Guild Wars 2

I can hardly believe it’s come to this, but here I am in a forum, desperately asking for the poultry slab drop rate to be increased.

There’s so many problems and angles with the condi meta in WvW that many players have pretty much taken to running -40% or -36% condi food all the time. There’s already dozens of threads covering this issue in the WvW forum, so I won’t go into it.

The -40% condi food, bowl of lemongrass poultry soup, is extremely expensive because it uses the very rare lemongrass and 2x slabs of poultry meat. Fine, whatever, it’s a top tier food and expensive as such.

Normally the next step down 65 level foods are a much more economical option for poor players, which you are if all you do is play WvW. That’s not the case with the -36% condi food, bowl of poultry and leak soup, because it still uses 2x slabs of poultry meat, which has become a very expensive item for whatever reason. It would be even more expensive if players were still not crafting it at a loss or dumping excess items on the TP, but surely that will end someday, and it has been steadily getting more expensive.

tl;dr, increase the poultry slab drop rate so -condi food is less expensive and we can stop wasting most of the pathetic amount of gold earned in WvW on food.

Moa’s drop alot people just don’t bother to kill them, the one’s in frostgourge also drop t6 claws. So no the drop rate doesn’t need buffed people are just too lazy to get it.

Cyrill Faust.9340:

Moa’s drop alot people just don’t bother to kill them, the one’s in frostgourge also drop t6 claws. So no the drop rate doesn’t need buffed people are just too lazy to get it.

This.
Every friday afternoon when Pengu´s WXPUH train on FSP starts, i try to divert it into a moa train.

As some one who crafts the soup pot feasts for WvW, I’ve taken to killing moa on various maps and really they seem to drop more claws, eggs and vendor junk than meat. Perhaps it’s just that rule of what you seek is elusive but I’ve resorted to killing moa whenever I see them and my poor hunter’s pouch is nearly empty. I personally find it more efficient to farm something that sells for a decent price, or some other gold earning endeavor, and just buy the meat. I’d rather kill the moa and be direct about it but what tends to be a better use of time is to earn gold then buy what’s wanted from the tp, be that new Black Lion ticket skins, giant eyes or poultry meat.

Ain’t got time to be farming moas…time I could be playing the game. The drop rate should simply be increased to increase supply, lower the cost of the mats, and lower the cost of making the soups. It’s kinda outrageous that the -condi food cost 10x more than the +condi food…

zen.6091:

Ain’t got time to be farming moas…time I could be playing the game. The drop rate should simply be increased to increase supply, lower the cost of the mats, and lower the cost of making the soups. It’s kinda outrageous that the -condi food cost 10x more than the +condi food…

It costs so much because the demand is high and people don’t kill the things that drop it so supply is low. Increasing the drop rate won’t change many peoples playing habits therefore it will still cost about the same. If you don’t want to farm moas then earn gold in a way you like and buy it, that is the purpose of the Trading Post to give moa farmers an avenue to gain gold from non moa farmers that want chicken soup. Whether you think the price is fair or not is irrelevant the price is determined by the market. From a game designee perspective the item is available to players in an adequate quantity for the purpose of its use therefore increasing the drop rate is unnecessary, however adding more avian enemies that drop it to the game maybe something to consider.

Clearly we need some kind of Tengu dungeon we can farm for poultry.

As someone who farms the snot out of fowl, drop rate on poultry itself is fine.
Density of herds of fowl are the problem… there are only a couple places where said fowl density makes it WORTH farming – below is one of them.

After this post, one or both will happen – players will swamp the area and drive the price of slabs of poultry down and/or anet will respond by nerfing the snot out of them – SO FARM NOW WHILE YOU CAN. At a price of ~5.5 per slab, you can easily pull avg 7-10G/hr out of here solo, at least half of which is poultry – boring as heck, tho. At last night’s 7.7S/slab, it’s even better.

http://www.hark.com/clips/qcwcxwjqxg-sell-sell-sell-button

But here goes:

Iron Marches, just below Glory’s Steps and above Soldier’s Mesa and Viper’s Run.

