Guild Wars 2

Hi! my girlfriend decided to craft her Colossus in the mystic forge because i get my “The Hunter” with 800 rares and some exo for a total of 150 gold coin. but her experiment seems to be very unluky: at the moment 2828 rares and 132 exos are gone and she have found only the same three pearl exo hammer, 5 magmaton, 3 punisher and a few iron fist.

so i know that the Forge can be a little tricky and expensive sometimes, but there’s something in my mind: i see other posts with people complaining about their terrible experiment with Forge trying to get The Colossus, and one in particular that found it after 2784 rares.

so if anyone can tell me how he found his colossus in the mystic forge and in what date, i will see if there’s some problem with that particular precursor or something like that

ty all!

Its all completely random, there is no rhyme or reason to the MF. Just have to keep trying unless you want to save the gold to buy it.

Gizmoitus.7241:

Its all completely random, there is no rhyme or reason to the MF. Just have to keep trying unless you want to save the gold to buy it.

you don’t undestand my question…. i want to know how many tries have made other people to craft the colossus in order to know if there’s something wrong with that particular… i don’t need answers like "wrong idea use the forge " but data and numbers.

I chucked in 16 valkyrie krait warhammers, the crafted ones. Came out with the precursor, now I’m on my way to getting Jugg.

If only silver doubloons were less impossible to farm..!

3 rounds with exotic hammers from dungeon tokens netted me it…. Of course a hurricane knocked out my power for a week about 1 hr later….

Angus.7460:

I chucked in 16 valkyrie krait warhammers, the crafted ones. Came out with the precursor, now I’m on my way to getting Jugg.

If only silver doubloons were less impossible to farm..!

k ty because at the moment the tries have reached something like 3200 rares and nothing yet

Powerbruce.6710:

Angus.7460:

I chucked in 16 valkyrie krait warhammers, the crafted ones. Came out with the precursor, now I’m on my way to getting Jugg.

If only silver doubloons were less impossible to farm..!

k ty because at the moment the tries have reached something like 3200 rares and nothing yet

RNG is RNG, I got very very lucky. I’d not be in with a chance of making a legendary without said luck.

1600+ rares and 50+ exotics and 0 colossus so far, while a guild got precursor bow in 150 rares and another guildie got 3 sparks in 500 rares.

Gotte love RNG

The colossus isn’t bugged, nor is getting any legendary precursor from the mystic forge. There is a reason why it’s called the mystic toilet; as many have stated above, RNG is RNG, and just because you’ve had a round of bad luck doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong. I’m sorry to sound so harsh but it’s silly to ask the forums for help when there’s nothing to help you with.

In my opinion, it isn’t worth forging for a precursor, since many people end up spending more gold that would cost to just buy it from the TP.

I’m on a streak of ~4500 rares into the forge without a precursor. When you’re fishing for something with a ~0.2% chance of showing up it can take a really long time for it to show up.

I threw in 4 rares while trying to get my daily achievement by doing the MF crafting bit and got the colossus. I was not even trying to forge a precursor. Just wanted my daily. Ain’t RNG a kitten!

Less “rares” and more named exotics should return better results.

Flippetized.2657:

Less “rares” and more named exotics should return better results.

Named exotics have the same chance as generic exotics. Additionally, using rares is more expensive than exotics unless you are crafting them with materials and don’t want to sell your materials.

Additionally, you have a higher chance of getting a precursor with higher level items. This does not mean you have an artificially higher chance, it’s quite literally rng. When you roll 4 items in the MF, there is a chance of them leveling up and not leveling up. The chance of items not leveling up gives you a lower chance of getting a precursor because now there are lower level exotics in the pool of possible outcomes. If you’re rolling with all level 80 items, you’re going to get an 80 item back, so the possible outcome pool has less items, therefore a higher chance of getting a precursor.

