Guild Wars 2

Even if you craft Ascended Weapons and Armors for you main pg, unless you throw those away you’ll need to make an alt to store your Ascended Mats.

I think it is time to make them saleable, at least to normal vendor…

Don’t think ANet will ever vendorableable so refine them or toss them out. Its takes 100 of the raw mats to make a refined item so they compact pretty quick. Also will have them in hand if anything comes out that you do want to craft (ie precursors if it ever happens).

Bloodstone is threatening to take over all my inventory space. I just throw it out now.

IMO ascended crafting is working just fine. I craft the weapons and armor over time as I gather most of the mats in my normal daily play time. I’ve got over two dozen weapons and one full set of armor. True….I usually have about 40 bricks of blood dust more than stars and ingots but it’s a far cry from over taking any of my inv space.

Honestly, not sure why people don’t progress towards Ascended stuff. It’s easy to make and it’s not a race to make it.

I only really have an issue with bloodstone overflow. Have way too much and converting into bricks is far to expensive for the amount I have.

Heltzer.2435:

Honestly, not sure why people don’t progress towards Ascended stuff. It’s easy to make and it’s not a race to make it.

Its becouse getting some professions to 500 level is hard and expensive, simple stuff for someone that playing like 1 or 2 months, you cant get easily gold in game.

It’s not that expensive if you do it over time though. You can refine to 425 over time if you farm nods or use mystic salvage kits like I do to go for the one in four salvage rate T6 ore, wood, gos. So thats very cheap but draw out. You do have to discover to 450 by crafting exotics, however, you have the mats now and if you run dungeons, champ farms…heck nearly everything gives champ bags now for T6 crafting mats. Once you’re at 450 you refine the new mats to 475..etc.

It’s only really expensive if you have to have it done now like IMO.

Dump your ascended mats in my inbox, I’m nice like that.

I also have a bank full of ascended materials. I get a lot of empyreal fragments from doing dungeons daily. Also the amount of bloodstone dust I get is greatly exceeding. The general problem is that if players are considering crafting ascended items they already have more ascended materials than they really need.

So of course some people are asking me: Why don’t you just delete them?

This is where the real problem for me kicks in. I have no clue what the developers have in store for us in the new year. For all we know the ascended materials could be one of the key requirements to craft the new precursors. Why else do we have so many of them right now? Seems like we’re missing a piece in the puzzle of a greater plan here. Perhaps we will need a full stack of refined ascended materials. So if I would delete them now I would risk the chance to having to farm them again.

We all saw what happened to Bolts of Silk. At one point they were just a trash item for vendors. Now players are screaming to increase droprates on them. I’m not going to make the same mistake twice.

Minato.5294:

Don’t think ANet will ever vendorableable so refine them or toss them out. Its takes 100 of the raw mats to make a refined item so they compact pretty quick. Also will have them in hand if anything comes out that you do want to craft (ie precursors if it ever happens).

Not counting the obsidian shards, which can be kind of expensive. 4.2k karma a piece if you can manage to find Balthazar open, or roughly a low level fractal run.

At least we should have the ability to sell to an NPC for personal currency – karma, laurels, etc…

So much…….dragonite.

This is why selling expandable material slots is an extremely bad practice when you make end game armor that requires thousands upon thousands of the stuff. I’m approaching the end of my ascended armor grind, so I too will have material building up like this. I will only make another set once my guardian gets a proper 2h ranged weapon that fires projectiles otherwise I’m more or less done.

Ascended mats were a bonus to champ bags to accommodate the rising need for ascended crafting. Riding the champ train is not considered regular gameplay and by doing this extensively, you will aquire more mats than intended for the regular game player.
If it clogs up your inventory because it is not tradeable its not the economies fault but your own due to excessive gameplay. Just delete it, if you run out of space.

Wanze.8410:

Ascended mats were a bonus to champ bags to accommodate the rising need for ascended crafting. Riding the champ train is not considered regular gameplay and by doing this extensively, you will aquire more mats than intended for the regular game player.
If it clogs up your inventory because it is not tradeable its not the economies fault but your own due to excessive gameplay. Just delete it, if you run out of space.

I can’t remember doing any champ train in the last few months yet here I am with an inventory full of bloodstone dust and empyreal fragments. Just deleting it doesn’t cut it as I mentioned in my previous post. We don’t know whether they will become useful in the future.

I’m not sure if you’re fully aware of the meaning of economy, but there is no economy involved with ascended materials because they can’t be exchanged. Perhaps if they could be exchanged, even only by vendor, it would take off some of the pressure.

The developers did not calculate the droprate correctly or they have something in store for us to use the ascended materials in the near future. Either way, the current situation is far from favorable.

If you don’t craft these are the first drop that are of absolutely no value to you, it is not in the style of the original model and IMO it is a change for the worse. Solutions that still mean players have to gather the materials in order to craft are

1. Make them sellable. I would be happy at 1c each (and I’m working on ascended), and it certainly wouldn’t break the economy.

2. Create mystic forge recipes that provide new crafting materials which let you make those currently uncraftable insignias and runes. For example, 100 dragonite and 1 coral orb makes dragon coral which can be used to craft shaman insignias

3 Create a mystic forge recipe that allows you to craft a junk object that you can sell. Eg 50 dragonite+ 50 empyreal + 50 bloodstone + 50 of any of those three = sea shell.

On reflection I don’t like 3, but any of those is better than the current situation.

