Guild Wars 2

Heu guys, i am a newby in GW2 and i wonder if crafting is worth the hassle or if i am better of selling mats i come by to save money and buy stuff from the TP?
Atm i am trying to level leatherworker and Huntsman, and i must say that i find it a little tedius.

Right now? Sell all the iron you come across. The most recent patch has created a big demand on it, and the price has tripled. I would also take some time (or a for a few extra gold) and buy the gift of blades from the MF vendor. Just in case you wish to create the new backpiece in the future, you will have the recipe.

If you are leveling by exploring the zones, make sure you farm all the trees you see, that will help with your huntsman leveling.

True, a lot of people actually bought a lot of iron ore when the patch got open just so they would sell it now. Currently iron price is way higher than it’s ‘normal’ ammount.

(Kind of like a buy low, sell high system)

However to answer your question, crafting in general is very useful, both for ascended so you can do high level fractals (due to agony resistance) and other perks (high level cooks make a lot of money on their recepies and artificiers do pretty good stuff with magic find items if you’re interested in that stuff)

On the other hand, save your mets! Events that require certain ores (see how we’re commenting on iron ore being pricy now?) will push your profits. Also you just might want to craft something and it requires something that you have to pay high gold for.

You just never know what’s going to happen with materials. Some cheapest materials become the most expensive ones in a breaf moment!

TL/DR: Take your time. Watch the economy. Crafting is very useful! Hope it helped.

There would ALWAYS be items that you can craft that would earn you more gold than the cost of its ingredients put together. They are mostly in the 400-500 max crafting level category. The problem for most people is to find out which of these items are out there, which are not difficult to find actually.

Crafting right now is near useless. The only reason why you should be crafting is to make your own materials to gamble on the forge (and save money) and because it is a pre-requisite for end-game items that cost a ton (and is not appropriate for the average player).

The barrier to entry for crafting is very low, and as a result, crafting is not a good source of gold.

I suggest you sell off your materials and buy items from the gemstore. It is cheaper.

Vol.7601:

Crafting right now is near useless. The only reason why you should be crafting is to make your own materials to gamble on the forge (and save money) and because it is a pre-requisite for end-game items that cost a ton (and is not appropriate for the average player).

The barrier to entry for crafting is very low, and as a result, crafting is not a good source of gold.

I suggest you sell off your materials and buy items from the gemstore. It is cheaper.

I strongly disagree.

Just think about it, say you have some extra mats called no. 1 (I’m not going to name any examples, but this actually mostly counts towards exotic items), and some extra mats no. 2. ‘1’ is worth, say 1s each, and you have 20, and mats ‘2’ are worth around 5s, while you have 3 of those. So you could sell them and make 35s, OR you could combine them and make an item worth, say 50s (that’s around 50% more silver).

Of course, there are examples that roll with much bigger prices, say mats for exotic armor are usually worth around 1-2g, but crafted exotic gear is worth around 2-3+ gold.

Does it cost a bunch to level certain crafting up? YES. Does it pay off both in armor advantages for top tier gear and for financial gain? HELL YES.

I respect that everyone has an opinion, but I had to post mine countering yours, simply because I find it too wrong.

Is crafting worth it ?, Unless your crafting for yourself…. no.

Crafting prices are upside down, a crafted insignia may sell for 6-7 gold.
But the item needing the insignia, IE: weapon, would sell for around 2 gold.

In order to level at 500, you have to craft many inscriptions for items that sell for much less. Is this a way to pull gold from the economy? Then when you get to 500
the items you craft are soul bound, cost a lot , but can’t sell………

Glacial Singer.1573:

Is crafting worth it ?, Unless your crafting for yourself…. no.

Crafting prices are upside down, a crafted insignia may sell for 6-7 gold.
But the item needing the insignia, IE: weapon, would sell for around 2 gold.

So what? Many of the insignia are also crafted items, so if they are worth it to craft then that implies that crafting is worth it.

Just because some or even most things are not worth it to craft doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING is not worth it to craft. People are just too lazy to find out which are the worthy items to craft by pointing their browsers to gw2spidy. Let me save you the effort by providing a link:

http://www.gw2spidy.com/crafting/5

….so many profitable items to craft.

Coenraad.8302:

Heu guys, i am a newby in GW2 and i wonder if crafting is worth the hassle or if i am better of selling mats i come by to save money and buy stuff from the TP?
Atm i am trying to level leatherworker and Huntsman, and i must say that i find it a little tedius.

After reading all the comments, something is missing.

