Guild Wars 2

Kopa.4206:

As a Charr i say…

Correct. You say that foolishness as a lone stupid charr and not as a representative of the High Legions. Respect the chain of command, soldier.

You’re bringing kindle for a fire that is being put out.

But perhaps you’re not the quickest thinker of your warband and so I can suppose that this wasn’t a deliberate act of insubordination against the will of the Legions.

Fall in line, and keep your stupid to yourself.

Gyrtag Steamweld: Personally, I’ve never really been all that fond of the little whelps. Too weak and too stupid contribute to anything. Long as they keep their pathetic dolyak-kitten about suckling the teat of some worthless god out of our lands, I don’t mind the treaty.

Karalis Gnashclaw: I can’t really see anything wrong with the treaty. We’ve been wasting resources on the humans for far too long, we need to focus on the real issues; Like those blasted ghosts and the dragons. Plus, you never know. There might be something we can learn from them!

Issac Ursaga.2947:

Karalis Gnashclaw: I can’t really see anything wrong with the treaty. We’ve been wasting resources on the humans for far too long, we need to focus on the real issues; Like those blasted ghosts and the dragons. Plus, you never know. There might be something we can learn from them!

Don’t forget the Flame Legion… * spits on the ground *

Man, I hate the Flame Legion.

Yeesh look at this Flame hate. How about an opinion from a Flame Legion Guardian: Kerbrus Blazecaller.

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If it were not for the Flame Legion, Iron would not have Ascalon in the first place. Many of those great heroes from the liberation of Ascalon? They were all Flame. The acclaimed “hero and liberator” Bonfaaz Burntfur?… he’s from the same warband as the dreaded “villain and enslaver” Hierophant Burntsoul. If the Charr need no faith in gods, then do not simply replace that with faith in propaganda of wars’ victors. All too often the successes of the Flame Legion are claimed by Ash, Blood and Iron; every failure is attributed to the Flame Legion as the great scapegoat (whether deserved or not). This sort of behaviour is more befitting for cowardly mice trading words in their courts.

The current civil war amongst the High Legions is simply to keep all of our forces experienced; just as the Charr have always had infighting for as long as any records go back. The only difference between now and the rest of our entire history, is that the Charr have always united against outsiders: the Forgotten, the Ascalonians, the Orrians, the Krytans and their Mursaat allies… but now we are allying with outsiders against out own kin.

You will all burn for your treachery against the might of the Charr.

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“We’ll see about that.”

Maeve Stoneshatter, Blood Legion Warrior, slides her thumb down the blade of her axe.

“If it were not for the great flame legion, Ascalon would have been still inhabitable when we finally claimed it.
Speaking of which, we still clean up the messes you flame failures brought upon this cursed land.
You fools like to boast about the only thin, flame ever got done: Tearing down the great wall, but that’s been some, what? 200? 300 years? And it wasn’t even your own work! What have you accomplished since? Worshipping not only one but two kinds of false gods? Change the human renegades, that we could have ratted out in time, into an everlasting ghost army? Impressive!

Right now we fight against outsiders, dragons, in case you forgot about that while kneeling to one of them and fighting your own kin in it’s name."

spits out

So the Foefire was the Flame Legion’s doing as well mmm? Pray tell what else?

Those false gods were tools that allowed for the liberate Ascalon, the sinking of Orr, and the destruction of Kryta’s Mursaat allies. Without the Flame Legion’s leadership to direct the obliteration of these outside threats, the humans would never be in the position of weakness to seek a truce and sign your precious treaty in the first place.

There is nothing to brag about in the last two hundred years, because all that has been done in that time has been consolidating the Flame Legion’s victory, while spreading propaganda against that legion.

No wonder you’re spitting so often, I’d be hacking up as well if I were licking mice that much.

Of course it was the flame legions responsibility to secure what they conquered – They could not, they overestimated themselves and without their puppeteers they failed miserably.

Yo were the tools, not your “gods”, charr ferocity allowed for the conquering of Ascalon and in time we would’ve done it without destroying our ancient homeland with giant crytals. You did not destroy the mursaat, neither did you sink Orr, both was humanitys doing. Also, we all need this treaty, there are elder dragons lurking about in case you forgot.

We don’t brag, we take action. We developed culture and civilization on the burnt ground you flame mongrels left behind. It’s not propaganda, it’s history.

Seeing that you are completely enthralled by your destroyer shaman masters, I’d recommend you tuck your tail and run home to them – Maybe then my mouth wouldn’t taste of bile anymore.

(This is great ^^)

If it were not for that “victory at any cost”, you would be forced to"bargain from a position of weakness" for that precious treaty of yours with the humans. In the words of your great hero Pyre Fierceshot, this makes you a fool.

If we Charr were simply tools, then why pray tell were those gods discarded and vanished once their usefulness had been expended? And why should any heed be given to the words coming from those of the lesser Legions, when in one breath they will claim “victory at any cost”, and in the next dam [sic] those that produce world changing results in our favour? Jealousy is unbefitting of a Charr.

Our gods gave us boons and allowed for the destruction of our enemies; no matter how much you twist those words you cannot deny that success. Your new gods, the mice, can do nothing of the sort.