You know that open expanse you all keep running through and utterly ignoring (I know, I’ve watched you do it for months now) that’s got swarming packlets of Raptors and Raptor Hatchlings?

They drop poultry slabs, sharp claws, and frayed hides in abundance.

If you’re running through and engage a couple packlets incidentally (i.e. just as you run through), they seem to be worthless – they don’t drop well. Kill all of the packlets ONCE, then go back and make the run again. The first run through “primes the pump” – all subsequent run-throughs dramatically increase their drop frequency. Best I can figure is it is designed to prevent drawing attention to them?

Focus on the Hatchling packlets, take the adult raptors out if you can kite them into the others (otherwise you actually slow down your G/hr rate) and remember to go into the forest and up the hill on the back side of Glory’s Steps.

I can usually do this solo for about an hour and a half before the drop frequency/volume slows down.

Multiple people partied seems to dramatically improve drop frequency/volume – before my son got utterly bored of this, we could pull 10G/hr each. There are very few who farm this area, and it’s hilarious when we run into one another – without a single word spoken (well, typed), strangers automatically party up and synchronize our farming rotation.

One of the last decent farming locations left in GW2… or it was till now.

Someone just mentioned on teamspeak that my post above could be misconstrued as an attempt to manipulate the market. It’s not.

Anet can see my inventories and my TP items – I have a grand total of 5 slabs in all inventory and none on the TP. My supply of sharp claws and rugged leather is small (not even 100 of either, IIRC.

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

I’ve farmed every moa and raptor I could find in the game (note the caveat) – Iron Marches was the best return on time due to density in a relatively small space.

I know for a FACT I’ve seen a similar cluster of 4 or 5 hatchling zergs elsewhere in the game (ascalon region, I thought) a couple alts ago, but I can’t find them again.

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

Thank you for the research I never have the patience to document this kind of stuff, but 100 is still a relatively small sample size. I’m also unsure of the effect of magic find on food item drops.

Cyrill Faust.9340:

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

Thank you for the research I never have the patience to document this kind of stuff, but 100 is still a relatively small sample size. I’m also unsure of the effect of magic find on food item drops.

WRT poultry – I can’t tell the difference with or without MF boosts.

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

That’s a pitiful amount of poultry meat and may be one of the reasons why supply isn’t higher. I bet most people think first of moas when they want to farm poultry meat. It’s what people encounter in the starter areas and since it’s such a low level crafting mat, it’s what they continue to think of as the source. I wonder if starter area moas have a smaller drop table and better rate of poultry meat drops.

I think I’ll give raptors a try also tomorrow if I have time, to see what the drop rate looks like.

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

On the other hand I just ran through a bunch of moas/raptors on my way to the Craze’s Folly JP for the monthly and got 5 or 6 slabs just passing through. This is with 198% MF.

Cyrill Faust.9340:

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

Thank you for the research I never have the patience to document this kind of stuff, but 100 is still a relatively small sample size. I’m also unsure of the effect of magic find on food item drops.

yeah, I knew that 100 is not tons, but it’s a start. I was rather shocked that I got almost as many t6 claws as meat. I wanted to try to be sure to avoid DR from nuking the same 20 critters in a loop. For the record, my MF was 249%.

thehipone.6812:

Cyrill Faust.9340:

thehipone.6812:

For science! Just brutally murdered 100 lvl 80 moas in frostgorge over 20 minutes. Results:

5 slabs of poultry meat
18 eggs
12 t5 claw
3 t6 claw
4 green items
1 blue
1 white
11 junk sharp talons

Honestly expected more meat. Raptors may indeed be better.

Thank you for the research I never have the patience to document this kind of stuff, but 100 is still a relatively small sample size. I’m also unsure of the effect of magic find on food item drops.

yeah, I knew that 100 is not tons, but it’s a start. I was rather shocked that I got almost as many t6 claws as meat. I wanted to try to be sure to avoid DR from nuking the same 20 critters in a loop. For the record, my MF was 249%.