If you plan on trying to craft/forge a Legendary weapon, you are doing to need some crafting disciplines at 400 in order to craft certain items.
So if you wanted to do that, you won’t really have a choice. (unless you get rich and buy one outright)

I would say that crafting, generally, isn’t worth it.

You can easily (and cheaply) obtain decent armor from the TP for much less than the cost to craft it.

Once you’re level 80, I’d recommend using the Exotic armor vendors in Orr to get armor in exchange for Karma that you’ve earned. There’s not much use for Karma otherwise.

The only potential reason for wanting to level crafting would be as someone mentioned, if you want a Legendary.

I got Leatherworker to 500, but I’m honestly debating whether or not I really want to craft Ascended armor.

I have a sinking feeling that they’ll probably introduce Legendary armor as soon as I do.

So why would I grind for Ascended now, when there’s the potential for Legendary in the future? I could just save all my gold and materials.

Just look at Beigarth’s Knight Insignia right now (see attached picture for proof since value changes over time), you earn more than 19g in profit for EACH insignia you craft.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/recipe/7896

The only ingredient that you can’t buy are 5 Dark matter orbs for each insignia. But still 19g in profit per insignia is a lot. If you want to go for just buy orders for instant gold, there are 8 of them in the buy list which you can earn a profit of about 28.5g instantly without fear of other people undercutting your profits.

If I can find many such opportunities, I don’t understand how people can say crafting is not worth it. It is a gold sink only if you don’t use your brains or are too lazy to search for opportunities. Otherwise crafting is an investment which can be used to earn back many times the amount of gold that you have used to level it up, provided you are not too lazy.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Just look at Beigarth’s Knight Insignia right now (see attached picture for proof since value changes over time), you earn more than 19g in profit for EACH insignia you craft.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/recipe/7896

The only ingredient that you can’t buy are 5 Dark matter orbs for each insignia. But still 19g in profit per insignia is a lot. If you want to go for just buy orders for instant gold, there are 8 of them in the buy list which you can earn a profit of about 28.5g instantly without fear of other people undercutting your profits.

If I can find many such opportunities, I don’t understand how people can say crafting is not worth it.

And… How many Exotics do you have to salvage for 5 Dark Matter, if you do not use the Perfect Salvage Kit (available now at the Black Lion Trading Company <- Evon paid me to say that)?

That cost eats into the “19g” profit.
I used a Perfect Salvage Kit and salvaged all the exotics (worth less than 2g, the more expensive ones I sold on the TP) that I crafted on the way from 400 to 500 and only got like 17 Dark Matter.

And, in all honesty, the rest of that profit is likely due to Damask being time-gated.

You can only craft one per day. Insignias require 3.

TL;DR: At the end of the day, you may be making 13g every 3 days…
I look at that and think “Wow. I could have just given ANet $2 and converted gems to 13g.”

Minos.5168:

DarkSpirit.7046:

Just look at Beigarth’s Knight Insignia right now (see attached picture for proof since value changes over time), you earn more than 19g in profit for EACH insignia you craft.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/recipe/7896

The only ingredient that you can’t buy are 5 Dark matter orbs for each insignia. But still 19g in profit per insignia is a lot. If you want to go for just buy orders for instant gold, there are 8 of them in the buy list which you can earn a profit of about 28.5g instantly without fear of other people undercutting your profits.

If I can find many such opportunities, I don’t understand how people can say crafting is not worth it.

And… How many Exotics do you have to salvage for 5 Dark Matter, if you do not use the Perfect Salvage Kit (available now at the Black Lion Trading Company <- Evon paid me to say that)?

That cost eats into the “19g” profit.
I used a Perfect Salvage Kit and salvaged all the exotics (worth less than 2g, the more expensive ones I sold on the TP) that I crafted on the way from 400 to 500 and only got like 17 Dark Matter.

And, in all honesty, the rest of that profit is likely due to Damask being time-gated.

You can only craft one per day. Insignias require 3.

TL;DR: At the end of the day, you may be making 13g every 3 days…
I look at that and think “Wow. I could have just given ANet $2 and converted gems to 13g.”

There are lots of exotics in the TP right now that are worth more in value, when salvaged by a Black Lion Salvage kit considering the price of their upgrade, their chance of ectos, and the chance of obtaining an insignia/inscription. Salvaging these exotics with BLSK to obtain their upgrades + chance of insignia/inscription, already earn me a small profit, even considering the price of BLSK nowadays. The chance of obtaining ectos and dark matter is just extra gravy.

Again, if you use your brains and you search well, you can usually find what you need to make a profit. I have shared this before:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Globs-of-Dark-Matter-1/first#post3425710

As far as the Beigarth’s Knight Insignia above, you can always keep a stock of Damask over a period of several days. Damask has been worth more than its ingredients taken together to craft it ever since the ascended armor crafting release and it seems that trend would continue to be profitable for a long while.

