Guild Wars 2

I honestly think its very unfair that charged lodestones have such a high number of weapon recipes, especially because they are all aesthetically pleasing recipes it is driving up the prices of just the one type of lodestone. If these recipes were spread out over the other types of lodestones it would be much fairer as these are near impossible to farm and buying them at these exorbitant prices is difficult to say the least. This makes it easier for some people to farm their mystic forge weapons/legendaries while its much harder for others; particularly those using charged lodestones. What do you guys think?

There might be recipes we haven’t found yet.

To be honest I think that all of these unpopular lodestones will be in very high demand once the expansions are released. I expect a lot of ice weapons in the jormag expansion and crystal lodestone based weapons in the kralkatorik expansion. Just my 2c tho not trying to affect the market in anyway.

Well the bots are farming them as of today. At this moment on my server, Yak’s Bend, there’s a bot group on a path where the Sparks spawn south of Zephyrs. Bad news for all.

To be honest if bots are farming them at least that means theyre coming into the economy. Many people dont run CoE because its too long. In my opinion it isn’t that bad but thats part of the reason supply is so low. Also the fact that the armor isn’t very appealing to most people. So many things have compounded to cause the price spike.

“To be honest if bots are farming them at least that means theyre coming into the economy. "

To quote my man Arnold Rimmer, “Wrong, wrong. Absolutely brimming over with wrongability.”

Think harder. The people behind the bots are gold sellers. Gold sellers deal in game currency. They farm for it, they sell it to people.

They also manipulate the markets of the games they infect for their own purposes. What purposes, you ask? To drive up demand for their product and thus increase sales.

Do not think for an instant that they will dump a thousand of the stones onto the TP and thus lower the going rate. Instead they will make efforts to drive the prices up.

PS People need to stop using “to be honest” as a prefix for every random thought they might wish to express.

To be honest that’s a fair point. I’ll type however i like even if you don’t deem it appropriate.

On topic – if they implemented a system such as buying lodestones for dungeon tokens and making them account bound like what was suggested in another thread that would put me at ease.

No, that’s a terrible idea. Once you switch the acquisition of a component over to EZ-mode you open the door for demands to do likewise for the others. Make the stones available in exchange for tokens and next people will demand that clovers and precursors and everything else get the same treatment. Guaranteed.

My issue with the stones is their use in exotic recipes. Or more specifically, the number required. For example, given the rarity of charged stones it’s patently absurd that an “ordinary” exotic should require 250.

The bots of course are a much wider issue, and one that is detrimental to the game and its players across the board. They must be dealt with.

Off topic – Of course you can do that. It’s entirely up to you to decide if the words you choose need to make sense in context. I can only show you the door. You’re the one who has to walk through it and embrace the English language.

I’d like to point out that since the discovery of these recipes, the price of charged lodestones has tripled (from 80s to 2.4g). That is absolutely unacceptable, especially considering that the price continues to rise each day and it is entirely possible that the 100 lodestones to craft Bolt will cost over 300g within a few weeks.

Actually as of right now the gift of bolt is over 400g. I know because I’m working on it.

Edit: Apparently I can’t read. I apologize.

I think they need to lower the drop rate on Charged Lodestones, as 3g each is obviously much too low. They need to be 5-10g each, or more, and have a drop rate about 1/10000th of what it currently is.

Charged Lodestones aren’t desirable unless they’re rare, we don’t need everything to be super common because then no one would be able to show off their cool rare Lodestones.

ChairGraveyard.2967:

I think they need to lower the drop rate on Charged Lodestones, as 3g each is obviously much too low. They need to be 5-10g each, or more, and have a drop rate about 1/10000th of what it currently is.

Charged Lodestones aren’t desirable unless they’re rare, we don’t need everything to be super common because then no one would be able to show off their cool rare Lodestones.

+1 if you managed to type all that without cracking up.

To be honest I think that all of these unpopular lodestones will be in very high demand once the expansions are released. I expect a lot of ice weapons in the jormag expansion and crystal lodestone based weapons in the kralkatorik expansion. Just my 2c tho not trying to affect the market in anyway.

By this logic, Pile of Putrid Essence would be the most valuable now, and have the most recipes. Ironically, you can’t even put this into the mystic forge.

This kind of thing is ruining this game. There is no way, none, to make the money necessary to make these items without paying hundreds of real dollars in gems or lesser amounts through gold-sellers.

Whomever is running the economic aspect of this game needs to be fired. They are destroying the best reason to play GW2. This November ‘major’ patch may well make or break the viability of the game. I know it will make or break my desire to keep playing it.

I believe a large part of the reason why some mats prices are able to rise this high is due to the number of exploits that were available early game that people used. Farming exp dungeons and the cultural weapon exploit meant that a few people that the people that were aware of these exploits were able to get their hands on large amounts of gold easily. This probably skewed the distribution of wealth quite heavily and allows some players with large amounts of gold to be able to purchase things like these mats even at these ridiculous prices whereas most players can’t because they can’t farm as much gold now. Sure there are a few players out there that play the TP and make a fair amount of gold off that and that’s fair but the economy is probably very unbalanced because of the exploits in the early stages of the game.

