Guild Wars 2

I know a lot about the charr I would like to think. But I dont know what their thoughts on the other races are. If you could help clarify, that would be really appreciated, thanks

Quaggans are tasty. The ones from the far north have a better taste than those further south, but that’s because they’re much fattier.

CFQ?

Charr Fried Quaggan?

Quaggans= Tasty
Hylek=Tasty
Grawl= Not Tasty
Ghosts= Challenging to eat
Rizen= Not Tasty
Ogres= YMMV
Branded=Crunchy
Skritt=Tasty when clean

What does YMMV mean for orges? And I have more to add..

Sylvari= Don’t like salad
Human= Tasty
Norn= Fatty and tasty
Asura= Tasty but too small

And Northen Quaggan taste so yummy!

Love them Ghosts XDD
Yeah wats YMMV?
Agreed on Quaggan and Grawl.
Agreed on Sylvari, Human, and Norn.
Asurans are too bony xP

your mileage may vary. I figure they are probably a love it or hate it flavor.

Quaggans=too cute to eat but I drool when I’m around them, sometimes I fail and gobble one whole and try not to have kitty tears.
All birds except filthy harpies=mmmmm
Humans=delicious, but one has to be careful
Asura= a passing snack
wolves= yes, and they call their friends to join in my feast
Sylvari=why would you?
Norn=hard to take down, but invite your friends when you do, all evidence has to be consumed.
everything else=ok, but then I’m always needing meaty chunks, and I’m a chef so I can make anything taste pretty good!

So, basically, Charr’s thought on races are just how tasty they are. I feel proud to be a FemCharr.

To give a more serious response:

Asura: Asuran magic is distrusted, and some charr think asura are a little too close to humans, even with the treaty. However, the charr seem to respect the asuran scientific attitudes – they recognise that the asura claim ownership of their magic through their own efforts and investigation rather than divine powers, and those charr who don’t have a bias against magic enjoy working with asura.

Norn: Somebody said once that the norn and charr are drinking buddies, and that pretty much sums up their relationship nicely. The charr seem to be willing to turn a blind eye to the norn reverence for animal spirits, possibly in part because the norn don’t really worship the spirits per se, regarding them more as comrades than gods.

Humans: Distrusted, even with the treaty – partially because of all that history, and partially because humans continue to worship the gods. While they wouldn’t admit it, though, I think the charr probably have a certain degree of respect for human fighting ability.

Sylvari: I don’t think the charr really have a cultural attitude towards the sylvari yet. Some charr like and/or respect them, some don’t.

Grawl, skale, skelk: Pests, but occasionally useful. With the grawl in particular, there are some charr that are trying to wean them of their religious leanings, while the Flame Legion exploits those leanings.

Skritt: The charr seem to generally agree with the asura on the skritt – they’re nuisances to be exterminated or made to leave when possible.

Ogres: This one I don’t really know so well, since I haven’t gone through Blazeridge Steppes yet and I gather there’s at least one friendly ogre village in there. The impression I get is that the charr generally regard them as invaders, but do respect their strength and animal husbandry as long as the ogres aren’t trying to claim charr territory.

Dredge: Pests and invaders to be destroyed.

Other minor races: The charr probably don’t think a lot about the others because they don’t come into contact that often. Races such as hylek and quaggan may be looked down on a little for their religion, but aren’t enough of a threat to the charr to really be disliked. Jotun they’re probably happy to team up with norn to hunt down, tinged with contempt for how jotun society fell among those charr in the know… possibly with a shade of fear that the same might happen to their own society.

I am VERY happy there is a serious response, thank you for your answer. I agree on basically all of it (glad to see I can drink with my norn friends )
I kinda agree/disagree with the asuran section. I agree they think they are too close to humans and such, but I disagree with the bottom part. The charr dont like magic, but if the user proves themselves then they dont really hold it against them. Agreed on the respect part though. Also I like how the Asurans respect the charr the most of the races, my two favs working together!

I have in fact encountered a Charr NPC that informed me certain Quaggans tasted better than others. She (I think it was a she, but it’s been a while) was also a pirate, for whatever that’s worth.