The fact that you can always earn gold by selling gems bought with real money, does not imply that crafting is not profitable. There are so many craft-able items that are worth more than the ingredients that it takes to make them, so you can earn ALOT of profit just by exploiting as many of them as you want to.

There are still a bunch that are worth more to salvage with master kits… presuming you get them through buy orders. I currently have 3 stacks of dark matter doing this (and I stopped a little while ago). I’m saving them in case they are needed for precursor crafting in the future (which I believe they will be and exotics will go up in price then).

Crafting is worth it. It gives you access to ascended/legendary items + items you can craft for a profit/save you $ vs buying off of the TP.

Thanks for all the answers. So if i understand it right it is most usefull for legendaries? How hard are those to make for a regular but not hardcore player?

Atm i am selling all my iron. Made 10g of that alone yesterday.

Coenraad.8302:

Thanks for all the answers. So if i understand it right it is most usefull for legendaries? How hard are those to make for a regular but not hardcore player?

Atm i am selling all my iron. Made 10g of that alone yesterday.

Well they aren’t easy even for hardcore players, so don’t expect it to be a walk in the park It requires a lot of time, a lot of gold and a lot of luck (I’m talking about precursors – exotic items that are needed to make legendaries, but are extremely rare and very expensive, around 400-1000gold worth).

I’m happy that we helped at least a little. ^^

I have not leveled any of my crafting. Is it used to get ascended armor? Like do i use my dungeon armor set and infuse it through crafting?

RavenRecoil.6103:

I have not leveled any of my crafting. Is it used to get ascended armor? Like do i use my dungeon armor set and infuse it through crafting?

Not at all… you’ll be making entirely new armor.

Here is a guide on what you need:

http://dulfy.net/2013/12/12/gw2-ascended-armor-crafting-guide/

Dragonite comes from world bosses and keep lords.
Emp Frags come from Dung runs/camps/towers/jumping puzzles
Dark matter comes form salvaging exotics.

The Ascended Bolts/Ingots/Squares come from combining T2-5 mats to produce ascended materials which you can do one of each every day.

Ascended weapons are basically the same, but can require different materials (Spiritwood Planks).

Here is a cost breakdown for you for crafting to 500 as well:

http://www.gw2crafts.net/total.html

Crafting makes me all my money, however thats just my opinion and it’s done through researching markets, crafting the components I can’t buy cheaper, or putting buy orders for things that are being sold cheaper than it costs me to make them.

The markets I am finding most viable are very unexpected, however it depends how much and how fast you want to make money. I make consitent gold daily, with little to no loss. However I will never be a big player because I don’t want to have to park my harris at the TP all day.

However with a bit of research, the right crafts, and some common sense, it’s not a complete cop out.

only if you intend to craft ascended armors to yourself as you cant buy them (yet?)
all the exotics are cheaper to buy.

Nimshae.2743:

However with a bit of research, the right crafts, and some common sense, it’s not a complete cop out.

That is true, but because it is something that takes effort most people would not recognize crafting as being profitable, no matter how much proof we can provide. People are inherently lazy and would only recognize lazy paths to riches which crafting isn’t one of them.

Crafting can be worth it. You have to be selective. It’s not easy.
If you don’t want to get into it, I recommend refining the materials and selling them on the TP (refined usually will sell for around 5-10% more than what goes into it)
However, There are many things that are currently profitable to make, here are a few examples (I specifically chose high profit ones to make you salivate):
Minor Sigil of Bursting – 2 Thin Leather Section for 82c + Charged Fragment for 13s42c + 10 watchwork sprocket for 6s = costs 20s24c and sells for 88s84c (273.1% profit after tax)
Hunter’s Steel Imbued Inscription – 2 Steel Plated Dowel for 23s14c + 15 Claw for 4s80c = costs 27s94c and sells for 1g9s89c (234.3% profit after tax)
Thin Jerkin Panel – 10 Thin Leather Section for 20s50c + 2 Spool of Wool Thread for 32c = costs 4s42c and sells for 17s98c (245.8% profit after tax)

The highest percent profits I could find right now are probably Godskull Flintlock (2279.7% profit), Beaded Icon (1750.7% profit), Sentinel’s Elder Scepter (1172.2% profit)
of course, since these and the others are so high, it’s probably a fluke and they will go back down soon. I generally only make stuff if it’s within 20-100% profit (any lower and relisting may make it not profitable, any higher and it either wont sell or relisting may make it not profitable – because so many others will have found it and undercut me).