As someone who is very close to getting my legendary, this recent surge in price of Charged Lodestones is a major kick in the nuts. Not more than a few weeks ago (October 10th according to gw2spidy), charged cores were 10s each. I didn’t buy them then because I was in the process of crafting my precursor, and didn’t know whether I would get Dusk or Dawn. I ended up getting Dawn a couple days ago after a total of about 120 exotic greatswords in the forge.

After checking the new prices of cores the excitement of just having crafted my Dawn was instantly choked. It would have cost 45g to craft 100 Charged Lodestones a few weeks ago, and now it would cost over 200g. And I only have 50g left after crafting my precursor. Go figure…

So what are my options? Run CoE explorable? Farm sparks and air elementals with all the bots when temple is active? And I thought getting my precursor was a pain in the butt. It seems as though everyone who didn’t capitalize on some exploit or speculating on the trading post must now pay 10 times the price for their components.

yeah i bought 20 charged lodestones when they were 50s each. only 20. i feel like such an idiot. I’m in the same boat. I only basically need a bit of karma, icy runestones and the charged lodestones. I hate how gold is the limiting factor.

Forget legendaries… it’s hard to make some of the exotics to even mildly look good. This drop rate and really drop rates (and rewards) in general need to be improved.

This might be a tangent but it would be nice for once to be rewarded for playing the game. WvW doesn’t reward you much, dungeons reward more than they used to but are still kind of “meh”, most DE’s barely award you anything. The list goes on. Charged lodestones is just one area that is just as tight as the rest of these systems.

Sidenote: Before anyone says “play to have fun”… i’ll be honest here: PvE is about gaining pixels and that’s what is “fun”. Sure the story might be fun… once… the puzzles might be fun a few times… but the rest of the time? I’ts pixels. Constantly making your own character look cool. THAT is fun. GW1 had this down.

I dunno who’s coming up with these loot tables but it’s barely making anyone want to do any DEs other than Plinx+Broodmother and Tunnels. I really want to do some other DEs but nobody wants to actually do any of them. And I’m on a fairly populated server.

Loot drops need to be reassessed throughout the game, not just lodestones. The optimistic side of me wants to think that the Ascent to Madness is a testing ground for some of these changes. Even that is still stingy.

I love the idea of using tokens as trading for Lodestones. Alternatively up the rate in chests in a dungeon. I also wish that a designer could respond to some of these crafting threads. In BLTC and Dungeons subforums, I see a lot more designer activity whereas crafting seems kind of dead.

I realize that they might be busy fixing the stuff, but a little bit of feedback helps calm the number of these threads regarding drop rates, precursor issues, and mystic forge issues. Especially since the tone of this thread is starting to go to “angry” instead of “oh they’re working on it”. I’d wait and see what they do within the next month, though.

Arkis one of the devs posted not long ago that they are making changes to loot tables for both dungeons and world bosses/events. Whether that means more rare materials, exotics, unique exotics is anyone’s guess, but they said they were trying to get it in for Halloween but it barely didn’t make the time cut. I’d expect to see it on the November content update.

I agree about the loot in general. It’s incredibly bad and unrewarding, which means it’s not fun. It needs to be fixed badly. My character is nothing more than a glorified Garbage Collector, because that’s all that ever drops: pure trash.

On the Lodestone front, previously I was posting my dislike for this in sympathy to the rest of you, since I am personally not working towards Sunrise myself, but I can certainly recognize how busted this is when it costs 4x more than it did two days ago.

However, now the same exact thing is happening with Onyx cores/lodestones, they have doubled in price in a single day. So now that 100g grind for lodestones for Twlight just became 200g and will probably be up to 300-400g just like Charged cores/lodestones before long.

I don’t currently have enough money to buy what I need, especially at 2g each or more.

Added on top of the absurd RNG grind for the precursors (since buying one from the Godskull exploiters leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and would require a massive Garbage Grind to raise the money, and there’s no reason Dusk won’t be at 600g by the time I have 400g anyway), this crap is absurd.

It’s a constantly receding goal post that is impossible to meet, even with insane hardcore grinding. Oh you need this material, well it’s going to cost you 100g, but by the time you have 100g it’s now 400g. By the time you get 400g it’ll probably be 600g and so on.

These designs are the opposite of fun: tedious, annoying, and infuriating.

psilosopher.5807:

Arkis one of the devs posted not long ago that they are making changes to loot tables for both dungeons and world bosses/events. Whether that means more rare materials, exotics, unique exotics is anyone’s guess, but they said they were trying to get it in for Halloween but it barely didn’t make the time cut. I’d expect to see it on the November content update.

Can you post a link to the actual post or thread for this? I’d like to read it thanks!