(hehe I agree, clearly every lore discussion in the Charr subforum should be IC)

EDIT word censor please stop ruining my fun

((Surbus, you’re doing such a great job that I’m hating the Flame even more :p ))

Sheogorath Madklaw would say something like: “It doesn’t matter to me either way. One day, I will reign supreme over all Charr and have my legions of undead at my side. Now that I think about it, I am in need of a new apprentice. And humans seem to have a sense of ambition that no other race seems to have.”

If it escaped your notice, you didn’t “abandon” your gods, they were killed. By humans. the same humans we now try to forge a treaty with, seeing that they make better allies than you or your gods who only ever brought us short lived pyrrhic victories.

Yes, it’s our istory anad we have to live with it anyways, speculation doesn’t befit a charr either. But we’ve grown. Of course you needed your titan gods after you effectively cut charr fighting strength in half by chaining us women to hearthfires.

A mistake, as you learned in time, getting your misogynistic behinds handed to you.

Our technological advance, made possible by the renouncement of gods and shamans, combined with our ferocity and prowess is enough to secure our position. A new age, where charr and human fight together to secure Tyria from the threat of the elder dragons has come – and there is no place in it for traditionalist knuckleheads who pick at old wounds.

(We should only post IC in all the lore subforums, just did one on my human char in the respective forum ^^)

(word filter is annoying for RP though :o)

My Charr thinks that in many ways the Charr are still the slaves of the Titans. Yes we slew them and took back control over ourselves, but what have we done with the control? We’re still the marauding army the Titans molded us into, not what we were meant to be.

We’ve reclaimed our homeland, now is the time to reclaim our true selves. The treaty with the humans is the first step we’ve taken in more than 200 years toward that goal.

Nazza Goremonger was born a renegade. Her parents, both deserters, had relations while among the renegades, and she was born in one of their camps.
As a cub, the renegades put her to work as a spy, saboteur, and thief. Her small size and young age put her beneath adult suspicion—no one really expected a little kid to be working with terrorists.
As Nazza got older, she was given more direct roles in attacks and bombings. She was known for hotheadedness and recklessness, and she forwarded the renegade cause with typical teenage passion .
As an adult, Nazza has cooled somewhat. She maintains her fierce temper to keep renegade underlings under control, but internally she has started to crave more from life. She has no experience with any ideology except the one she was raised with—absolute hatred of humans, and scorn for mainstream charr society. She realizes, however, that she is lacking something. For now, she uses her discontentment to push the renegade cause even further—training would-be terrorists, and orchestrating attacks. She detests the treaty, as she was raised to. If, however, she were forcibly exposed to other viewpoints, who knows?

The Renegades have only been around for four years.

mine feels that they perform adequately as rank-and-file soldiers, and are best used as arrow-fodder before the legions come to do the real job. a human leader/officer is out of the question. he will prefer to follow a Gladium before he follows a human. overall, doesn’t hate humans, they are ok to hang out with, but not the kind of crowd he’d get mixed with. this leads to him hating combat directed by a human officer, and if such occasion arose, most likely will convince his war band to… erm… make a “contingency” plan…

I could care less about the treaty, it’s not stopping me from eating their children

Kurn Ghostblade:

I train devourers and I do not care what targets they are commanded to fight, be it ghosts of humans, undead humans, or living humans themselves. That is the concern of the legion. What I care about is how WELL they do their job. If there is a treaty, then so be it. It’s not like pieces of tenuous inky paper last long in the hands of honeytongued politicians anyway. If you want peace. This is okay. I’ll have a few weeks of rest and maybe some hunting to do. And, there’s ALWAYS catch-up work to be done.

But if its war then I suggest you mind your feet. Our ranch trains the best kitten devourers in all of Ascalon. They aren’t known for their kindness towards the skittish, and they will even take down Giants like a colony of poisonous ant drones crawling over an invader. So yes, mind your feet.

Tarreth.8914:

The world’s deadliest weapons are not eager to fight those, who they fought for years.

It’s easy to be magnanimous when you’ve won.

As for Ebonhawke, any Civilisation player can tell you that sometimes it’s better to let the enemy keep a few cities, than to crush them utterly. Sometime you don’t want to deal with a rebellious population and the diplomatic penalties.

—Galvar Bonespeaker shakes his head as the charr around him bicker senselessly about the treaty—

“Fool cubs. You Blood-brains and Iron-heads don’t know what it takes to win a war. This is why you should leave the thinking to us: Ash Legion.

Never forget who we are. We are charr, and we will have victory at any cost – even if that means allying with the humans. They may look like a bunch of runts, but they’ve got fight in ‘em. Together, we’ll crush the skulls of our enemies and drive those dragons back into the dirt where they belong.

Victory. For the Legions!"

—he drains his flask of firebrand whiskey in salute—

Peppercats.5740:

I could care less about the treaty, it’s not stopping me from eating their children

Okay. But no honorable charr will mourn your death when they rightfully make a pair of shoes out of you.

Should you run to us, we’ll do it for them for insubordination against the will of the legions on your part.

The Blood Citadel is especially merciless to cowards.

“I see Humans just like every other race. They all will turn into ash”