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Posted by: Nabrok.9023

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Does that sound reasonable? Averaging 4 dragonite per keep lord (assuming you even get a hit in on the keep lord) it will take 125 keeps to gather the 500 needed to make one weapon.

In my entire time playing the game (since headstart) I have captured 260 keeps.

Fortunately I do occasionally do world events, otherwise I guess I’d have two ascended weapons in about a year.

I’m all for encouraging people to play different aspects of the game, but even so this seems a bit ridiculous.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Don’t look at your WvW achievements. You haven’t seen ridiculous until you’ve seen how many yaks you have to kill to complete the achievement and calculated how long it would take.

The game centers around PvE so that will be the quickest way to get gear.

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Posted by: Nabrok.9023

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The game centers around PvE so that will be the quickest way to get gear.

That’s fine. World events are obviously meant to be the primary way to get dragonite and I’m ok with that.

Dungeons and JPs are meant to be the primary way to get empyreal, but I’m ok with its drop rate in WvW. It doesn’t drop a lot, but you can flip camps and towers often enough that I don’t mind. A keep is a rare enough event that I think it deserves to have the dragonite rate reevaluated.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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I’d say it should be 15-20ish.

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Posted by: Gator.5729

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Run the temple events in Orr (lyssa, grenth, melandru, arah, balth). You get 30 or 35 dragonite from each of them. If you haven’t done them before, Lyssa and balth take the longest, the others take maybe 15-20 minutes or less depending when you get there.

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Posted by: Nabrok.9023

Nabrok.9023

Run the temple events in Orr (lyssa, grenth, melandru, arah, balth). You get 30 or 35 dragonite from each of them. If you haven’t done them before, Lyssa and balth take the longest, the others take maybe 15-20 minutes or less depending when you get there.

I’m aware. The point is that I can get a good proportion of my empyreal through WvW (though most of it is from other sources), but the proportion of dragonite from wvw is negligible.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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Even fragments are more easily obtained by doing quick PvE dungeons. The rewards all around are lacking in WvW when compaired to PvE. A dev said that they were aware of this and were going to be addressing the issue (no specific date given though).

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Posted by: Yumiko Ishida.3769

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I get the Empyreal just by opening all the small chests in Queensdale daily, ( there are 2 in vale area and 3 in the JP in queensdale) you never need to do a dungeon for those. Dragonite ore you really need to take down world bosses (includes temples and Arah stairway).

I’m slowly saving all of the mats for ascended armor. I’m not gimping on my legendary weapons.

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Posted by: Valandil Dragonhart.2371

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I’m all for the way that people prefer to game (PvE, WvW, etc.) but I can’t understand the disparity of rewards for chest collections of all this ascended gear if ANet, essentially, is trying to get us to ‘play our own way’.

IMO it lacked this kind of forethought from the time it was released.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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Sitting on 150 bloodstone bricks, 30+ dragonite bars, 30+ empyreal stars and nothing to use them on since I am skipping ascended. Going for legendaries instead.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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Male you should skip creating the stars, bricks, and bars if you don’t plan on making ascended stuffs. It’s a waste of resources. Just toss them if you’re sure you won’t be using them instead of refining.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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I am speculating that they will be of future use like precursor crafting or new legendaries I guess. I got over 2k obsidian shards on my bank so its not much of a waste.

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Posted by: SuLor.2840

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Taking a keep is definitely more of a challenge, and happens a lot less frequently than all the world events. I see no reason why they shouldn’t be giving 20+ dragonite ore, certainly it’s worth as much as fighting the Claw of Jormag?

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Posted by: Player Character.9467

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25 ore and make it daily like a world boss?

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

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I agree that the amount of Dragonite being rewarded in WvW needs some upward adjustment. There ARE JPs in WvW that can get you Empyreal (but from my understanding, it’s a lowbie hobby to keep others from reaching the chest).

