the epitome of this by the way, lol.

It just seems strange to me that my Charr ranger would chose, of all things, to deliver rapid kicks with those nasty looking claws and teeth at his disposal

Artillery Barrage is currently a contender for the worst elite in the game atm anyway.

Dustfinger.9510:

same reason a swordsman would kick an opponent. becvasue an opportunity opened up and he wouldn’t be expectiong it.

If we’re talking realistically…a swordsman WOULDN’T ever want to kick an opponent. Kicks leave you off balance and dangerously open to counterattacks.

It’s the same principle when it comes to attacking with claws/teeth as opposed to actual weapons. Why would you ever choose to forgo the reach advantage of a sword or hammer to try to attack with claws or teeth, particularly when claws and teeth are completely ineffective against any sort of armor.

Kalona.9508:

Dustfinger.9510:

same reason a swordsman would kick an opponent. becvasue an opportunity opened up and he wouldn’t be expectiong it.

If we’re talking realistically…a swordsman WOULDN’T ever want to kick an opponent. Kicks leave you off balance and dangerously open to counterattacks.

It’s the same principle when it comes to attacking with claws/teeth as opposed to actual weapons. Why would you ever choose to forgo the reach advantage of a sword or hammer to try to attack with claws or teeth, particularly when claws and teeth are completely ineffective against any sort of armor.

Light armor wearers look tasty, and it seems medium armor wearers like to wear fancy hats or masks – nom their head!!!

Understandably, teeth/claws would be ineffective on heavy armor – maybe the racial skill would do significanly reduced damage on heavy armor professions. It wouldn’t be too unfair for other armor types as I presume teeth/claws would be melee range, and light/medium armor wearers usually have more range options.

I’d be so happy, to have a racial elite skill that forces everyone in the vicinity to do the Charr Haka. Kinda like a button that creates flash mobs. I would totally drop 10 points into that kittenz.

Kalona.9508:

Dustfinger.9510:

same reason a swordsman would kick an opponent. becvasue an opportunity opened up and he wouldn’t be expectiong it.

If we’re talking realistically…a swordsman WOULDN’T ever want to kick an opponent. Kicks leave you off balance and dangerously open to counterattacks.

It’s the same principle when it comes to attacking with claws/teeth as opposed to actual weapons. Why would you ever choose to forgo the reach advantage of a sword or hammer to try to attack with claws or teeth, particularly when claws and teeth are completely ineffective against any sort of armor.

… what? This is complete nonsense. If I see an opening where I can jab a guy with my off hand or grind the side of by boot down his shin without sacrificing a good defensive angle for my actual weapon, I’m going to take it. Actual effective armed COMBAT disciplines, not SPORT disciplines, encourage their practitioners to use whatever technique, tool and tactic will get the job done. Ideally that tool will be your actual weapon, but a trained opponent will take steps to deny you effective use of that weapon, in which case you’d better be ready to use any backup available.

Your best examples of this in fiction are going to be your great improvisational brawlers – Jason Bourne, any given Jackie Chan or Jason Statham character, or Daniel Craig as James Bond. The principle is ultimately the same with a sword though – if your current position enables a boot to sacrifice less utility than a blade, use the boot.

And anyway, sometimes a Charr will just want to TASTE the blood. Not all battle decisions are made with sound tactics in mind – your suggestion that a true swordsman would never kick is a clear example of that.

This^

Even our own modern military teaches hand to hand combat, knife fighting and improvised weopon techniques when the primary weapon is a rifle. That doesn’t mean you would prefer to start in combat without a firearm but situation aren’t always ideal. and sometimes a buttstroke is preferable to shooting because you may not be in a position to get that shot off right at that moment.

so looking at what’s realistic, we see many modern and ancient weapon techniques that also utilised punches, kicks, flips, throws and grappling.

Realistic or not this is a game so we can do what we want. If you had the option to for one of the skills to be a bundle where you get to use your claws and that I would so take it. Heck, I can think of some cool skills already.

1. Claw, claw at you target damaging them and causing bleeding.
2. Pounce, pounce at you foe and knock them down for 1 second.
3. Bite, sink you teeth into your foe and then savagely rip them away causing bleeding.
4. Kick, kick your foe backwards.
5. Ravage, repeatedly claw at your foe.

Not the best skills by any means but I think it would focus on bleeds and knock down. Hack if anyone else has some ideas for skills go ahead I think we can have a real thing going on here. I mean, when I saw the Charr part of me just wanted to rip into things like the wild animal it looks like, but I couldn’t