Xaivier
Ascended armor and fracts
Firstly, it will take 99% of the players a long time to get the armor.
Secondly, ascended armor boxes can already be found at the same locations as the weapon boxes, you can find that bit of information in the patch notes.
Thirdly ascended armor should not matter to you unless you do fractals lvl 50+ because there simply is no need for it and no noticable upgrade. Weapons give you much more of a damage increase then the full armor set will ever give.
Thirdly ascended armor should not matter to you unless you do fractals lvl 50+ because there simply is no need for it and no noticable upgrade. Weapons give you much more of a damage increase then the full armor set will ever give.
This is wrong and we owe the existence to ascended tier to this…
Since release we have people saying “its only a ring….less than 1% in performance” then “Its only a necklace less then 2% performance” etc etc etc.
Reality is:
Armor is 5% more efficient then the corresponding exotic armor
And to that base 5% you can add WWW infusions for another 30 stats.
Ascended is a tier not really different from what is the difference between rare and exotic.
A full ascended player will deal about 5% more damage while suffering 5% less.
For fractals its also +30 AR
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Still if you get 5 or even 6% more damage this should in the end not matter. It is not like you get denied in parties for not having fully ascended gear, you will not be denied WvW because of your lack of WvW infusions. Sure if you are purely roaming in WvW then ascended armor might help, but overall this is so little of an increase that it will not matter unless you keep on believing that you are kitten.
Also you need to keep in mind that you cannot have it both ways, you cannot have the AR boost and get the same increase in stats at the same time, for a lot of fractal players this means we need to sacrifice damage for AR. I still do not see a lot of whining about serious fractal players being denied the 11 infusion slots where they are “forced to use AR rather then damage upgrades”, in the end that little stats difference will not matter. And even if you feel yourself underpowered, just use food and oil/sharpening stones in WvW and you will have a stats advantage over 80% of the players you meet as most people dont bother with it.
I believe what it comes down to in the end is this, anet had the choice of either introducing the ascended armor and maybe loose a casual player and a WvW player because of their belief that this update will require them to farm iron nodes for hours every day in the year or not do anything and loose many of the fractal players and overall PvE orientated players that want some sort of goal to work towards.
Seriously, everyone has plenty of time to get gear and it will take time for anyone who has not got hundreds of gold to burn.
You can already drop ascended armor pieces and weapons in fractals daily chest (starting at lvl 10 iirc). You can chose the piece (boots, helm, … ) and class (heavy, medium, light) but you will not be able to change stats. If you drop a zerker one, you will be stuck with it even if you wanted rabid.
Thirdly ascended armor should not matter to you unless you do fractals lvl 50+ because there simply is no need for it and no noticable upgrade. Weapons give you much more of a damage increase then the full armor set will ever give.
Funny thing, when weapons went in i also heard that there’s no reason to protest, because they give minimal increase. And before that i heard the same with earrings, amulets, rings and backpieces.
Yes, no single item (with the possible exception of weapons) is significant on its own. When seen together, however… but no! It’s irrelevant how significant advantage of the full ascended gear is, because we’re discussing only armor there. Just as we were discussing only weapons, only earrings, only amulets, only rings before now.
Also – i agree, that armor pieces are the least important of all the ascended gear (with the possible exception of backpacks) when you consider ony their stats. Problem is, they have also an infusion slot. There are only (blue) +5 stat infusions now, but +11 greens are already in the database, and there were dev statements that they are going to continue progression through infusions.
So, you may think that the OP’s question is irrelevant now, but will it remain so if there will be, say +21 yellow infusions to be had and slotted? Or when ascended versions with their bonus will finally make it to the game? Because it will happen. And it’s better to start thinking about it now, instead of waiting and hoping everything will somehow turn out well in the future.
And that, again, is if we’re really talking only about armor. Which we’re not – weapons are in the exact same situation, and even earlier gear, much easier to get, is not really in the clear.
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Astralporing.1957 what you are saying is true in a way. However take also into consideration that people have had over half a year to get ascended trinkets. Even a casual gamer has had good time to get at least one set of ascended weapons even with just 5-6 hours of play a week it is more then possible to get it in the time since the weapons were released.
When it comes to infusions I would believe that it will take at least another couple of months until they are introduced and in that time most players will have had a chance to at least craft most of a set of ascended armor.
Astralporing.1957 what you are saying is true in a way. However take also into consideration that people have had over half a year to get ascended trinkets. Even a casual gamer has had good time to get at least one set of ascended weapons even with just 5-6 hours of play a week it is more then possible to get it in the time since the weapons were released.
Not very likely. You see, I am playing since the beginning of the game. I am playing way more than 5-6 hours a week, and not in a very casual way. My playing style and time invested place me definitely within the top 10% percent of the players. Likely even higher. And yet i do not have even one set of ascended weapons. I am not even thinking about equipping more than one character.
That tells me a lot about the general availability of all this stuff to others. I bet, that (unless something about the gear aquisition changes significantly) a year from now only a tiny minority will have anything close to a full ascended set. A majority will not even get beyond few trinkets. And by that time there will likely be new things to farm for (remember, they clearly said they are going to continue with gear progression in some way), making the stat divide between the farmers and casuals even greater.
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(edited by Astralporing.1957)
ive got my chest piece on day 1, and i need 100 more dragonite for pants for piece 2. then i just need 2,000 more dragonite to completed the rest of my armor and then when that is done, anet will introduce the legendary trinkets.
Thirdly ascended armor should not matter to you unless you do fractals lvl 50+ because there simply is no need for it and no noticable upgrade. Weapons give you much more of a damage increase then the full armor set will ever give.
This is wrong and we owe the existence to ascended tier to this…
Since release we have people saying “its only a ring….less than 1% in performance” then “Its only a necklace less then 2% performance” etc etc etc.
Reality is:
Armor is 5% more efficient then the corresponding exotic armor
And to that base 5% you can add WWW infusions for another 30 stats.Ascended is a tier not really different from what is the difference between rare and exotic.
A full ascended player will deal about 5% more damage while suffering 5% less.
For fractals its also +30 AR
The increase in your effectiveness depends heavily on your gear choice. A full ascended zerker gains a 17% damage increase over a full exotic zerker. While a full ascended rabid players gains only 5.1% damage increase over a full exotic rabid player. Additionally a full soldier player only gains ~3% damage reduction.
Anet never bothered to balance scaling because they didn’t intend to add more gear tiers when they designed the game. Getting ascended gear is absolutely required for a zerker player and pretty much worthless if you have a gear set that has more than 1 defensive stat.
The rest of the gear sets are all around a 5% gain and you can decide if that’s worth it to you or not.
ive got my chest piece on day 1, and i need 100 more dragonite for pants for piece 2. then i just need 2,000 more dragonite to completed the rest of my armor and then when that is done, anet will introduce the legendary trinkets.
I have good news for you. Only the chest cost 500 dragonite ore. All the other pieces of ascended armor only need Lesser Vision Crystal (2 Dragonite Ingot not 5). Which mean you already have enough Dragonite ore for you 2nd and 3rd pieces of armor. And that you need 600 Dragonite ore to complete you full set.
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