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

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Do you need loads of dragonite ore to make a weapon? IIve barely hit level 450 artificer and I have not looked at ascended recipes yet… But I keep seeing people have trouble finding it. Through regular play I have 10 stacks of dragonite ore, 7 stacks of empyreal fragments, and have been destroying dust, so I’m wondering how people are unable to find enough? Or do the recipes require loads of the stuff?

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Posted by: Cod on Cod.3694

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Do you need loads of dragonite ore to make a weapon? IIve barely hit level 450 artificer and I have not looked at ascended recipes yet… But I keep seeing people have trouble finding it. Through regular play I have 10 stacks of dragonite ore, 7 stacks of empyreal fragments, and have been destroying dust, so I’m wondering how people are unable to find enough? Or do the recipes require loads of the stuff?

Wow, so you have taken atleast 500 keeps since ascended gear was released? That pretty sick mate. What server are you on?!?!

(The above is sarcasme. You are mixing in PvE, while OP is only talking about WWW)

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

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Do you need loads of dragonite ore to make a weapon? IIve barely hit level 450 artificer and I have not looked at ascended recipes yet… But I keep seeing people have trouble finding it. Through regular play I have 10 stacks of dragonite ore, 7 stacks of empyreal fragments, and have been destroying dust, so I’m wondering how people are unable to find enough? Or do the recipes require loads of the stuff?

Wow, so you have taken atleast 500 keeps since ascended gear was released? That pretty sick mate. What server are you on?!?!

(The above is sarcasme. You are mixing in PvE, while OP is only talking about WWW)

Yeah, yeah, I see. Shame on me :p

You can look at it like: crafting a legendary weapon forces you to go into WvW for badges (well, before the achievement chests and IF you saved your badges). So if you want an ascended weapon, and PvE is the best place to find the materials, why wouldn’t you do that? I think ANet is trying to get people to move out into areas of the game that they normally wouldn’t bother with. Also someone above mentioned doing WvW jumping puzzles for empyreal fragments: I’ve done several JP’s in BL and EB and never got a single fragment.

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Posted by: Nabrok.9023

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Do you need loads of dragonite ore to make a weapon? IIve barely hit level 450 artificer and I have not looked at ascended recipes yet… But I keep seeing people have trouble finding it. Through regular play I have 10 stacks of dragonite ore, 7 stacks of empyreal fragments, and have been destroying dust, so I’m wondering how people are unable to find enough? Or do the recipes require loads of the stuff?

Wow, so you have taken atleast 500 keeps since ascended gear was released? That pretty sick mate. What server are you on?!?!

(The above is sarcasme. You are mixing in PvE, while OP is only talking about WWW)

Yeah, yeah, I see. Shame on me :p

You can look at it like: crafting a legendary weapon forces you to go into WvW for badges (well, before the achievement chests and IF you saved your badges). So if you want an ascended weapon, and PvE is the best place to find the materials, why wouldn’t you do that? I think ANet is trying to get people to move out into areas of the game that they normally wouldn’t bother with. Also someone above mentioned doing WvW jumping puzzles for empyreal fragments: I’ve done several JP’s in BL and EB and never got a single fragment.

To answer your earlier question it takes 500 of each T7 material to create one ascended weapon. This is for the Vision Crystal, you need 5 of each refined T7 (100 each) plus an item you buy for 20 skill points.

Empyreal also drops from supply camps and towers. The amount you get per camp is similar to the amount of dragonite you get per keep.

WvW is not the best means of getting empyreal, but you can flip camps and towers often enough that it’s not insignificant, and you could realistically gather the majority of what you need there, even if it would take a while, and you can throw an occasional dungeon or jumping puzzle in here and there to speed things up.

With dragonite though, flipping a keep is rare enough that any you gain this way is insignificant and your only realistic option is dedicating a few days to just doing world events.

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Posted by: gaborkaldy.3210

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I was in the same situation like the OP and then i forced myself to do some world events.
I got the 500 dragonite ore in 2 days doing world event for 2 hours/day. So alltogether 4 hour net me 500+ dragonite ore easily.

I don’t plan to craft ascended weapon just yet. I will first wait for the legendary precursor token crafting recipe and just then i will decided what to do with my refined materials.

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