Poultry meat is a level zero cooking mat. If magic find increases the chance of a “good” drop, maybe it decreases the chance for a drop such as this in favor of the greens, T5, T6, or even eggs, which is a level 25 cooking mat.

This got me curious so i did a little farming of my own. Moa’s do seem to drop alot of junk raptors seem to have a smaller variety of loot so a much better chance of poultry. The Moa’s i killed seemed to have about the same drop rate as thehipone posted, I then tried the raptors at KarateKid’s spot and they had a much better rate of poultry drop than the moas. With this information i would conclude raptors are a much better choice than moas for poultry farming.

Cyrill Faust.9340:

This got me curious so i did a little farming of my own. Moa’s do seem to drop alot of junk raptors seem to have a smaller variety of loot so a much better chance of poultry. The Moa’s i killed seemed to have about the same drop rate as thehipone posted, I then tried the raptors at KarateKid’s spot and they had a much better rate of poultry drop than the moas. With this information i would conclude raptors are a much better choice than moas for poultry farming.

After the initial euphoria of “OMG, this is great”, though, gets boring to the point of falling asleep at the keyboard – done that

KarateKid.5648:

Cyrill Faust.9340:

This got me curious so i did a little farming of my own. Moa’s do seem to drop alot of junk raptors seem to have a smaller variety of loot so a much better chance of poultry. The Moa’s i killed seemed to have about the same drop rate as thehipone posted, I then tried the raptors at KarateKid’s spot and they had a much better rate of poultry drop than the moas. With this information i would conclude raptors are a much better choice than moas for poultry farming.

After the initial euphoria of “OMG, this is great”, though, gets boring to the point of falling asleep at the keyboard – done that

Reminds me of the times I spent running up and down one small area in Southsun, farming T5 and T6 blood. Good money then, but….. It did tend to get tedious after awhile.

And now it’s nerfed completely. Both mob density reduced and respawn time increased. As well as more people there trying to farm it.

Part of the problem is that the +40% food is extremely easy to get.

IF you want to specifically farm for poultry meat, i would go for low level mobs. First of all they are faster to kill and also their loot table is a little smaller than high level mobs.
I am not 100% sure but i think also the different kinds of moas/raptors have a slightly different loot table.

I’ve noticed that poultry meat tends to drop a lot more in lower level zones than the higher ones. I’ve gone around slaughtering every moa and raptor I see in Straights of Devastation and come away with one or two poultry meat. I go to Brisbane Wildlands, and get a poultry meat every third or fourth bird I kill.

In my experience, raptors are better then moas.
Theres also the option of bandit bags. In low lvl areas they are really easy to kill, usually lots of them and they drop other usefull (sellable)stuff too.
Dont have numbers, just remember I used to be surprised over how many poultry meats I got when lvling alts.
But rng is rng..

Raptors in middle of Bloodtide Coast….with plenty of Bandits and Pirates nearby (bags that have poultry in them).

Brother Grimm.5176:

Raptors in middle of Bloodtide Coast….with plenty of Bandits and Pirates nearby (bags that have poultry in them).

Did you mean Moa?

I know there’s a small group of slow-respawn raptors over by the frog juicers (a sentence I NEVER would have thought I’d write – ever), but I thought the rest of BTC was primarily moa?

There is a mess of Raptors in Metrica Province that are my main source of poultry, since we’re sharing market information in order to bring down prices (I assume that’s what’s going on here lol)

http://www.gw2tp.com/item/24360-slab-of-poultry-meat

If that’s what was intended, we failed miserably.

Nah, we are all just filling our banks with poulty and lemongrass, waiting for season 3.

KarateKid.5648:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Raptors in middle of Bloodtide Coast….with plenty of Bandits and Pirates nearby (bags that have poultry in them).

Did you mean Moa?

I know there’s a small group of slow-respawn raptors over by the frog juicers (a sentence I NEVER would have thought I’d write – ever), but I thought the rest of BTC was primarily moa?

There is an area of Eagle Raptors around the small camp in Risewild Hills. Just killed the last 20 of my Raptor Slayer chievo last night (with a dozen or so Poultry Meat on the side). Also, these do not spawn slow….I’m guessing there is 8-12 of them at any one time and they respawn before you can get back to them in a loop.

