Guild Wars 2

Hi, I’m here sitting on my PC every day and I see people in my guild, way over half of them have legendaries, I have 40 gold in my pocket, so I figure hey, why not use 20 and flip it, I wait several months, and my stuff still hasn’t sold, and then I wonder, what the hell, I have 300 now, so why not create 250 rare greatswords and toss them into the mystic forge, maybe I’ll get something, but still to no avail, I have just wasted 300 hard earned gold for nothing. I WvW a lot, I run fractals a lot, I flip alot and nothing ever sells, I craft a lot and nothing ever sells, I run dungeons, I don’t spend gold on stuff where I cant get any back, and what does it boil down to? I don’t care anymore, I just don’t want my legendary, I don’t want my ascended armor, I hate this ordeal where the rich get richer and the poor have to watch as they get richer; so why not just take the rest of my money and gamble it, it’s not like I care anymore anyway. At this very moment I’m sitting on my asuran guardian with cultural t3 armor and his cute little entropy, in a guild called Os in the Northern Shiverpeaks server, staring at the mystic forge, while that last 24 gold worth of hammers sit in my bag…motionless. I throw them into the mystic forge…I get a carrion tribal warhammer of accuracy, a nice little hammer worth a few bit of gold, nothing fancy, I get a berserker’s pearl crusher, nice little hammer, with a bunch of stones, though nothing fancy. But still no Collossus, so I say screw it all; I take everything I’m flipping, everything in my bank, and sell it all to the highest buyer. I get 36 gold back, and I gamble it the same way as before, and this time I ended up with one measly little gun, and 2 gold left to use at my disposal. I didnt want any money left. So why not gamble the rest, so i buy 4 silly looking shells, toss them in the mystic forge, and bam! I have just 29s left in my bag, I look at the rare cleric’s shield of energy in my bag, and then a tear rolls out of my cheek. After that, I decided, screw it I might as well throw my asuran cult t3 armor in there too; so I remove all my belongings, dump them in the forge, and get nothing. I then hug a corner in my room, and cry.

Hmmm. I had 1500 gold until I made the Mjolnir. Before that I made 30 ascended weapons, Vision of the Mists and The Anomaly. Now I only have 600 gold, but then I don’t play the Mystic Toilet. Not since I lost all my money at the start of the game trying to get the Eternal Princess Doll tonic.

Firstly, players that make a steady income from the forge do so by looking very closely at values, so statistically they can expect to come out ahead, and have enough gold to cover any intermediate losses. Secondly, I have no idea what you flipped, but if it hasn’t sold by now I’m not sure you understood what you were doing. Also, I probably would have brought it down by now and re-listed, but that’s something of a personal choice. And finally, it’s disappointing that you weren’t satisfied with your 300 gold, since that is much more than I’ve ever had at one time.

I understand that you were kind of taking a punt, but what made you think that throwing 300g worth of hammers into the mystic forge would result in your precursor? If 300 gold was as much as it cost on average, then the cost of The Colossus would be much closer to 300 gold than it is now.

Also, I don’t really get a sense of what you want from this. Half your guild already has a legendary you say. So, do you want legendaries easier or harder to get? Or does it just annoy you that something that 50% of regular players find achievable you can’t do? What’s the point of saying that lots of players have them and then saying that it’s so hard?

Personal wealth in game is largely pointless. So you have 50k gold in your bank, what good is that? Usually, I don’t have much more than 120-150g in my bank because I’m using it up so much, whether it be for gems, crafting or runes and sigils.

If I need gold, I’ll make a few high value things and throw them on the TC. It’s knowing the market and being sensible in your expectations. I made an exotic in the forge that I wanted to TC. Ended up taking over a week and a half for it to sell because it was undercut many times. But because of its rarity it eventually sold. On the other hand I made an amulet with very rare materials and its on the TC for just under 40g, but it’s undercut down to 31g. Again, a very long term investment that may or may not pay off.

Just crafting those two items dropped my total wealth to 5s. I had to borrow gold off a guild mate just to list them. Sometimes, you just gotta go for broke and make a punt, but it has to be a calculated punt. I spent my last 50g crafting those two, but I got back 100g for the exotic and when the amulet sells another 40g.

Point scoring with personal wealth is meaningless. If it translated into real world wealth then sure, it might be useful, but it doesn’t, unless you’re a real world gold seller in which case I hope you rot in hell.

it sounds like you need to attend gamblers anonymous more than anything else.
300g = 250 rare greatswords? you’re doing something wrong. you should be paying around 30-40s each (850 rare greatswords).
it currently takes roughly 800g worth of items to craft the collussus. or about 1000g to craft dawn or dusk. you may notice that those are very close to how much they cost on the TP. If you spend 300g to try and get dawn, then that’s a 30% chance of you getting it (if that 300g is applied efficiently).
People make a profit from forging because they spend 30,000g and get 30 precursors – they are relying on average returns. If you only have a 30% chance of getting it rather than a statistical certainty, then that’s called ‘gambling’. in gambling, the house always wins.
“I hate this ordeal where the rich get richer and the poor have to watch as they get richer” – this is not true. A more accurate phrase: “people who know how to get rich get richer and people who don’t have to watch as they get richer”. A small difference, but an important one. Basically, it’s not because someone has a lot of gold that they get more gold, but rather someone has a lot of gold in the first place because they know how to get more gold. If you’re flipping items that never sell, I’m going to guess you made some bad investments. That happens to everyone, believe me. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like flipping. If you really are that intent on being rich, try other money-making strategies. It isn’t easy, so don’t expect it to be easy.
Also, rich people tend to stay rich because they don’t spend their money. You won’t be rich for very long if you’re spending all your gold all the time.

Never seen the point in caring how much gold another player has (or tells you they have). As long as you have enough for what you need, what does it matter?

Personally I think Entropy looks a lot cooler than the Juggernaut, but that’s just my opinion. :P

Zaxares.5419:

Personally I think Entropy looks a lot cooler than the Juggernaut, but that’s just my opinion. :P

^ This. I used to have Bolt on my thief but after a while it just ticked me off that it just didn’t look right, so I went back to the very simple and elegant Ceremonial Sword skin paired with a Ceremonial Dagger.

Anet’s reply, “You can buy more gold in the Gem Store!”.

…. my reply is, “yes, precursor’s are one of the biggest issues with this game.” Instant lottery wealth for some, soul sucking void for others." And yes, for the thousands of hours I’ve played, never have I had one drop. Nor do I have a single legendary because of it.

DeWolfe.2174:

Anet’s reply, “You can buy more gold in the Gem Store!”.

…. my reply is, “yes, precursor’s are one of the biggest issues with this game.” Instant lottery wealth for some, soul sucking void for others." And yes, for the thousands of hours I’ve played, never have I had one drop. Nor do I have a single legendary because of it.

precursor are not really an issue except to those that believe THEY deserve a legendary. Even still then they are largely useless.