Guild Wars 2

So I had this thought after poking through the forums for awhile. A couple noteworthy points and why making them Account Bound would affect them.

• Pre-reqs are too expensive and being controlled by a select few people.

The exploiters would suffer due to not being able to move their product. Patch this in a stealthy manner for the most tears.

• Entitlement / Difficulty to Obtain

There’s a lot of people on both sides of the fence for this argument. So, making them BoA would solve both sides of this.

• The entitlement side feels they’re too difficult to obtain and that they’re missing out due to the cost of the item and luck of other people. If they were BoA, the cost is a non-issue and it would not be as competitive because it would be solely about the amount of effort poured into the mystic forge.

• The other point of this is that they will be more exclusive and more “legendary” feeling, short of actually having a story behind them. As it is right now, only Zommoros knows the story. This would mostly eliminate short-cutting to them by since you cannot simply buy the pre-req.

I would feel much better about the Legendary “grind” if it were this way. This is coming from someone who passed up their chance to buy their pre-req at 50g, vice 350g+, because of reasons currently unknown to me. Some of this may be jumbled and some ideas missed, but thoughts anyone?

So, how would you go about obtaining Legendary Precursors? Because at the moment, if we stuck to the current system, you would only be able to get them if you were very lucky. Which, if we think about the whole idea behind Legendary weapons, throughout fantasy stories and history, no one had a legendary weapon because of luck. They got them through hard work. Luck is already relied on enough with the Mystic Clovers. We don’t need to side further on luck.

The only way your system would work is if there was a way to buy them using a non-transferable currency, like Karma or Tokens. And we already have to use both those things to make parts for the Legendary anyway.

You come to the table with a lot of problems, but no solutions. Saying “make them account bound” isn’t a solution. If I put four swords into the mystic forge, and for some reason I don’t want Zap, and I get Zap? I’d be pissed. Because now I can’t sell it.

Yeah, making them account bound would likely anger more of the people who get them, without really helping anyone. Get Dusk but wanted Dawn? Too bad. Get one you can’t use as a boss drop or by combining different item types in the forge? Too bad. Already have Dawn, trying to get Dusk to make Eternity, get another Dawn instead? Too bad.

Meanwhile every single person who would rather just buy a precursor instead of having to deal with RNG is also suddenly out of luck.

That’s exactly my case and point. Legendaries would really be Legendary. It wouldn’t be “Oh well that guy is just a gold farmer/buyer and bought Precursor X.” People would actually RECOGNIZE their achievement and it would actually mean something.

I don’t have any love for the Godskull cheaters, so I think this is a great idea.

ChairGraveyard.2967:

I don’t have any love for the Godskull cheaters, so I think this is a great idea.

??? what does godskull have to do with the valid opposition made on this thread?

Hippocampus.8470:

Yeah, making them account bound would likely anger more of the people who get them, without really helping anyone. Get Dusk but wanted Dawn? Too bad. Get one you can’t use as a boss drop or by combining different item types in the forge? Too bad. Already have Dawn, trying to get Dusk to make Eternity, get another Dawn instead? Too bad.

Meanwhile every single person who would rather just buy a precursor instead of having to deal with RNG is also suddenly out of luck.

basically sums up why i wouldnt like this idea, not that it matters since i have the worst luck with the forge lol.

You can buy Zap for 200g go!!! You can get Quip for 135g!! go Oh wait Precursor = Dusk.

It really kind of shows how bad it is. Precursor topics all deal with 1 weapon Dusks price.

“OMG precursors have soared to over 400g.’

NO they havent if you take the average price of all the precursors its not over 400g.

Average price for precursors is 224g thats not even adding in the torch and the water weapons which would make it lower.

Precursor =/= Dusk dawn or the legend.

Ulquiorra.6903:

ChairGraveyard.2967:

I don’t have any love for the Godskull cheaters, so I think this is a great idea.

what does godskull have to do with the valid opposition made on this thread???

Didn’t you know? Anyone who has more than you in GW2 must have gotten it through the Godskull exploit. There’s just no other explanation at all!

Hippocampus.8470:

Ulquiorra.6903:

ChairGraveyard.2967:

I don’t have any love for the Godskull cheaters, so I think this is a great idea.

what does godskull have to do with the valid opposition made on this thread???

Didn’t you know? Anyone who has more than you in GW2 must have gotten it through the Godskull exploit. There’s just no other explanation at all!

Honestly I think people that keep saying this don’t even know the story or read the article they are going off hearsay even though you can find it on the internet.

1 guy on guru posted saying he found a way to make it higher chance to obtain dusk. It worked more often getting dusk than dawn.

It got fixed he bought all the dusks (which at the time was only 9 on the tp) He made alot of gold. Now Im sure there have been more then 9 dusks created since then which was like a month ago.