Noah.4756:

This is where the real problem for me kicks in. I have no clue what the developers have in store for us in the new year. For all we know the ascended materials could be one of the key requirements to craft the new precursors. .

given that so far the pattern has been to make items obsolete and introduced new components to grind for (so everyone has to grind) i think its safe to say they wont be involved in obtaining precursors, they may at some point make them vendorable or make more recipies like toxic krait tonic

also precursors are meant to be a scavenger hunt not crafting

Noah.4756:

Wanze.8410:

Ascended mats were a bonus to champ bags to accommodate the rising need for ascended crafting. Riding the champ train is not considered regular gameplay and by doing this extensively, you will aquire more mats than intended for the regular game player.
If it clogs up your inventory because it is not tradeable its not the economies fault but your own due to excessive gameplay. Just delete it, if you run out of space.

I can’t remember doing any champ train in the last few months yet here I am with an inventory full of bloodstone dust and empyreal fragments. Just deleting it doesn’t cut it as I mentioned in my previous post. We don’t know whether they will become useful in the future.

I’m not sure if you’re fully aware of the meaning of economy, but there is no economy involved with ascended materials because they can’t be exchanged. Perhaps if they could be exchanged, even only by vendor, it would take off some of the pressure.

The developers did not calculate the droprate correctly or they have something in store for us to use the ascended materials in the near future. Either way, the current situation is far from favorable.

I am fully aware of the meaning of economy and at least for Bloodstone they already adressed that issue.

In the last 2 months they introduced 16 different recipes that make use of bloodstone dust.

The 8 different ascended backpieces were designed so people dont need mist essence and hold no monetary value but the 3 nourishments give you decent profit, especially with the toxic spore samples constantly rising in price.

And while the 5 new endless wintersday tonics are account bound, you still have the choice to gamble them at the mystic forge for a chance to get the Endless Toymakers Tonic or Endless Gift Dolyak Tonic. If they didnt change those to account or soulbound on acquire, they are still tradeable on the tp.

Even for the Brick they introduced a new recipe with the toxic krait tonic.

The leak of precursor crafting a couple months ago showed 15 vision crystals required per precursor. So I would hold onto them until at least that time.

Most interested people struggle to even get those amounts of ascended mats they need anyway. Boasting thread if you ask me. The dust can be safely thrown away, everything else looks fine as it is.

Not sure why people who refuse to craft/refine material cry about having to much material… refine it and quit being so lazy.

“refine it and quit being so lazy”

At 14.96s a pop? No thanks. Maybe for some people they can shrug that cost off but I know I can’t. I make what I need.

This doesn’t include the O. stones you’ll need either which is a karma sink, all to make bricks to store.

There are other recipes that AN seems to keep adding for this. Now I just have to wait for a recipe I like. Or that is cheap.

You can tell who doesn’t do PvE, just by the dragonite comments… just like you can tell who doesn’t do dungeons or WvW much by the lack of empyrial. That sector of the game needs regulation.

OP mentions 100 stacks of ascended mat’s but I only see 77 spaces taken and only 74 are complete stacks. >_<

I have 250 spare bloodstone dust and 250 bloodstone bricks, and will make the same in dragonite ingots (164 so far) and what I can of empyrial shards/stars. I’m going to need most of my mat’s and probably quite a few that aren’t made so far, in order to get the precursor crafting started (when/if it gets released).

Valandil Dragonhart.2371:

OP mentions 100 stacks of ascended mat’s but I only see 77 spaces taken and only 74 are complete stacks.

Now I really have 100, trust me.

Just throw out anything you will not use. I do crafting, and I destroy most of the bloodstone dust I get – just because I will never use it.

KOPPER.1458:

At 14.96s a pop?

You are wrong. It’s not 14.96 a pop, it’s 2 bloody obsidian shards or 4200 karma a pop. This is the real deal.

“You are wrong. It’s not 14.96 a pop, it’s 2 bloody obsidian shards or 4200 karma a pop. This is the real deal”

To each their own, the shards aren’t as large an issue. (Still an issue) But gold (or silver in this case) is more important to me.

KOPPER.1458:

“You are wrong. It’s not 14.96 a pop, it’s 2 bloody obsidian shards or 4200 karma a pop. This is the real deal”

To each their own, the shards aren’t as large an issue. (Still an issue) But gold (or silver in this case) is more important to me.

They are equally important to me. I just blew 30 gold buying up more ore for my ascended weapon and now that karma is harder to get it’s gonna be a pain to get all those obsidian shards.

Zepher.7803:

Not sure why people who refuse to craft/refine material cry about having to much material… refine it and quit being so lazy.

Give me a break. Ascended crafting is an investment. Some people simple aren’t interested. Disinterest =/= being lazy. People aren’t whining because they have too much. They’re whining because they choose not to partake in one aspect of this game, but are still being flooded with items from it. They could at least be sellable to the vendors. A lot of people are holding out, because if they do finally destroy the lot and then ANet makes them at least sellable to a vendor, they’ve then suffered a potentially major financial loss. I’d just be happy being able to give them to somebody who will use them.

considering how easy and pushed this these items are I half expected this Dust/ore/crystal to be used in some kinda next stage sharpening stones, tuning crystals or maintenance oil.

Disagree. Ascended crafting just needs to be gotten rid of at best or an alternate where you can get the gear from sPvP which is the core of the game (or was supposed to be) should be implemented.

No mode should have to rely on the other. You want to WvW 100% fine. PvE fine. SpVP fine. Gear should be accessible in each with equal effort.

Crafting should only be the way to satisfy your PvE crowd.

i wonder: why did you covered your gold?