I love the realism of the NPCs, I was afk and near some sailors or something and when i came back they were singing something about rum and stuff
Dunno its just really funny XD

No worries!

The charr distrust towards magic varies between individuals. For some magic of any kind is bad, others really don’t care as long as the spellcaster isn’t pushing their religion on them.

The charr towards the latter end of the spectrum work well with asura. Both have developed a scientific and technological approach to things – the asura just incorporate magic into theirs, while the charr are better with technology that doesn’t rely on magic. The asura philosophy of the Eternal Alchemy is also compatible with the charr outlook of seizing control of the universe through your own merits rather than bowing to supernatural beings.

Essentially, there are only three points of disagreement between the two races – the use of magic, the anarchy of the asura versus the organisation of the charr (which the latter may interpret as meaning the asura aren’t a significant threat, similar to norn and in contrast with humans) and which race will ultimately control the world.

The end result is that for any charr who’s willing to incorporate magic into their technology, an asura is probably the perfect collaboration partner, merging their respective sciences and technologies to create a greater whole. This is something we see in at least one arc in the personal story.

If you noticed, most of the Pact’s technology and production were Mostly Charr and Asura collaborations. If anything, most of the other races almost lament at Why Charr can retain a high quality while producing at such high quantities. Other than resources and manpower, I don’t really see what the other races can contribute with, Though Norn are great blacksmiths and crafters.

I know this is kinda off topic and in the Charr sub-forum, but if asurans and charr do fight to take over the world, not accounting other races, who would win?

And thanks for another awesome reply dude, I appreciate it

I don’t really see asura as the kind of race who would ‘fight’ to take over the world in the first place, but if they did, I’m pretty sure they would lose. While their stuff seems more intricate, it often appears pretty chaotic in operation as well, probably due to the fact that so much of it is experimental. While charr blow themselves up making a new cannon now and again, their production models seem fairly reliable. A tank is never going to malfunction and turn on you, it’s as reliable as its operator(s). Golems on the other hand seem to do it almost habitually.

Judging by the player stories, their societies are much the same way. Charr, even when infighting, are fairly orderly and consistent. Enemy #1 comes before your personal or legion-based rivalries (this is made pretty obvious given the prevalence of said rivalries and the fact that the Black Citadel hasn’t imploded yet). Compare the way Inquest interact with other asura, like that guy who co-operates with them to gain a position of power (whatever his name was). The ones who put their own gain before the greater good are seemingly intermingled with the more sensible ones who would unite to face a greater threat. There’s even that one heart quest in Metrica where Inquest are strolling around recruiting asuran children.

Then you’ve got the part where asura are virtually bite-sized to a charr. Unless in-game mechanics designed to keep player races on an even footing fit into game lore, they’d depend entirely on their tech to win a battle.

Shaftronics.8651:

If you noticed, most of the Pact’s technology and production were Mostly Charr and Asura collaborations. If anything, most of the other races almost lament at Why Charr can retain a high quality while producing at such high quantities. Other than resources and manpower, I don’t really see what the other races can contribute with, Though Norn are great blacksmiths and crafters.

Well, the sylvari, or rather the Pale Tree, played an important role in getting insight into what needed to be done…

Trahearne mentions that the airships were a mix of asura, charr, and human technology, although it’s unclear where the last comes from. One theory is that it’s because humans have more experience with shipbuilding than asura or charr, so their expertise came into play with carpentry, the right fabric to fill the air bag, and generally how to put the pieces contributed by the charr and asura together into a ship that’s actually going to work.

Otherwise, though, I’d have to say that one of the tragedies of the story is how many opportunities were squandered to give other races the limelight. Going into Orr should have been humanity’s chance to shine through knowledge of the city and of the correct rituals to make use of the power of the gods still lingering within Arah, but we don’t see it. For the norn it’s a little less obvious where they could have been given more of the limelight because there isn’t that connection, but the norn way of harmony with the spirits is certainly something that could have been played with (encouraging the still-living wildlife not to interfere with the Pact’s supply routes, for instance).