Do the math, it’s ~20% upgrade chance. Ignoring the RNG on getting a precursor, you need ~16 rares (5 rolls, but every 4 gives you a free 5th) to get 1 exotic. Rares are usually 20s per the cheapest. Exotics are usually 1g per the cheapest. 16 × 0.2g = 3.2g > 1g

Of course my tp prices vary and may be wrong for your exact item, I’m just going off of rounded numbers through my studies.

Esplen.3940:

Flippetized.2657:

Less “rares” and more named exotics should return better results.

Named exotics have the same chance as generic exotics. Additionally, using rares is more expensive than exotics unless you are crafting them with materials and don’t want to sell your materials.

Additionally, you have a higher chance of getting a precursor with higher level items. This does not mean you have an artificially higher chance, it’s quite literally rng. When you roll 4 items in the MF, there is a chance of them leveling up and not leveling up. The chance of items not leveling up gives you a lower chance of getting a precursor because now there are lower level exotics in the pool of possible outcomes. If you’re rolling with all level 80 items, you’re going to get an 80 item back, so the possible outcome pool has less items, therefore a higher chance of getting a precursor.

Do the math, it’s ~20% upgrade chance. Ignoring the RNG on getting a precursor, you need ~16 rares (5 rolls, but every 4 gives you a free 5th) to get 1 exotic. Rares are usually 20s per the cheapest. Exotics are usually 1g per the cheapest. 16 × 0.2g = 3.2g > 1g

Of course my tp prices vary and may be wrong for your exact item, I’m just going off of rounded numbers through my studies.

in your math there’s a little errorXD 3.2 gold is a good result calculating on rares, but if u wanna try using exos, for one try u need 4 exo per 1 gold each, so 4 gold the’s more than what we pay for rares (at the moment i don’t care about the exos that in one case can be sold and in the other can be used for another try)

Yes, rares are definately the way to go. 1 round of rares is ~1g. You need ~5 rounds to get an exotic, though the 5th one is for “free”, as you get at least a rare in return for your first 4 tries. That makes 4g per exotic. Considering how most exotics are ~2g, using rares will give you back 50% of the money spent, as long as you sell all exos on TP.

Regarding The Colossus, there is nothing to it, except that your gf is unlucky. That’s RnG for you. Some win, some lose. She’ll get it eventually.

Garrisyl.7402:

She’ll get it eventually.

Not necessarily.

Don’t make it sound as if you get a granted exotic every 5 tries with rares, it may get people confused. Actually, that’s quite optimistic…

Powerbruce.6710:

Esplen.3940:

Flippetized.2657:

Less “rares” and more named exotics should return better results.

Named exotics have the same chance as generic exotics. Additionally, using rares is more expensive than exotics unless you are crafting them with materials and don’t want to sell your materials.

Additionally, you have a higher chance of getting a precursor with higher level items. This does not mean you have an artificially higher chance, it’s quite literally rng. When you roll 4 items in the MF, there is a chance of them leveling up and not leveling up. The chance of items not leveling up gives you a lower chance of getting a precursor because now there are lower level exotics in the pool of possible outcomes. If you’re rolling with all level 80 items, you’re going to get an 80 item back, so the possible outcome pool has less items, therefore a higher chance of getting a precursor.

Do the math, it’s ~20% upgrade chance. Ignoring the RNG on getting a precursor, you need ~16 rares (5 rolls, but every 4 gives you a free 5th) to get 1 exotic. Rares are usually 20s per the cheapest. Exotics are usually 1g per the cheapest. 16 × 0.2g = 3.2g > 1g

Of course my tp prices vary and may be wrong for your exact item, I’m just going off of rounded numbers through my studies.

in your math there’s a little errorXD 3.2 gold is a good result calculating on rares, but if u wanna try using exos, for one try u need 4 exo per 1 gold each, so 4 gold the’s more than what we pay for rares (at the moment i don’t care about the exos that in one case can be sold and in the other can be used for another try)

Ah yes, you’re right. I forgot. But of course this is statistical math and most people hate the RNG aspect of the MF, so it’s probably best to use Exo’s anyways, unless you’re patient.