From those spidy numbers, there would need to be an influx of about 50,000 poultry into the TP supply to lower the price….very doubtful. I was sharing to help the OP out in terms of finding a non purchase source.

Brother Grimm.5176:

KarateKid.5648:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Raptors in middle of Bloodtide Coast….with plenty of Bandits and Pirates nearby (bags that have poultry in them).

Did you mean Moa?

I know there’s a small group of slow-respawn raptors over by the frog juicers (a sentence I NEVER would have thought I’d write – ever), but I thought the rest of BTC was primarily moa?

There is an area of Eagle Raptors around the small camp in Risewild Hills. Just killed the last 20 of my Raptor Slayer chievo last night (with a dozen or so Poultry Meat on the side). Also, these do not spawn slow….I’m guessing there is 8-12 of them at any one time and they respawn before you can get back to them in a loop.

From those spidy numbers, there would need to be an influx of about 50,000 poultry into the TP supply to lower the price….very doubtful. I was sharing to help the OP out in terms of finding a non purchase source.

Gahhh I didn’t walk over near the encampment last night – will check it out.

I didn’t put any real effort into farming Raptors (never did that in GW1 either, too gimmicky & unchallenging … and the little ones are just too cute IMO, I’d rather go all out postalgenocide on Quaggans than these harmless little guys). …but I did notice that even in a single sweep through once in and back again while doing some Logging, that the poultry drops were actually quite consistent or atleast TWICE what I tend to see when full out farming most Cloth-giving drops.

If there’s actually a problem here, I’d say that it’s because the Demand is artificially high and Anet needs to do something about Condition spam in WvW (one look at Melandru’s Superior Rune confirms this) or making actual poultry farms a Capturable resource in the Borderlands….

Just in general, this discussion is a good way to point out how farming can be very lucrative, if you do it right and know what you do. If you want to be really good at it, it requires alot of in game knowledge but it can potentially earn you quite a bit more than running a champ train.
But first of all, it requires you to observe markets to know, which crafting mats are in demand atm. Then you need to know, where to get these mats and as we have seen in this topic, its not just kill a moa or a raptor. The level of the mob influences the drop rate quite a bit and the level of the map you are in determines the value of the additional drops you will get.
Then there could be mobs that drop additional in demand mats or bags which momentarily have highvalue items in them.
Just like making profit with buying the right lootbags from the tp at the right time, it takes alot of research but can be very rewarding, if you do it right.

I’m tentatively rescinding my snark at Anet about nerfing this area.

Assuming any dev or staff member has seen this thread – the raptors have been left alone; unlike the charr on the bridge just to the west (and no, I don’t mean the bugged out ones – the ones post-bug fix) whose spawns were nerfed from space via a ginormous pause in the middle of the event.

KarateKid thanks for the advice on a good location with enough density of spawn to make this worthwhile. While I still seem to get more claws, eggs and hides than meat, raptors are better than moas by far. This allows me to more reliably procure what I need to make pot feasts for WvW because I’d rather gather what I need than pay for it on the tp. Focused farming puts me to sleep after about 20 minutes so this is an excellent place to do some daily categories and get materials I need in the process.

I’m still certain I could likely make more gold in that half hour I spend each day by doing some other activity but this works for me and allows me more time in WvW (where I don’t really make gold so much as spend it).

Vespertilionidae.5018:

KarateKid thanks for the advice on a good location with enough density of spawn to make this worthwhile. While I still seem to get more claws, eggs and hides than meat, raptors are better than moas by far. This allows me to more reliably procure what I need to make pot feasts for WvW because I’d rather gather what I need than pay for it on the tp. Focused farming puts me to sleep after about 20 minutes so this is an excellent place to do some daily categories and get materials I need in the process.

I’m still certain I could likely make more gold in that half hour I spend each day by doing some other activity but this works for me and allows me more time in WvW (where I don’t really make gold so much as spend it).

You’re welcome.