EpicFace.8096:

I know this is kinda off topic and in the Charr sub-forum, but if asurans and charr do fight to take over the world, not accounting other races, who would win?

That’s been discussed to death in past. I don’t want to derail this thread on it as well, but it generally comes down to how charr can deal with floating bases and golems, and whether the asura could co-operate enough to respond to the threat. And I don’t think the writers are going to give us an answer, either.

An NPC in the Black Citadel gave a noteworthy impression of official relations between charr and asura.

Coloa Stonecrack

We share what we want ‘em to know – that we’re bigger, badder, and bolder. Who cares if they know how to blend metals? We’re still centuries ahead in production and design.

This, plus a few other pieces from around the world, make it seem to me that charr view asura as rivals technologically, but unreliable working partners more interested in proving their own brilliance than finding the most efficient solution to the problem.

Of both asura and sylvari, I’d say charr are suspicious. They find sylvari demeanour unsettling – too happy, too curious – and their values alien.

Humans they despise or begrudgingly respect – sometimes both at the same time. Charr are actually warmer than I expected in this regard – I expected them to segregate themselves from humans while operating in the Fields of Ruin. Also didn’t imagine they’d readily work with humans in pirate bands.

Norn emphasis on individual strength seems to grant them respect from charr, despite the spirituality that charr couldn’t identify with. Being good fighters seems to be enough.

They also respect the norn because they held off invading charr before they called it quits. And charr and norn are drinking partners. If a norn can out drink a charr, they’re considered cool.

It’s a mix of holding off the initial attacks, and then not invading back the way most races would if they suffered an unprovoked attack (most races would deem the society the attack came from responsible and go for the source, while the norn judge everything on an individual basis and deemed the affair concluded when the charr who attacked them were killed… and probably didn’t think at the time of the possibility that they attacked because they were ordered to). This established that the norn were too powerful to be trivially conquered, but also not a threat that needed to be dealt with – giving the two races time to coexist and get to know one another outside of a war footing.

This probably then set the stage to allow the charr to consider forging relationships apart from war with other races, making it a fairly unique set of circumstances that everyone is better off for now, especially the charr.

With regard to pirate bands – that’s probably simply a case that since the charr that have joined them are probably outcasts from charr society as it is, it didn’t phase them to work with a race (formerly) viewed as enemies from the society they were cast out from. (Since humans are probably the most nautically experienced of the races that aren’t outright amphibious, in fact, any charr wanting to become a pirate probably didn’t have much choice but to coexist with humans.)

With Charr pirates, one should also consider that many charr would rather die than be alone. The Warband seems like a “charr only” thing, but it’s actually a need for them. Charr are a very social species. Charr pirates may be outcasts from their own kind, but they’ve found a “warband”, so they can put up with details like the others being furless.

good thread keep it up,loving reading it

Drakenvold.9761:

good thread keep it up,loving reading it

Glad to see im not the only one
;)

there are also non-citadel charr, charr in places like LA seem to have had their long standing racial biases defused, and it’s only really the player character’s generation that still has a problem with humans, the cubs and child dialog in LA shows that the only reason the charr and human dislike each other is the war, to the point that the kids and cubs will go trick or treating, play “ghosts vs charr” together, re-enact logan’s heroic acts from edge of destiny, and even plan on forming a warband together, to quote “why do you think our parents don’t like each other?” “I don’t know, all I care about is that we’re best friends”

I’m not sure your logic follows – Lion’s Arch is a special case because it’s a place where charr and humans cohabit, and children raised there are used to thinking of the other race as neighbours rather than enemies. The “don’t tell my parents; they’ll kill us!” line suggests that said parents might hold onto the long-standing racial bias, but I’d suspect that for humans that have lived in Lion’s Arch for long enough to leave behind the usual human assumptions about charr, a charr is just another person.

The real prejudices were being bred in the charr territories and the areas with deep Ascalonian heritage. You’re probably right that said prejudices will probably be less pronounced in the next generation, but that’s because chances are the peace will have become the status quo by the time the children of today grow up, not because things in Lion’s Arch are a predictor of what will happen in Ascalon or Kryta.