I want the Dreamer, and its precursor has too went up in price =( I tried my luck at the forge today, got an Eibner Finn and a cleric’s useless trash of grawl slaying that was immediately salvaged into some useless sigil, some elder, and an ecto.

Actually the way I see it most people who have one are exploiters. I see the legendaries as a mark of shame. (granted not all exploited)
Because Anet chose to not crack down on bots, exploiters, goldfarming ect they opened the door of illegitimacy. This wasnt an epic toil but something gained due to a bug.
Or simply dumb luck- Sorry that is not legendary.
We all dont have the same ability to obtain this and we are not all equal.
Will I ever decide to get one? who knows but why bother I wont buy gold and I dont cheat.
Dont mean to hurt peoples feelings but following a couple with them and they teleported to events.

That’s kind of why I made this post. The few people I know with Legendaries borrowed heavily from others at opportune moments (when Pre-reqs were low). I’m going to be on the positive side and assume that’s how most everyone else got their own, but realistically we know that isn’t the case.

If they were BoA, sure the people can still buy gold to buy stuff to toss in the forge, but luck and a sense of accomplishment still accompany that sucess.

Sarne.4528:

That’s exactly my case and point. Legendaries would really be Legendary. It wouldn’t be “Oh well that guy is just a gold farmer/buyer and bought Precursor X.” People would actually RECOGNIZE their achievement and it would actually mean something.

BUT IT’S NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT IF IT’S LUCK! ACHIEVEMENT IMPLIES YOU ACHIEVED SOMETHING THROUGH TRIAL AND HARD WORK!

Sorry for the all-caps, but it seems like that’s the only way to get through to you.

Narkosys.5173:

Actually the way I see it most people who have one are exploiters

Almost everyone who exploited were banned so if those with legendaries are still around, clearly they did not exploit. They got in early before Anet changed things up. That’s not exploiting; that’s being smart and dedicated.

Although Anet has put out some awesome content for this halloween event, thanks btw its awesome, I have almost completely given up hope, nearly a month has passed since things were being “monitored” nothing has changed other than ppl stopped raising the price ONLY because they know they are being watched. With no further comments on whats going on with this issue and the price already as high as it is probably no turning back now..maybe they are just hoping it goes away?? lulz..

Walkerz.5830:

Although Anet has put out some awesome content for this halloween event, thanks btw its awesome, I have almost completely given up hope, nearly a month has passed since things were being “monitored” nothing has changed other than ppl stopped raising the price ONLY because they know they are being watched. With no further comments on whats going on with this issue and the price already as high as it is probably no turning back now..maybe they are just hoping it goes away?? lulz..

Where do you people get this idea that people stopped raising the prices because they know they are being watched?

Please show me? There are Dusks and Legends that are listed at 400g you know that right. Actually click the item next time or stop just looking at the top valued item on the front page. Which is a reflection of the highest buy order.

Foe fire essence is like 500g or close to on the TP. you think the guy listing it is worried about Anet adjusting his price.

Speculation nothing more

Average price of precursor weapons is about 234g thats not even adding in the spear or the trident or the torch which would make it lower.

Sure they aren’t popular but it doesn’t change the fact that when you look at the whole picture which Arena net has to do as a company. It looks different than when you stop having on Dawn, Dusk, Legend tunnel vision when it comes to precursor prices.

misterducky.4876:

Sarne.4528:

That’s exactly my case and point. Legendaries would really be Legendary. It wouldn’t be “Oh well that guy is just a gold farmer/buyer and bought Precursor X.” People would actually RECOGNIZE their achievement and it would actually mean something.

BUT IT’S NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT IF IT’S LUCK! ACHIEVEMENT IMPLIES YOU ACHIEVED SOMETHING THROUGH TRIAL AND HARD WORK!

Sorry for the all-caps, but it seems like that’s the only way to get through to you.

You are wrong. It has all the aspect of the achievement and patience as a virtue required to complete it. But on top of that it also requires luck. That doesn’t subtract from the achievement list.

To tell you the truth I wouldn’t mind for the legendary if it had been even harder. To include such a riddiculously difficult solo task that would make people pay 800 dollars per week for new computer from the physical absuse making them envying the old system with the precursors.

“That’s exactly my case and point. Legendaries would really be Legendary. It wouldn’t be “Oh well that guy is just a gold farmer/buyer and bought Precursor X.” People would actually RECOGNIZE their achievement and it would actually mean something.”

Well if you can find enjoyment and the feeling of achieving anything due to pure luck then kudos to you. But I think the other 99% of the population wouldn’t agree.

i am a little disappointed in ANET for a very similar thing. i quit WoW because so much of the game revolved around randomness of loot and competition with other people. (H FoS trinket comes to mind). having something that requires time, dedication and effort is something to be revered and shown off (glitter glitter and rainbows). however being price gouged or playing the loot lottery is not my idea of fun. Those that got their precursor weapons early at the right time good for them. nothing wrong with being opportunistic long as its legitimate.